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11-20-22, 07:36 AM
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I've been out on mine all weekend, we got probably 2 feet of snow in the last week or so. Nice to be out biking instead of sitting in the house, they're a work-out for sure, but so fun.
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11-29-22, 08:42 AM
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And count me back out!
I just took the TF5 out on it's madien voyage, a 10 mile ride, daylight, 25º F. , couple inches of fresh snow, some clear areas on side streets and a small area
that had a wooded trail. The only place the bike felt at home was on the wooded trail, but there are not many of them near me, I'd have to drive 15 miles each way to get
to a park with enough trails.
So I intend to take back the bike for a refund, they offer a 5 day returns on bikes. I have brought it in the house and cleaned it off, so it's still like brand new.
So that's what I'm going to do, a fat bike is definitely not for me. I was going about 10 mph
and really having to work for that, but it wasn't the fact I felt like I was going slow, it's that it seems having tires that big and fat served no purpose. Now I do not own
or ever have owned a mountain bike. I have test rode a few Trek Marlins on dry paved surfaces, yes I felt the difference between that and a road or hybrid. But logic tells me tires which are 2.20" wide would be much better overall on any surface paved, gravel or trail.
I own a road bike and last week got a hybrid. I can either buy studded tires for the hybrid (a Trek FX 6 Sport)..or else I can buy a Trek Marlin 6 or 7. Needless to say the Marlin 6 or 7 would cost less than half of what the Farley 5 costed.
I think a Marlin with it's 2.20" wide tires would handle snow better than my hybrid if I put studded tires on it, anybody with advice about that? Studded or not I doubt a 35 mm wide tire is going to be safe on snowy/icy surfaces.
Oh, one other issue, I drive a very small car, and I don't have a rack. I was used to being able to put my road bike in the hatch inside the car..the Farley did get in my car but it took up 2x as much space, the front wheel had to go where the passenger seat was (I have removed the passenger seat). Now I don't expect a Marlin to fit like my skinny wheeled road bike did, but I'd probably be able to get it all in the back.
I just took the TF5 out on it's madien voyage, a 10 mile ride, daylight, 25º F. , couple inches of fresh snow, some clear areas on side streets and a small area
that had a wooded trail. The only place the bike felt at home was on the wooded trail, but there are not many of them near me, I'd have to drive 15 miles each way to get
to a park with enough trails.
So I intend to take back the bike for a refund, they offer a 5 day returns on bikes. I have brought it in the house and cleaned it off, so it's still like brand new.
So that's what I'm going to do, a fat bike is definitely not for me. I was going about 10 mph
and really having to work for that, but it wasn't the fact I felt like I was going slow, it's that it seems having tires that big and fat served no purpose. Now I do not own
or ever have owned a mountain bike. I have test rode a few Trek Marlins on dry paved surfaces, yes I felt the difference between that and a road or hybrid. But logic tells me tires which are 2.20" wide would be much better overall on any surface paved, gravel or trail.
I own a road bike and last week got a hybrid. I can either buy studded tires for the hybrid (a Trek FX 6 Sport)..or else I can buy a Trek Marlin 6 or 7. Needless to say the Marlin 6 or 7 would cost less than half of what the Farley 5 costed.
I think a Marlin with it's 2.20" wide tires would handle snow better than my hybrid if I put studded tires on it, anybody with advice about that? Studded or not I doubt a 35 mm wide tire is going to be safe on snowy/icy surfaces.
Oh, one other issue, I drive a very small car, and I don't have a rack. I was used to being able to put my road bike in the hatch inside the car..the Farley did get in my car but it took up 2x as much space, the front wheel had to go where the passenger seat was (I have removed the passenger seat). Now I don't expect a Marlin to fit like my skinny wheeled road bike did, but I'd probably be able to get it all in the back.
I've used both studded winter tires on a Marin Nail Trail (26er trail bike) and a Surly Pugsley on my commuting route (mix of roads and rail-trails), and the two are comparable for speed at a given effort. I would pick the bike based on the conditions, fresh snow would be the Pugsley and bare roads (or icy roads) would be the Nail Trail. After the Marin's frame broke, I didn't replace it because the Pugsley was the better options for nearly all conditions (I bought studded fat tires for serious $$ for icy conditions). If your winters are short, fatbikes aren't likely worth N+1, but in Minnesota ... we have snow from November through March, it's easy to go stir-crazy without a way to get out for a ride.
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12-08-22, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzzzz View Post
And count me back out!
I just took the TF5 out on it's madien voyage, a 10 mile ride, daylight, 25º F. , couple inches of fresh snow, some clear areas on side streets and a small area
that had a wooded trail. The only place the bike felt at home was on the wooded trail, but there are not many of them near me, I'd have to drive 15 miles each way to get
to a park with enough trails.
So I intend to take back the bike for a refund, they offer a 5 day returns on bikes. I have brought it in the house and cleaned it off, so it's still like brand new.
