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SammyJ 03-23-16 03:14 PM

Riding in the drops
 
This last few weeks, I can find myself riding in the drops, not just a short while, but for miles at a time.

Sure helps fight a headwind!

That last 10 pounds may have been the difference.

intransit1217 03-23-16 03:30 PM

Oh yeah. Drops are a free 1mph gain.

berner 03-23-16 05:09 PM

I ride in the drops now and again, for a mile or so. I like the change of position but don't ride fast enough to get the aero advantage,

Barrettscv 03-23-16 06:08 PM

Compact handlebars help me stay in drops on my modern bikes. The position is more comfortable than keeping my hands on the hoods, IMO.

andr0id 03-23-16 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 18631426)
This last few weeks, I can find myself riding in the drops, not just a short while, but for miles at a time.

Sure helps fight a headwind!

That last 10 pounds may have been the difference.

Absolutely!

If you can ride there consistently and comfortably, it makes a nice difference into a headwind.

StanSeven 03-23-16 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by berner (Post 18631693)
I ride in the drops now and again, for a mile or so. I like the change of position but don't ride fast enough to get the aero advantage,

Actually you get the aero advantage at all speeds. It's just much more noticable and beneficial at higher speeds. Just cruising along, mYbe half you energy is to overcome wind resistence. When you push really hard, you might be spending 90% for a marginal improvement.

ltxi 03-23-16 06:31 PM

My 35 y/0 Fuji GranTourer has bar end shifters. Reminds me of how I used to ride every time I look at it/roll it out.

qcpmsame 03-23-16 06:42 PM

Good for you, Sammy, great to hear when folks here pass milestones in their return to riding and their fitness improving.

Bill

Bandera 03-23-16 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 18631426)
Sure helps fight a headwind!

They do as well as descending, sprinting and taking a pull in a paceline: Drop bars have been quite useful for the last century or so.
All of the various hand positions are quite useful for the variations of terrain/wind/distance/surface/pace: using them all as required works quite well.

Keep at it! :thumb:

-Bandera

AgeOfEmpires 03-23-16 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 18631426)

That last 10 pounds may have been the difference.

I think I've got about 10 pounds to go before I get to that last 10 pounds that would make a difference! :)

OldsCOOL 03-23-16 07:30 PM

I train myself to ride in the drops so it becomes normal for me. When on a long ride, going aero is being energy saving. If I'm riding for a PR, it makes a difference. If turning into a headwind riding in the drops can mean survival.

MoAlpha 03-23-16 07:57 PM

Comfort in an aero position, in the hooks, let alone the drops, comes, at least in my case, from lower back strength, which, in turn, is a component of a strong core. Deadlifts, deadlifts, deadlifts.

OldTryGuy 03-24-16 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 18631426)
.......That last 10 pounds may have been the difference.

Outstanding with the weight loss! :thumb:

I used to enjoy riding the drops and hooks but severe joint degradation causes too much pain that outweighs the advantage. Aerobars have been my salvation and thankfully the people I ride with are very comfortable with my use of them during our rides.

OldsCOOL 03-24-16 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 18632023)
Comfort in an aero position, in the hooks, let alone the drops, comes, at least in my case, from lower back strength, which, in turn, is a component of a strong core. Deadlifts, deadlifts, deadlifts.

I was a competing powerlifter. :)

Riding in the drops conserves energy, for me it is very noticeable above 12mph.

MoAlpha 03-24-16 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by OldsCOOL (Post 18632639)
I was a competing powerlifter. :)

As I tell the mooks at the gym, I may be weak, but I'm slow!

Looigi 03-24-16 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by SammyJ (Post 18631426)
...Sure helps fight a headwind!..

That's why drops exist.

OldsCOOL 03-24-16 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 18632658)
As I tell the mooks at the gym, I may be weak, but I'm slow!

I still love the heavy weights and would lift year round but I love riding too much. Losing upperbody size has been something to deal with. :)

MoAlpha 03-24-16 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by OldsCOOL (Post 18632819)
I still love the heavy weights and would lift year round but I love riding too much. Losing upperbody size has been something to deal with. :)

Upper body size has not exactly been a problem for me. In my other sport, racing big sailboats offshore, UB strength is not only a competitive advantage, but a safety issue. It would also be nice not be be the lightest guy on the boat and have to go up the mast to un-fk things. However, I train with the weights all year and drink my whey protein without dramatic results.

canklecat 03-24-16 08:46 PM

The past few rides make me wish I could still handle drops, but my C2 vertebrae injury probably won't cooperate. It's been windy with steady 10-20 mph winds and gusts over 30. I can drape my forearms across my upright bars for a few minutes at a time to get a lower profile in the worst winds, but can't maintain that posture long. I didn't mind until I noticed guys tucked in on road bikes flying past me like I'm standing still. I want to believe it's just the bikes and drops, but ... nah.

Loose Chain 03-24-16 10:11 PM

I ride in the drops probably 50% of the time, winds are brutal here. But, often, especially with the wind on my back, I ride without my hand on the bars at all and just sail along pedaling enough to keep from coasting.

02Giant 03-25-16 04:29 AM

I'm in the drops 90+% of the time. If I wanted to sit up and ride I would take the hybrid.

MoAlpha 03-25-16 04:43 AM

Just to be pedantic, the hooks vs drops discussion is meaningless without knowing the bike setup and the angle of the rider's elbows. Anyone living in the drops, even shallow ones, likely has their bars pretty high.

TCR Rider 03-25-16 09:59 AM

When I'm in the drops I appreciate the free speed but I also notice that I tend to generate less power. If I can figure out how to generate the same amount of power in the drops and combine that with the free speed then I would really have something.;)

Hermes1 03-25-16 10:35 AM

I agree as well, a real benefit for me in a headwind or when needing to make time.

gregf83 03-25-16 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 18635153)
Just to be pedantic, the hooks vs drops discussion is meaningless without knowing the bike setup and the angle of the rider's elbows. Anyone living in the drops, even shallow ones, likely has their bars pretty high.

+1. You can be more aero riding on the hoods with your arms bent as there is less arm exposed to the wind.


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