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Old 10-29-12 | 09:35 PM
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Phillips SafeRide Dual Beam 800lm?

Trying to locate a dealer in the USA and find out what the price is in USD. I noticed that the subject line should say ActiveRide rather than SafeRide.
https://www.mea.philips.com/c/bicycle...ar800dbx1/prd/


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Old 10-29-12 | 09:58 PM
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Here's a starting point - https://www.philipsbikelight.com/where-to-buy. I ordered one from Amazon, it should be here this week. There was one place much cheaper but I was leary about buying from them. I like Amazon's return policy if it doesn't work out like I hope.
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Originally Posted by Lars Halstrom
Trying to locate a dealer in the USA and find out what the price is in USD.
https://www.mea.philips.com/c/bicycle...ar800dbx1/prd/


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You do realize that the link is set to 'Middle East/Africa', don't you? The product that you're inquiring about may not even be available in the States at all. For some reason, the U.S. is like the last major market to get any of the Philips bike lighting stuff- I'm not even sure if their tail light can be had domestically yet.
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Old 10-30-12 | 07:57 AM
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The one I linked to is a new 800 lumen model. They had no US stores to link to it when I was on their website. MTBR had a good review of the one you linked to but they said it could be a little stronger in 2011.

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It looks very good but the reviews on Amazon for the previous model say the battery life is only 50 minutes on high. My commute is longer than that sometimes (if there are headwinds). I don't really think I'd buy a light with a battery life of less than an hour. For a light of this type with a separate battery (as opposed to torches) I want 2+ hours.
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Old 10-30-12 | 09:34 AM
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This MTBR review tested it at 2 hours runtime on high output.
https://reviews.mtbr.com/philips-safe...ights-shootout

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It looks very good but the reviews on Amazon for the previous model say the battery life is only 50 minutes on high. My commute is longer than that sometimes (if there are headwinds). I don't really think I'd buy a light with a battery life of less than an hour. For a light of this type with a separate battery (as opposed to torches) I want 2+ hours.
There is a thread around here that brought up the run time of the Philips light. Apparently, there was a bad batch initially that only got less than an hour on high. Once the poster who was having issues became aware of this and contacted customer service and given a new unit, he's been rather pleased.
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Cool. Now Amazon (or someone in the US) needs to get the 800lm model...
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One difference I see between the SafeRide light and the ActiveRide light is that the ActiveRide light has an external wire coming out of it, suggesting an external power source. However, their webpage has no documentation of that. No statements of how many cells in it and no statements of any change in size of the ActiveRide light housing. It could be a recharge wire too I suppose.
https://www.philips.co.uk/c/front%20b...ONSUMER%3Dtrue

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The SafeRide says it uses NiMH batteries. I don't particularly like that.
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I agree. Their website has very limited amount of info or pictures on their newest lights. When I took their website customer survey, I pointed that out to them.

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Philips seems to list their lights, for the most part, in lux rather than lumens. I'm not certain what the difference is between the Saferide and Activeride other than the aforementioned cable. Both are listed with a 5500 k light designation (for color? clarity?)

XXcycle has the Saferide 80 lux for $108
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The SafeRide says it uses NiMH batteries. I don't particularly like that.
Why is that? My oldest NiMH rechargables are 15 years old and still have 70% capacity (discontinued Sony AAs). I don't have any Lithium batteries that have stood up that well yet.
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Why is that? My oldest NiMH rechargables are 15 years old and still have 70% capacity (discontinued Sony AAs). I don't have any Lithium batteries that have stood up that well yet.
You're having way better luck than I am. I've thrown away more than half the NiMH AAs that I've bought, and most have been pretty respectable brands. Lithiums seem to stand up to long term storage much better than NiMH. I wind up leaving batteries on the shelf for long periods of time and that seems to destroy NiMH.
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You're having way better luck than I am. I've thrown away more than half the NiMH AAs that I've bought, and most have been pretty respectable brands. Lithiums seem to stand up to long term storage much better than NiMH. I wind up leaving batteries on the shelf for long periods of time and that seems to destroy NiMH.
Yeah - even lithium batteries like to be topped up every couple months though. It keeps them above their minimum required safe voltage level. Once the cells drop below 2.6 V its impossible for the average consumer to recover them.

The worst performing NiMH batteries hit the market when companies started to compete in a 'most capacity' contest. The lower capacity stuff lasted a lot longer but ..... was taken off the market when consumers scrambled for the newest high capacity versions.

Have you tried the Imedion or Enloops yourself? They seem to be OK in the LED lights I have that'll take AAs or AAAs. In fact, I'm using 10 of them (2100mA) to run a 10 watt LED P7 headlight and by inputting 12V can get about a week of 20 minute commutes out of that. I do use Lipos, but mostly as a single source for high drain lighting applications requiring 40 to 100 watts of power.
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bike24.com has more information about this light on their website (https://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=...0,5,66;mid=251). The external battery pack has interesting design that I've never seen before: the cells appear to wrap around the bike frame or whatever you mount it on.

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One difference I see between the SafeRide light and the ActiveRide light is that the ActiveRide light has an external wire coming out of it, suggesting an external power source. However, their webpage has no documentation of that. No statements of how many cells in it and no statements of any change in size of the ActiveRide light housing. It could be a recharge wire too I suppose.
https://www.philips.co.uk/c/front%20b...ONSUMER%3Dtrue

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That's now over $300 USD?

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