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Old 09-24-12 | 10:49 AM
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Small and light with acceptable power (AA or AAA batteries)

AA or AAA batteries so the light is easy to use on touring too. Usage would be about 1 hour fitness every day expect when touring. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-24-12 | 12:32 PM
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How about one of these?
https://affordableluxuryblog.com/2012...ry-flashlight/

Or something similar? I wrote that post planning to do a follow up on the handlebar clamp that company makes. The light has over two hours of run time on the high setting, and while touring you can easily take it off to use it for other things.
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Old 09-24-12 | 01:01 PM
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That's too long

These are what I've consireder so far:

Sigma Prava

Led Lenser P7
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Old 09-24-12 | 01:05 PM
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I have recently used a 200 lumen Pace PX-25. Very nice beam pattern. You should be able to get that hour of usage out of it with good rechargeables, but not a lot more,in my experience. The manufacturers specs say it goes for 5-6 hours, but I have not achieved that. As much as I like the light, I needed more burn time out of it so after trying a small variety of lights (including a 400 lumen Ultrafire using 18650 batteries), I invested in a brighter dedicated bike light.
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Old 09-24-12 | 03:50 PM
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One light I use and like is the Planet Bike 2W Blaze, which runs off 2 AAs. I have not tried it with NiMH batteries as it's lasted pretty long with regular alkaline batteries and even longer with Energizer Lithium 1.5 V batteries. I use it mainly in flash mode only switching to steady toward the end of a ride if it's getting really dark.
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Old 09-24-12 | 04:08 PM
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Depends on what you mean by acceptable. If you mean lighting up the road at night enough to see what's in front of you, you'd be replacing AA's or AAA's after every ride. If you just mean a "be seen" light there are tons of options that run off AA or AAA batteries.
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Old 09-24-12 | 06:21 PM
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Not cheap, but the Philips SafeRide is worth mentioning when considering a AA powered lighting. Peter White has product info and beam shots on his site: https://peterwhitecycles.com/philips-bat.asp
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Old 09-24-12 | 07:58 PM
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One light I use and like is the Planet Bike 2W Blaze, which runs off 2 AAs. I have not tried it with NiMH batteries as it's lasted pretty long with regular alkaline batteries and even longer with Energizer Lithium 1.5 V batteries. I use it mainly in flash mode only switching to steady toward the end of a ride if it's getting really dark.
these don't look half bad.

Planet Bike Blaze 1 Watt:



Planet Bike Blaze 2 Watt:



I think I can't get these in Europe though.

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Depends on what you mean by acceptable.
Check above. Something like that.
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Old 09-24-12 | 08:44 PM
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I have the the Planet Bike 2W and those pictures are very misleading. Even with new batteries you see almost nothing at night (and it dims as the batteries drain). It was a good light 2-3 years ago but was never suitable for actually seeing the road in the dark. I'd get a minimum of 200 lumens and preferably 350+. I'm going to get the 500 lumen Lenzyne Super Drive XL. It uses rechargeable 18650 batteries. Extra batteries can be purchased for $5-10 each online to extend the run time indefinitely. The power required to create 200+ lumens of light make disposable batteries cost prohibitive.
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Old 09-24-12 | 09:36 PM
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I have the the Planet Bike 2W and those pictures are very misleading. Even with new batteries you see almost nothing at night (and it dims as the batteries drain). It was a good light 2-3 years ago but was never suitable for actually seeing the road in the dark. I'd get a minimum of 200 lumens and preferably 350+. I'm going to get the 500 lumen Lenzyne Super Drive XL. It uses rechargeable 18650 batteries. Extra batteries can be purchased for $5-10 each online to extend the run time indefinitely. The power required to create 200+ lumens of light make disposable batteries cost prohibitive.
I don't know if these are same lights since they didn't have "XL" in the name, but these pictures are from the 2011 I think:

Mini Drive:



Power Drive:



Super Drive:



I would never need the power of Super Drive and most likely Power Drive would be overkill too. Mini Drive would be close to what I'm looking for.

How does the Macro and Micro Drives compare to these? Macro and Micro doesn't have removable battery, but for example Macro is 30$ less than Power plus it is 50g lighter and the battery lasts almost twice as long. Power has only 25-50 more lumens in constant modes if I read the specs right. So in my eyes Macro is better or am I missing something?
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Old 09-24-12 | 10:23 PM
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Here's some stats for you. The new "XL versions of these lights have 50 more lumens and a regulated power supply (so the light doesn't dim as the battery drains.) Take the photos with a grain salt, I don't think they reflect what they look like in real world conditions. I would personally recommend getting a minimum of 200 lumens. The nice thing about having more light is you can run it on the medium or low setting if you find it too bright and extend the battery life. The Macro and Micro use a non-replaceable battery, once they drain you're out of luck until you can recharge them.