So that's what I'm going to do, a fat bike is definitely not for me. I was going about 10 mph
and really having to work for that, but it wasn't the fact I felt like I was going slow, it's that it seems having tires that big and fat served no purpose. Now I do not own
or ever have owned a mountain bike. I have test rode a few Trek Marlins on dry paved surfaces, yes I felt the difference between that and a road or hybrid. But logic tells me tires which are 2.20" wide would be much better overall on any surface paved, gravel or trail.
I own a road bike and last week got a hybrid. I can either buy studded tires for the hybrid (a Trek FX 6 Sport)..or else I can buy a Trek Marlin 6 or 7. Needless to say the Marlin 6 or 7 would cost less than half of what the Farley 5 costed.
I think a Marlin with it's 2.20" wide tires would handle snow better than my hybrid if I put studded tires on it, anybody with advice about that? Studded or not I doubt a 35 mm wide tire is going to be safe on snowy/icy surfaces.
Oh, one other issue, I drive a very small car, and I don't have a rack. I was used to being able to put my road bike in the hatch inside the car..the Farley did get in my car but it took up 2x as much space, the front wheel had to go where the passenger seat was (I have removed the passenger seat). Now I don't expect a Marlin to fit like my skinny wheeled road bike did, but I'd probably be able to get it all in the back.
And count me back out!
I just took the TF5 out on it's madien voyage, a 10 mile ride, daylight, 25º F. , couple inches of fresh snow, some clear areas on side streets and a small area
that had a wooded trail. The only place the bike felt at home was on the wooded trail, but there are not many of them near me, I'd have to drive 15 miles each way to get
to a park with enough trails.
So I intend to take back the bike for a refund, they offer a 5 day returns on bikes. I have brought it in the house and cleaned it off, so it's still like brand new.
So that's what I'm going to do, a fat bike is definitely not for me. I was going about 10 mph
and really having to work for that, but it wasn't the fact I felt like I was going slow, it's that it seems having tires that big and fat served no purpose. Now I do not own
or ever have owned a mountain bike. I have test rode a few Trek Marlins on dry paved surfaces, yes I felt the difference between that and a road or hybrid. But logic tells me tires which are 2.20" wide would be much better overall on any surface paved, gravel or trail.
I own a road bike and last week got a hybrid. I can either buy studded tires for the hybrid (a Trek FX 6 Sport)..or else I can buy a Trek Marlin 6 or 7. Needless to say the Marlin 6 or 7 would cost less than half of what the Farley 5 costed.
I think a Marlin with it's 2.20" wide tires would handle snow better than my hybrid if I put studded tires on it, anybody with advice about that? Studded or not I doubt a 35 mm wide tire is going to be safe on snowy/icy surfaces.
Oh, one other issue, I drive a very small car, and I don't have a rack. I was used to being able to put my road bike in the hatch inside the car..the Farley did get in my car but it took up 2x as much space, the front wheel had to go where the passenger seat was (I have removed the passenger seat). Now I don't expect a Marlin to fit like my skinny wheeled road bike did, but I'd probably be able to get it all in the back.
To me it's primarily for riding trails in the winter, with secondary use of riding trails in the summer. I use a drop-bar converted 90's hybrid with 35mm studded tires for winter commuting, it's definitely faster. The issue is if a trail is not cleared, the 35mm tire is going to have issues in snow once it's packed (fresh snow you'll tend to cut through it to the hard surface below)
There might be more areas with small trails near you than you think, I don't know. There were to me when I got the bike.
12-08-22, 02:04 PM
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I think Buzz deleted all of his posts and made an exit like Karen. Seems he had a difficult time understanding how bikes and bike accessories work.
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12-09-22, 01:26 PM
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12-09-22, 01:37 PM
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Lighten up Meat Free Bike guy. 
Not sure if you are being obtuse or just don't know, so I'll leave this here...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...t-does-it-mean
If you were following the post in the electronics forum Buzz was calling everyone Karen and then adding them to his ignore list.
Not sure if you are being obtuse or just don't know, so I'll leave this here...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...t-does-it-mean
If you were following the post in the electronics forum Buzz was calling everyone Karen and then adding them to his ignore list.
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12-12-22, 08:47 PM
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Lighten up Meat Free Bike guy.
Not sure if you are being obtuse or just don't know, so I'll leave this here...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...t-does-it-mean
If you were following the post in the electronics forum Buzz was calling everyone Karen and then adding them to his ignore list.
Not sure if you are being obtuse or just don't know, so I'll leave this here...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...t-does-it-mean
If you were following the post in the electronics forum Buzz was calling everyone Karen and then adding them to his ignore list.
The reason I have said what I said because I know several Karens all of whom lovely people who aren't calling managers or cops or harassing people of color or anything like that. If anything one of them is a school teacher trying to help a student who is getting bullied and of course facing opposition from school administration because how dare someone try to stop bullying.
