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DBrown9383 10-19-15 12:22 PM

My plan failed
 
I was riding a minimum of 10 miles a day, eating right etc. etc.. My wife scolded me for continuing to ride when the weather turned cold and soggy... I kept riding... Now? day #14 with a bad virus that has had me off the bike for two weeks and counting. It's "going around" here but I thought I'd have a little extra immunity from being healthier than I've been in years. This virus settles in the lungs and makes breathing difficult. I still don't think riding the bike in cold wet weather had anything to do with me getting sick but my wife sure is getting some good "I told you so" s' in.

osco53 10-19-15 12:30 PM

It didn't ,she's wrong.

Velominati, "Keepers of the Cog" Rule #9

If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.


Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather – be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot – are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.....

Velominati ? The Rules

McBTC 10-19-15 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by osco53 (Post 18253774)
It didn't ,she's wrong.

Velominati, "Keepers of the Cog" Rule #9

If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.


Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather – be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot – are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.....

Velominati ? The Rules

That would be Lance Armstrong. He was a druggie but he also worked a lot harder than all of his critics and prosecutors, no matter what the weather.

DBrown9383 10-19-15 12:36 PM

I'm not a badass but as long as it's not snowing, I don't see a problem with riding in the cold or wet. Based on the logic "stay out of the cold" we'd never do any winter sports.

kevmk81 10-19-15 12:39 PM

Just a matter of a lowered immune system at just the right time - probably due to riding. Cold weather or not, you would have got the bug.

obed7 10-19-15 01:40 PM

yep, cold does not give you a cold....but let her enjoy her moment.

Rick@OCRR 10-19-15 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by osco53 (Post 18253774)
Velominati, "Keepers of the Cog" Rule #9

If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
Fair-weather riding is a luxury reserved for Sunday afternoons and wide boulevards. Those who ride in foul weather – be it cold, wet, or inordinately hot – are members of a special club of riders who, on the morning of a big ride, pull back the curtain to check the weather and, upon seeing rain falling from the skies, allow a wry smile to spread across their face. This is a rider who loves the work.....Velominati ? The Rules

Funny, but as I was riding yesterday in heavy fog and light rain . . . I actually thought about Rule # 9. Part of me was saying "Turn back, this is too dangerous!" but just the thought of Rule # 9 kept me climbing in this horrible weather. The temp was 42 Deg.F so I thought, "Not really all that cold!" and kept going.

As if to answer my thoughts, and as I descended to 6,000 ft., the sun came out and I was able to take off my rain jacket . . . not badass any more but I didn't care.

Rule # 9 is not going to prevent the OP's virus, but it's not going to cause it either.

Rick / OCRR

Biker395 10-19-15 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by obed7 (Post 18253984)
yep, cold does not give you a cold....but let her enjoy her moment.

+1

Another case where people confuse correlation with causation.

I read somewhere that colds and flu are more common with the onset of cold weather because people come into closer contact with one another that time of year (particularly children entering school).

I do think that overall, regular exercise improves your immune system. But I also think that your immune system is somewhat compromised during and immediately after the activity itself. Don't ask me for proof though ...

Biker395 10-19-15 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR (Post 18254009)
Funny, but as I was riding yesterday in heavy fog and light rain . . . I actually thought about Rule # 9. Part of me was saying "Turn back, this is too dangerous!" but just the thought of Rule # 9 kept me climbing in this horrible weather. The temp was 42 Deg.F so I thought, "Not really all that cold!" and kept going.

As if to answer my thoughts, and as I descended to 6,000 ft., the sun came out and I was able to take off my rain jacket . . . not badass any more but I didn't care.

Rule # 9 is not going to prevent the OP's virus, but it's not going to cause it either.

Rick / OCRR

Where was this?

Rick@OCRR 10-19-15 02:18 PM

Hi Vic,

Big Bear area. I started out from our cabin (Fawnskin), took Northshore drive to the dam, turned right and headed up the climb to the area locals call "The Arctic Circle." Dark, cloudy and windy on Northshore, hit fog on Hwy 18, light rain a short time later.

This was shorts, jersey, base layer, arm warmers, knee warmers, wool socks but no shoe covers. I was okay to the summit but it was very dark and me with just a small helmet flasher (not smart). It was (visually) cool the way the thermals lifted the fog almost vertically over the roadway. Would have made a great photo by Vic Cooper!

