So, are my LeMond Versailles carbon bikes "racing bikes"?
As a new cyclist I bought the first Versailles because it was the cheapest bike that soaked up most of the vibration from chip coated roads. My-O-My, was that bike twitchy! Still is. Bought the second one in another city because I needed a bike and was tired of renting. Both have been modified to be more comfortable and easier for my well used body. More upright, larger tires, and gears. So, were these "racing bikes"? Are they still? |
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Originally Posted by mpath
(Post 19225359)
Most of my riding peers ride race-geometry frames "just because" - read: vanity, pride, narcissism :D - but not set up as a racing bike, which makes it look awkward (but no more awkward than a bunch of 50+ men in lycra).
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If it's a De Rosa and the same model ridden by Eddy Merckx in competition, it's a race bike;
1983ish De Rosa Professional. Updated with 2x9 Campagnola Chorus drivetrain, shifters and brakes. Chorus hubs with Velocity A23 rims. 700x28 Vittorio Corsa G+ tires. NOS S. Marco Concor genuine suede saddle. http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...psflwa0ljn.jpg http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...pso7s56uu4.jpg http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...psxsnxcy3n.jpg . |
Originally Posted by Barrettscv
(Post 19650856)
If it's a De Rosa and the same model ridden by Eddy Merckx in competition, it's a race bike;
1983ish De Rosa Professional. Updated with 2x9 Campagnola Chorus drivetrain, shifters and brakes. Chorus hubs with Velocity A23 rims. 700x28 Vittorio Corsa G+ tires. NOS S. Marco Concor genuine suede saddle. http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...psflwa0ljn.jpg http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...pso7s56uu4.jpg http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/...psxsnxcy3n.jpg . |
This is one of my road racing bikes. Sometimes I ride it to work. It's a lot of fun, and it weighs 20 pounds. I have never raced it.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LU...w1804-h1352-no |
This is my 1971 track racing bike. I did race it on the track in the summer of 2014.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5R...w1798-h1352-no |
Originally Posted by BikeArkansas
(Post 19121118)
Just curious how many of the 50+ men and women have ridden a true race bike. Lets say less than 17#, set up agressive with a ride of at least 25 miles (not just around the parking lot or block). Of course a good fit would make a difference as far as enjoying a race bike, as it is normally not a forgiving type ride. Did you find it much easier to climb, quicker to handle, harsh ride? What did you decide - Loved it, Hated it, bought one or will never get on another bike like that again?
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I've had a bunch:
'86 Gazelle Champion Mondial '89 Trek 660 '00 Trek 5200 '08 Bianchi 928 T-Cube '09 Cervelo Soloist '13 Ridley Excalibur '15 Specialized Tarmac The Gazelle was my Sunday C&V bike, but I had to press it into race service once. I'd crashed my Cervelo during the Saturday race of an omnium and couldn't fix it in time. The Gazelle was older than three of my teammates in the race. It didn't hold me back. https://68.media.tumblr.com/b11045b0...158mo1_540.jpg Current race bike, with training wheels. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...psbdhh5fd6.jpg Former race bike, with race wheels. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18...psdwv5cwaw.jpg |
I've ridden this Crit frame Mercian Pro since 1988. It's pretty much a body part by now. It's stiff, very responsive and fast, even if I'm not. I tried competing in the early '70s and I didn't like it. But I sure liked how the machines rode.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Js...w1640-h1230-no |
Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 19651643)
I've ridden this Crit frame Mercian Pro since 1988. It's pretty much a body part by now. It's stiff, very responsive and fast, even if I'm not. I tried competing in the early '70s and I didn't like it. But I sure liked how the machines rode.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 19652439)
It's your turn for your picture not to work. :(
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Originally Posted by ascherer
(Post 19652583)
Really? It's showing up on multiple platforms for me, but I'll check.
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Originally Posted by canklecat
(Post 19653587)
It's Google's photo hosting. Erratic and nobody can figure out why. I finally quit linking to photos on my Google account and went back to using Photobucket for hosting photos I planned to share on forums.
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I tried everything I could think of to make Google photos work consistently here and on other forums. Sometimes my photos showed up, sometimes not. I'd double check using another browser without logging in and with the cache emptied. It was frustrating. And Google doesn't help -- many users have asked about this on Google forums, without getting any resolution.
Photobucket was easier. Some photo hosts are quicker, but I can't keep up with all those accounts so I just went back to photobucket. |
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Here's my first race bike, 1964 Legnano, 20something lbs. , and my newest, 2011 Culprit, 17lbs. I love them both, and ride them both. The carbon Culprit is faster, harsher than the real steel Legnano. Both are fun. I find that my hr runs about 10 beats faster on average with the Legnano, either it's heavier, or its just more exciting remembering the glory days on the old bike.
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Since posting to this thread last October I've finally added a road racing bike to the stable -- an '89 Centurion Ironman. It was affordable enough that it didn't make sense to rent a comparable newer road bike for a few rides while deciding.
Not sure how long I'll keep it. Good bike but very uncomfortable for me due to the chronic neck pain I mentioned last year. I can always resell it and not lose anything. I rode it five consecutive days last week, 10-30 miles each. I started out faster than usual, averaging 16-18 mph, but gradually got slower toward the end of the week as the neck and back pain worsened. And I don't usually ride consecutive days anyway, let alone in summer, so my legs felt dead. Took a day off Saturday, rode 10 miles Sunday and 35 miles Monday and was absolutely miserable Monday night and Tuesday with back and neck spasms. I'll work on the bike fit a little at a time. I've already raised the stem to the safe limit mark. Still too low for comfort so I tilted the handlebar back toward me to ease the reach for riding the hoods. Today I'll experiment with saddle stuff -- angle, fore/aft, etc. I might try a handlebar with a more horizontal reach to the hoods. I see some good and affordable compact drop bars on various catalogs. Anyway, I don't see myself ever racing again, not even crits for old folks. So if it isn't comfortable enough to enjoy the speed advantage over my hybrid I'll probably sell it. But I plan to give it until the end of the year before deciding. I need to work on my back and neck flexibility and strength too so it's premature to decide. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...5.jpg~original And after adjusting bar and stem a bit. Needs padded tape before another long ride -- my left hand is a bit numb after several rides, even with gloves. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...5.jpg~original
Originally Posted by canklecat
(Post 19121516)
I haven't ridden anything that would be considered a state of the art race bike by current standards. I have ridden bikes that would have been state of the art 20-30 years ago, and would still be competitive in local crits.
I wouldn't buy one now. Chronic and occasionally severe pain from an old neck injury limits me to bikes with bars slightly above saddle height. I can't crane my neck upward at all, and I'm not comfortable with the idea of riding drops without being able to look up often. |
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Originally Posted by Slightspeed
(Post 19654085)
Here's my first race bike, 1964 Legnano, 20something lbs. , and my newest, 2011 Culprit, 17lbs. I love them both, and ride them both. The carbon Culprit is faster, harsher than the real steel Legnano. Both are fun. I find that my hr runs about 10 beats faster on average with the Legnano, either it's heavier, or its just more exciting remembering the glory days on the old bike.
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