  • Lezyne Super Drive: 450/300/150 lumens, 1.5/2.5/4 hours runtime, 18650 battery, $110 list
  • Lezyne Power Drive: 300/200/100 lumens, 2/3/5.5 hours runtime, 18650 battery, $90 list
  • Lezyne Mini Drive: 150/100/50 lumens, 1/1.5/3 hours runtime, CR123 battery, $70 list

https://www.lezyne.com/media-main/ent...kansas-cyclist

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Old 09-25-12 | 12:52 AM
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PB 2w was mentioned, I have the 1w, it seems OK, obviously 2X the battery life,
because the wattage load is halved..
Spaninga taillights for fender mounting are good.. 2AAA batteries ..

but the B&M toplight Rack mount is nice & bright, and 2 of the LEDs face sideways
so arc of 180+ visible.. 2 AA powers it for a long time..
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Old 09-25-12 | 05:48 AM
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AA or AAA batteries so the light is easy to use on touring too. Usage would be about 1 hour fitness every day expect when touring. Any suggestions?
I have switched all my lights over to USB rechargeable and would never go back to replacing batteries.

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Old 09-25-12 | 05:51 AM
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I have switched all my lights over to USB rechargeable and would never go back to replacing batteries.

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After reading the comments I might do the same
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Old 09-25-12 | 06:14 AM
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https://cycleseven.org/hope-vision-1-...t-light-review

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AA or AAA batteries so the light is easy to use on touring too.
Why not dynohub powered?
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Old 09-25-12 | 07:45 AM
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Why not dynohub powered?
I don't like wires and the light must be easy to take on and off.

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you are missing the indisputable convenience of never worrying
if your battery has enough power left to get you home..
or the charge-cycle life of the battery going past taking a new charge

there is a handlebar mounted light wired to the hub,
that un plugs at the hub and comes off at the bars.
so can be taken off the bike.. quickly.
planet bike [LED], or Shimano, (halogen-bulb), offer them.

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Any information about the charging time of Lezyne Super Drive XL, Power Drive XL and Mini Drive XL? I'm most interested in Mini Drive XL at the moment.
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Old 09-28-12 | 08:39 AM
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I have the the Planet Bike 2W and those pictures are very misleading. Even with new batteries you see almost nothing at night (and it dims as the batteries drain). It was a good light 2-3 years ago but was never suitable for actually seeing the road in the dark. I'd get a minimum of 200 lumens and preferably 350+. I'm going to get the 500 lumen Lenzyne Super Drive XL. It uses rechargeable 18650 batteries. Extra batteries can be purchased for $5-10 each online to extend the run time indefinitely. The power required to create 200+ lumens of light make disposable batteries cost prohibitive.
I guess they can be misleading, but they seem fairly representative to me of what I see using the Blaze headlights. I have both the 1W and 2W Blaze lights, as well as a new Expilion 700, an old 700 lumen HID light, and a number of others. I consider the Blaze lights to be just adequate for road riding at night in a pinch. I'll take one on a late afternoon ride where the bright flashing mode helps with conspicuity as the sun goes down... and if I'm late getting home, the steady beam provides sufficient light to ride by. For a dedicated night riding light, look for something much brighter...

Look at the other photos in that extensive comparison to give a better idea...https://www.modernbike.com/light-comp...singleshotplus
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Old 09-28-12 | 01:10 PM
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AA or AAA batteries so the light is easy to use on touring too. Usage would be about 1 hour fitness every day expect when touring. Any suggestions?
While touring I assume you'll be buying alkaline batteries rather than bringing spares with you -- so you won't be doing rechargeables?

In that case, whatever you get, I suggest something with AAs rather than AAAs. I suggest this because the cost between the two is roughly the same, but AAs contain about 2.5x the energy as AAAs, which translates to either 2.5x the runtime or 2.5x times the light or some combination thereof.

If you are bringing your batteries with you and not buying and discarding them as you go, I'd just suggest a light that takes 18650 or 26550 rechargeable batteries -- you'll save a lot of money and they're a good deal more convenient than the AAs or AAAs would be.
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If you are willing to look at USB chargeable lights, you should definitely check out The Cygolite Expilion lights. I have the 350 lumen one and its insanely bright with multiple levels of adjustment, you can swap the battery with extras on longer rides, and water resistant. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s00_i00

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  • Three hours on high
  • Six hours on medium
  • 13.5 hours on low
  • 24 hours on flash

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I've pretty much settled on the Cygolite Expilion/Pace line after a bit of experimentation with some flashlights and a Niterider. Not cheap, but not the most expensive option either. Plenty bright, good runtime and easily swappable batteries. I originally bought a Pace 200 and just upgraded to a 400. Ordered a helmet mount for the 200 the other day.

Oh, and it appears that the difference between the Expilion and Pace is just marketing. The Pace seems to be the version branded for sale through Performance and Nashbar. Some of the lumen ratings between the lines are slightly different, but the spare parts are identical.
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