At the summit I put on my Showers Pass jacket (so, hopefully, the drivers could see me before they ran me over). So yes, a scary fast (and wet) descent but back at lake level the rain stopped and fog decreased. By the time I got to the Discovery Center on Northshore the sun had come out so I took off my rain jacket and rode over to Starbucks (on Big Bear Blvd.).

Funny, but the barrista there advised me not to ride up to the Arctic Circle (too late buddy, been there, done that) since the fog was so thick! After coffee I took off on South Shore climbed Boulder Bay climbs, descended (new pavement, yes!) to the dam and took North shore back to the cabin.

You should ride Tour de Big Bear some day! Jackie, Rosanne and I had ridden to Onyx the day before.

Saturday's ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/415904668

Sunday's ride on Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/415904671

Rick / OCRR

DBrown9383 10-19-15 05:37 PM

It's all good. Now I have time to read all the bicycle mags I have accumulated and drool over bikes I can't afford

Rudy40 10-19-15 06:32 PM

Failure? No failure, only feedback. Recovery and rest are important, too. Get well, first, then get back on the bike. One other thing, listen to your wife. And maybe check your vitamin D3 level.

Baldy1953 10-19-15 07:45 PM

OP, I don't think your plan failed. It was just the luck of the draw you got ill. However, let your wife be "right". They always know best! At least mine thinks she does. After my bike accident, she did not want me to go riding again. Done more than 2000 miles since May with no problems. (other than wearing out the tires and chain) Take it easy and get back on the bike soon.

berner 10-20-15 10:24 AM

Speaking of bolstering the immune system, - garlic and lots of it is part of the answer. It will improve the immune system and prevent many undesirable consequences including warding against vampire bites. My Mom always cooked with plenty of garlic and no one in our family was every bitten by a vampire, not even once. Positive proof right there and over many years.

chasm54 10-20-15 10:33 AM

You should listen to your wife.

Carbonfiberboy 10-20-15 10:42 AM

My wife had the bad luck to attend a meeting with an elementary school teacher. 3 days later, she was down with that virus and 2 days later I had it. Down into our lungs it went. We were unable to exercise or do much of anything for a month. We both had asthma, my wife bad enough to get scary. We had our flu shots, too.

We're OK now and back at it, but wow are we crappy. My resting HR was up 15 beats and we lost about 1/3 of our power on the tandem. I figure we'll be back to where we were in about 3 months. We're doing zone 1 or 2 either outside or on our trainers every day and an hour twice a week at the gym.

Carbonfiberboy 10-20-15 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by chasm54 (Post 18256346)

Interesting. We had come back from a long cold backpack, but weren't exposed until we'd been back for several days. We had been taking the week we got sick completely off from training. Of course it's not a good idea to let your body temperature get down to 33°C. When I had an acute appendicitis in college, I crawled through the snow to the infirmary. Body temp was below 33°, but I didn't catch cold. The nurses were taking turns taking my temperature and shaking their heads, thinking their thermometers couldn't be right. They had the thing out in a few hours, and I was doing pushups beside the bed the next morning. I've always been like this.

Jim from Boston 10-20-15 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by obed7 (Post 18253984)
yep, cold does not give you a cold....but let her enjoy her moment.

I think the best rule of cycling while sick is ride if it's above the neck, don't ride when it's below the neck.

One day I was getting ready to ride (when well) in nasty winter weather, and my wife chided me, "You just want to ride so you can write about it in Bike Forums." :notamused:

B. Carfree 10-20-15 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Biker395 (Post 18254034)
+1

Another case where people confuse correlation with causation.

I read somewhere that colds and flu are more common with the onset of cold weather because people come into closer contact with one another that time of year (particularly children entering school).

I do think that overall, regular exercise improves your immune system. But I also think that your immune system is somewhat compromised during and immediately after the activity itself. Don't ask me for proof though ...

Another factor is that immune function gets lower as the amount of sunlight falls in the, er, Fall. Elderly people tend to have lousy immune systems year-round, but the rest of us (young at least at heart) get that same lowered response just as we enter the time of year when we spend more time indoors with other people.

OP, take care with this virus. If it is the adeno virus that has been common here, it killed some children back east earlier in the year. That's just plain weird (and tragic) for an adeno virus, which usually are subclinical infections. My wife got it and spent three weeks down, then hit rock bottom with a secondary bacterial pneumonia. She got better, we got a couple of tandem rides in, then it was my turn. I'm finishing week three and I'm still not fully recovered.

