Mirrors
#26
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I just found my old Third eye mirror. Surprisingly I found a way to attach it to my helmet visor. I might have to use tape to keep it from falling off but the position is almost perfect. Not as wide a FOV as the Take a LOOK but the trade off is that it blends perfectly with my helmet since my helmet is black and so is the Third eye. . Next time I go out I should be able to see which I like the most but the Third eye wins the "Less Geeky" award hands down.
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FWIW, There's a Take-a-look "Compact" model which is shorter has a smaller mirror, which is what I now use.
https://www.pacelineproducts.com/Cate...k_Mirrors.aspx
https://www.pacelineproducts.com/Cate...k_Mirrors.aspx
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I completed a ride last weekend using the Third eye ( glasses mount ) mirror but with the mirror mounted to my helmet visor. I used a piece of electrical tape to keep it from falling off. Pretty much the perfect position the only problem was vibration. Not really the mirror's fault because the visor is somewhat flimsy. I might be able to eliminate most of the vibration using some soft foam and some tape to sure up the visor. Crossing my fingers hoping this will work.
The problem for me is that I wear prescription glasses. If I'm going to use a helmet mirror or a mirror mounted to my glasses the mirror has to be in the upper left corner but not out of range of my ( corrected ) vision as I'm looking through my glasses. There in lies the problem. People who wear glasses automatically have a limited FOV. Dialing in the right position is a real PITA.
The problem for me is that I wear prescription glasses. If I'm going to use a helmet mirror or a mirror mounted to my glasses the mirror has to be in the upper left corner but not out of range of my ( corrected ) vision as I'm looking through my glasses. There in lies the problem. People who wear glasses automatically have a limited FOV. Dialing in the right position is a real PITA.
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I ended up returning my Italian Road Bike Mirror recently. The view is more like a the left side view mirror in a car (i.e., it's not a rear view mirror). But because it uses a convex (or is it concave?) mirror you can't see much past about 1/2 block back unless you stare at it. It's fine for one thing - riding on a shoulder or bike lane and keeping track of cars passing you. It's not hard to install but I had to rotate my bars forward quite a bit which placed my drops is a less usable position (plus I had to reposition my hoods.) It might be fine in a quiet rural setting but I found it nearly useless for Los Angeles. If you buy it on ebay the vendor has a 30 day return policy and it only costs you return shipping to try it out.
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For many of the reasons stated in this thread, I wasn't happy with the models of eyeglass-mount mirrors available, so I made my own. Here's a photo for you to copy to make one for yourself. Or check my signature below.
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At a recent swap meet (Harper college, Chicago burbs) a vendor was selling very similar home grown design using beer bottle caps for the mirror holder. Very cool.
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I always applaud any effort to DIY. Just keep in mind that with the mirror so far away from your head your ( rear ) FOV is going to be very small. When dealing with mirrors like this there will always have to be a compromise between the following; FOV, position, useability and geek factor. Almost nothing will be perfect. I can deal with limited FOV ( to the rear ) as long as the mirror doesn't block my forward FOV too much. "Geek Factor" is the last thing I worry about but is still a consideration.
On my last ride ( rural country roads ) the mirror gave me advance warning of approaching traffic before I could hear them. Mirrors work as long as the road is not too curvy, the elevation is fairly stable and you have good line-of-sight. If you're flying down a section of road that is curvy/rolling hills and you're riding at speed ( > 20mph ), it is still going to be very hard to keep track of what is approaching from the rear. The more attention you have to give to what's in front of you the harder it is to monitor the rear.
I don't know how people can discern details of approaching rear traffic with these mirrors. With my head constantly moving ( the faster I go ) getting a target lock on rearward approaching traffic is not always easy. Usually if I can make out a pair of headlights or the front of a car I'm happy. I don't worry about the details. Too much potential danger in front of me ( road debris, pot holes, cars, people...etc ) to be spending too much time gazing into a rear-view mirror.
On my last ride ( rural country roads ) the mirror gave me advance warning of approaching traffic before I could hear them. Mirrors work as long as the road is not too curvy, the elevation is fairly stable and you have good line-of-sight. If you're flying down a section of road that is curvy/rolling hills and you're riding at speed ( > 20mph ), it is still going to be very hard to keep track of what is approaching from the rear. The more attention you have to give to what's in front of you the harder it is to monitor the rear.
I don't know how people can discern details of approaching rear traffic with these mirrors. With my head constantly moving ( the faster I go ) getting a target lock on rearward approaching traffic is not always easy. Usually if I can make out a pair of headlights or the front of a car I'm happy. I don't worry about the details. Too much potential danger in front of me ( road debris, pot holes, cars, people...etc ) to be spending too much time gazing into a rear-view mirror.
