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dmanthree 09-15-16 06:15 AM

Saddles, yet again. (Adamo?)
 
OK, after years of riding a Brooks B17, I started having issues this year. I switched to a C17, which was a slight improvement, and I can get buy with it, but I'm still looking. Question: have any of you fellow geezers tried the Adamo (ISM) saddles? If so, what was your experience with them?

Imabmwnut 09-15-16 07:32 AM

My wife has an Adamo Typhoon on her road bike. She says it's much better than a stock seat.
We both have the Nexride noseless saddles on our hybrids. Check out their website. Only thing on the seat are the sitbones. I can sit on mine all day and get off and still walk. I'm 57 and don't like to be in pain. They have lycra covers on them from the factory. Took them to an upholstery shop and had them covered in leather for 20$. Try one. You'll like it.

Len S 09-15-16 07:40 AM

Saddles are such a personal thing. What is GREAT for one person might be unbearable for another. All depends on pelvic geometry. Idle would be to find a friend with the saddle you think you want and give his/hers a try.
I personally have "discovered" the Convor classic design and it fits me and my vintage bikes to a "T".
Go luck and good hunting.

Joe Minton 09-15-16 09:43 AM

If you are experiencing pain at the front of your crotch (perineum), you might take a look at noseless saddles. I use two Adamos (Prologue) and one Cobb (Randee). All three have eliminated crotch pain and I can ride them all day in reasonable comfort.

No traditional saddle I have ever used in the 57 years I've been riding road bikes has equaled the comfort of these noseless saddles. Given my age, 74, I probably would not be riding now given how much more uncomfortable traditional saddles have become for me.

Joe

fietsbob 09-15-16 11:18 AM

Edit : That specific one No, Get one , sit on it and see if your arse likes it .

to make the Hole the saddle nose has to be Wider overall



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John_V 09-15-16 11:46 AM

I'm 70 and I've been riding an ISM Prologue on my Colnago for the past 3 1/2 years and at this point, I don't think I will ever ride on a different saddle, ever again. It was love at first sit and hasn't changed since then. I ride 8-10,000 miles a year and this saddle has never caused me any pain or discomfort whatsoever.

That said, I have suggested the ISM line of saddles to several of my friends only to find out that they are not for everyone. If you have wide sitbones, these saddles may not be what you are looking for. I would strongly recommend that you try one before you buy. Before you ride on one, make sure that you view the videos on their website for proper mounting of the saddle as they don't mount like standard style saddles do.

John E 09-15-16 01:54 PM

I remain a Brooks [Team] Pro fan, but I admit the break-in process is not particularly fun.

philbob57 09-15-16 03:11 PM

I tried an ISM PR 2.0 earlier this year, after I started having numbness problems with my B17 Imperial.

It's worth a shot, but you need to follow their setup instructions to the letter. Also, you need to ride on it 'square', not to one side - many people ride to one side on traditional saddles. IOW, you need to give yourself some time to get used to it.

Their theory, which works for me, is that you don't spend all that much time riding on your ischial tuberosities; rather, you spend most of your time on your pubic rami. Therefore, sitbone width is a minor concern, if it's a concern at all.

ISMs appear to have a nose, but appearances are wrong in this case. Be sure and check out the medical images at the bottom of the setup page. The rear section of the ISM is deceptive, too. Ischial tuberosities should be placed in front of the widest portion of the seat, and the arms/horns fit about half way into your crotch - dangly bits ride in front of the arms, and soft tissue behind the dangly bits ride in the cutout.

In the end, the PR 2.0 didn't work for me, but it clearly works for a lot of people. I suspect my excess weight may cause problems with the ISM I tried.

If the ISM you choose doesn't work for you, I recommend trying out a Selle SMP saddle. (I'm on a TRK because it was cheap.) Way different from the Brooks. I've been numbness free as far as 20 miles without a break. (I've done several 25-30 mile rides without numbness, but those rides have always included some sort of interruption in butt-on-the-saddle time.) With the SMPs, the dangly bits ride in front of the dip - see the diagrams in the US patent application (sorry, I don't have a link).

dim 09-15-16 03:14 PM

C17 Carved .... the one with the slot and designed for long distance

buy it

Western Flyer 09-16-16 12:27 AM

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I had an Adamo, don’t remember the model. I used it for less than three months before giving it to the local bike co-op. After a twelve day tour I had such a painful rash on the inside of my thighs I had to tip the saddle way down in the front just to keep riding. I’ve read this is a common complaint. On the plus side there is zero pressure on the soft tender places. I see a number of triathletes using them on their TT bikes. You sit far forward with half or more of the rear section there just to satisfy UCI rules.

dmanthree 09-16-16 12:02 PM

The LBS has some loaners, so I'll take a look. I wonder if they have any Cobb loaners, as well? Those look like they might be worth a shot.

John_V 09-16-16 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by dmanthree (Post 19060279)
The LBS has some loaners, so I'll take a look. I wonder if they have any Cobb loaners, as well? Those look like they might be worth a shot.

ISM is a local company and I have a friend that works there so I get some of the lowdown scoops. The Cobb saddles and the ISM saddles are almost the same since John Cobb was the architect of that design when he worked at ISM, years ago. One important difference is that the Cobb saddle has the two nose prongs connected from the bottom side of the saddle. One of the issues with the ISM saddles is that if you don't ride square on the saddle, one of the prongs tends to drop below the other prong when the saddle is mounted on seat posts with the clamp bolts on the side. Trek seat posts are a good example. If you tend to ride more to one side over the other, the prong on the side you tend to lean toward will be the one that drops down. The Cobb saddles eliminate this by having the prongs connected. ISM states that to avoid the dropping of one of the prongs, tighten the clamp bolts to the correct torque so they don't loosen up from leaning to that side. My clamp bolts are on the bottom of the clamp, so I have never had that problem.

osco53 09-16-16 01:15 PM

I have had the ISM Adamo Peak on my Mountain bikes,, (I moved It from my Hard Tail to my full suspension) for almost four years now, love It, wont ride any other kind.

I got a Trek Crossrip 3, the Bontrager Paradigm seat that came with the bike was great,,or so I thought.
As soon as I started riding over 20 miles I started down into the pain locker. Riding In the drops was becoming unbearable.

Just put the ISM PL 1.1 on,,, PL 1.1 ? ISM No pain on the first ride, Done..

Below Is my off road saddle,, sloped rear area for easy slide offs and re mounts, This model has been updated..

osco53 09-16-16 01:18 PM

Pay close attention to the fit video's as these saddles mount very differently.
I have a Carbon seat post on order for my Gravel bike, My stock post has 8mm offset I want 15mm.

My Mountain bike had 15mm offset stock so no need for a change on that bike...

The width Is NOT an Issue, Not Having to deal with a pointed saddle nose damaging me Is Everything !

As for leaning,, You sit forward on the ISM, Your 'Sit Bones' are correctly supported and your 'Boys' are naturally In front of the seat.

I cannot Imagine not being centered on a bike saddle..


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