NerdLord 10-21-15 01:22 AM

the operating word is VIRUS, you don't get infected from wet or cold, it's from coming in contact with someone or something that had it, then giving it access by touching you eyes, mouth, nose, etc...

all wet and cold can do is put the body under stress and lower it's ability to fight it off.

GeneO 10-21-15 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by DBrown9383 (Post 18253757)
I was riding a minimum of 10 miles a day, eating right etc. etc.. My wife scolded me for continuing to ride when the weather turned cold and soggy... I kept riding... Now? day #14 with a bad virus that has had me off the bike for two weeks and counting. It's "going around" here but I thought I'd have a little extra immunity from being healthier than I've been in years. This virus settles in the lungs and makes breathing difficult. I still don't think riding the bike in cold wet weather had anything to do with me getting sick but my wife sure is getting some good "I told you so" s' in.

Yeah, you get sick from being confined indoors, not being outdoors. Keep it going man.

climberguy 10-21-15 07:57 PM

Riding a bike, whatever the weather, doesn't give you a cold or prevent you from getting one. You may wish to avoid people who are fond of saying, "I told you so," especially when they are wrong.

Dave Cutter 10-21-15 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by DBrown9383 (Post 18253757)
I was riding a minimum of 10 miles a day, eating right etc. etc.. My wife scolded me for continuing to ride when the weather turned cold and soggy... I kept riding... Now? day #14 with a bad virus......

I am just curious..... the etc. etc.... does that mean you DID get a flu shot?

DBrown9383 10-21-15 09:03 PM

No, I didn't get a flu shot yet but this is NOT the flu.. Finally over the hump on day 16. I will be getting flu shot, pneumonia shot, shingles and whooping cough shots as soon as I'm over this dreadful virus.

DBrown9383 10-21-15 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by climberguy (Post 18260649)
Riding a bike, whatever the weather, doesn't give you a cold or prevent you from getting one. You may wish to avoid people who are fond of saying, "I told you so," especially when they are wrong.

LOL, that would be difficult to do. It just seems to me women always reserve the right to say "I told you so" but men dare not say that to their wives

BlazingPedals 10-22-15 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by DBrown9383 (Post 18253787)
I'm not a badass but as long as it's not snowing, I don't see a problem with riding in the cold or wet. Based on the logic "stay out of the cold" we'd never do any winter sports.

LOL I don't mind riding in snow, but I won't ride in cold rain.

Jim from Boston 10-22-15 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by BlazingPedals (Post 18261146)
LOL I don't mind riding in snow, but I won't ride in cold rain.

I agree that riding in cold rain is worse than about any condition less than 32°F. The worst part IMO is the hands, and I have found some seemingly pretty good waterproof workman's glove that I can't wait to try out. I have footwear that is pretty waterproof (but retains sweat).

wphamilton 10-22-15 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by chasm54 (Post 18256346)

They're reporting on Temperature-dependent innate defense against the common cold virus limits viral replication at warm temperature in mouse airway cells (I wish they'd put these links or at least the title in articles like that).

BTW the flu virus likes it best at about 40° and 20% humidity.

baron von trail 10-22-15 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by DBrown9383 (Post 18253757)
I was riding a minimum of 10 miles a day, eating right etc. etc.. My wife scolded me for continuing to ride when the weather turned cold and soggy... I kept riding... Now? day #14 with a bad virus that has had me off the bike for two weeks and counting. It's "going around" here but I thought I'd have a little extra immunity from being healthier than I've been in years. This virus settles in the lungs and makes breathing difficult. I still don't think riding the bike in cold wet weather had anything to do with me getting sick but my wife sure is getting some good "I told you so" s' in.

Yep, the respiratory bug going around this year is hard to shake. Two weeks sounds about right. My bout with it came and went earlier this month. No way could I ride for about 7-10 days.

McBTC 10-22-15 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by baron von trail (Post 18261627)
Yep, the respiratory bug going around this year is hard to shake. Two weeks sounds about right. My bout with it came and went earlier this month. No way could I ride for about 7-10 days.

You can forget about the flu shot. Just get what's going around, grin and bear it and you'll be better off even if you get it than thinking the flu shot is going to prevent infection. We've got people from all over the world coming through here and they're bringing bugs with them that are far worse "colds" than what most of us grew up experiencing here in the USA. I've been told that what folks here have been getting over the last year -- that's so hard to shake -- has come up from, Sudamérica.


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