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With the Take-A-Look it's very easy to keep track of traffic behind you. It's the closest experience to a rear view car mirror I've ever experienced with bike mirrors. Part of my ride includes a short blast at 25+mph taking the lane on a busy street and the Take-A-Look works flawlessly in that scenario. Biggest downside is the geek factor. In probably 10k+ miles I can only think of one time the Take-A-Look blocked my view enough to cause an issue (and that was another cyclist pulling out from a cross street, not a car.)
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I have my Take-a-look mounting arm bent upward so the mirror is above the horizon unless I'm in the drops. Like a rear view mirror in a car, it's above my line of sight.
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I don't know how people can discern details of approaching rear traffic with these mirrors. With my head constantly moving ( the faster I go ) getting a target lock on rearward approaching traffic is not always easy. Usually if I can make out a pair of headlights or the front of a car I'm happy. I don't worry about the details. Too much potential danger in front of me ( road debris, pot holes, cars, people...etc ) to be spending too much time gazing into a rear-view mirror.
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Being blind in my right eye, I won't tolerate anything sharp near my left. That's why I use the cycleaware reflex.
It does get loose after a while, requiring more adjustments, but a very small zip-tie on the socket fixes it.
I tried the bar-end mirrors, but it was not feasible for freeway driving (checking the onramps as you pass).
It does get loose after a while, requiring more adjustments, but a very small zip-tie on the socket fixes it.
I tried the bar-end mirrors, but it was not feasible for freeway driving (checking the onramps as you pass).
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got my "take a look" original for helmet mount today. it is far better than my plastic third eye, which I was constantly having to re-adjust . the take a look has a bigger mirror and on the whole commute, did not have to readjust one time same commute, so no difference in variables, just have to get use to its larger size
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I have the take-a-look and don't know how I ever did without it. I don't even have to move my head, just my eyes, it is high quaility, and the field of view is perfect. One of the best investments I ever made.
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For what it's worth I cannot ride on road without a mirror - on long rides I listen to music. I ride rural highways where there is little traffic. But, seeing vehicles coming I can tell if they have seen me and are moving over. Only one time have I noticed a van coming and did not move over. Luckily it was not going real fast - I bailed off into the gravel and the van stopped and driver was pleading his apology that he did not see me and he was looking off into field at deer... For that instance alone I owe my life to a $12 mirror on my shades. After breaking many of the "Third Eye" brand I use electric tape to hold them in place. Works pretty good -
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To the original list I'd add Zefal Dooback mirrors (left & right) that work well on folders.
On my main bike, I actually have a humongous mirror attached to the basket, whose original function was to show the aisle to flight attendants in some of the Boeing planes. Regarding the eyeglass/helmet mirrors, like another poster I am allergic to sharp objects sticking out next to my eyes. Also, I want my mirror to remain functional during rain, when I put a cover on my helmet. Along the same line, the mentioned bike-eye will not work with a rain cape or even a coat.
On my main bike, I actually have a humongous mirror attached to the basket, whose original function was to show the aisle to flight attendants in some of the Boeing planes. Regarding the eyeglass/helmet mirrors, like another poster I am allergic to sharp objects sticking out next to my eyes. Also, I want my mirror to remain functional during rain, when I put a cover on my helmet. Along the same line, the mentioned bike-eye will not work with a rain cape or even a coat.
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#42
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Better helmet mounted mirror ... https://efficientvelo.com/products/safe-zone.html
love it, and feel naked without it.
no sharp edges means it's less likely to slice my face open, if i crash.
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A take-a-look mirror user here too.
I mount it on my spectacles. I don't really mind taking it on and off before and after commutes. The extra weight doesn't affect me either.
My only trouble is that I seem to consistently underestimate the distance between me and vehicles when they get closer. I see them as too close and I hastily take evasive action. It's a perception issue and takes getting used to.
I like the fact that you can turn your head and sweep behind you every now and then, just to make sure you have everything covered. It's a good mirror - with skill and practice it is extremely effective.
I mount it on my spectacles. I don't really mind taking it on and off before and after commutes. The extra weight doesn't affect me either.
My only trouble is that I seem to consistently underestimate the distance between me and vehicles when they get closer. I see them as too close and I hastily take evasive action. It's a perception issue and takes getting used to.
I like the fact that you can turn your head and sweep behind you every now and then, just to make sure you have everything covered. It's a good mirror - with skill and practice it is extremely effective.