Any other old timers enjoy riding slow?
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Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
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80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim? It sure seems to be really outlandish.
Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
Now will you admit that a large area web seat is more comfortable than a tiny little saddle? Especially for the occasional rider.
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80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim? It sure seems to be really outlandish.
Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
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Ok. Got it. When you posted "probably 80% or more of cyclist" you aren't considering mountain bikers to be cyclists. Odd, but at least you clarified.
I'll answer your question once you have answered mine. That's only fair.
Here are my questions that you failed to answer:
"80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim?"
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Ok. Got it. When you posted "probably 80% or more of cyclist" you aren't considering mountain bikers to be cyclists. Odd, but at least you clarified.
I'll answer your question once you have answered mine. That's only fair.
Here are my questions that you failed to answer:
"80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim?"
I'll answer your question once you have answered mine. That's only fair.
Here are my questions that you failed to answer:
"80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim?"
Also remember almost all of us bent riders put tens of thousands of miles on DF bikes before we got our bents. We know what the plusses and minuses of DF bikes are. Can you state that you and all of the other bike riders have put thousands of miles on a bent, so you can truely say you know what you are talking against?
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Ok. Got it. When you posted "probably 80% or more of cyclist" you aren't considering mountain bikers to be cyclists. Odd, but at least you clarified.
I'll answer your question once you have answered mine. That's only fair.
Here are my questions that you failed to answer:
"80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim?"
I'll answer your question once you have answered mine. That's only fair.
Here are my questions that you failed to answer:
"80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim?"
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Also remember almost all of us bent riders put tens of thousands of miles on DF bikes before we got our bents. We know what the plusses and minuses of DF bikes are. Can you state that you and all of the other bike riders have put thousands of miles on a bent, so you can truely say you know what you are talking against?
I merely asked you to provide a source for your claim that "80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike."
You have't bee able to provide a source and instead continue to only offer your opinion.
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Also remember almost all of us bent riders put tens of thousands of miles on DF bikes before we got our bents. We know what the plusses and minuses of DF bikes are. Can you state that you and all of the other bike riders have put thousands of miles on a bent, so you can truely say you know what you are talking against?
Also remember almost all of us bent riders put tens of thousands of miles on DF bikes before we got our bents. We know what the plusses and minuses of DF bikes are. Can you state that you and all of the other bike riders have put thousands of miles on a bent, so you can truely say you know what you are talking against?
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I'm all about slow...
I'm all about slow, as a matter of fact one of the reasons I bought my folding bike was so I can put it in my trunk and go for a ride when we reach our destination. My wife loves to walk for an hour around some of these old towns in Europe. I cannot enjoy doing that as my lower back starts hurting from slow long walks. So, now I can just peddle around the town and even see more things in the town because even riding a bike slowly is faster than walking.
I keep the bike in the car all the time. My wife decides to go to a swapmeet then I'll pull it out of the trunk and just pedal around the area rather than sit in the car. And, there's no way I can walk around the swapmeet. I do that and I'm done for the rest of the day. After a slow bike ride I feel great!
I keep the bike in the car all the time. My wife decides to go to a swapmeet then I'll pull it out of the trunk and just pedal around the area rather than sit in the car. And, there's no way I can walk around the swapmeet. I do that and I'm done for the rest of the day. After a slow bike ride I feel great!
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I'm all about slow, as a matter of fact one of the reasons I bought my folding bike was so I can put it in my trunk and go for a ride when we reach our destination. My wife loves to walk for an hour around some of these old towns in Europe. I cannot enjoy doing that as my lower back starts hurting from slow long walks. So, now I can just peddle around the town and even see more things in the town because even riding a bike slowly is faster than walking.
I keep the bike in the car all the time. My wife decides to go to a swapmeet then I'll pull it out of the trunk and just pedal around the area rather than sit in the car. And, there's no way I can walk around the swapmeet. I do that and I'm done for the rest of the day. After a slow bike ride I feel great!
I keep the bike in the car all the time. My wife decides to go to a swapmeet then I'll pull it out of the trunk and just pedal around the area rather than sit in the car. And, there's no way I can walk around the swapmeet. I do that and I'm done for the rest of the day. After a slow bike ride I feel great!
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Personal experience. I have sagged a large number of our bike club rides. When most of the DF riders ride up they jump off their bikes, pick at their laundry and shake out their hands. Bent cyclist OTOH ride up stay seated, finish off their water bottles before getting off. Please dont tell me a large mesh seat is not more comfortable than a tiny saddle!!!!!!! Since long day riding is necessary for cross country riders, more and more of them are going to bents and trikes. Primary is comfort, and second is the view.
Also remember almost all of us bent riders put tens of thousands of miles on DF bikes before we got our bents. We know what the plusses and minuses of DF bikes are. Can you state that you and all of the other bike riders have put thousands of miles on a bent, so you can truely say you know what you are talking against?
Also remember almost all of us bent riders put tens of thousands of miles on DF bikes before we got our bents. We know what the plusses and minuses of DF bikes are. Can you state that you and all of the other bike riders have put thousands of miles on a bent, so you can truely say you know what you are talking against?
That could be because it's harder to get in & out of a 'bent, & more complex to park one.
They may not be more comfortable, just confused about how to hang their bike on the rack.
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Of course, the more dangerous exertion can be found on the basketball court during older pick--up games. Plenty of heart attacks there. At least, anecdotally...
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80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike? Do you have a source for your claim? It sure seems to be really outlandish.
Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
Also, do you really think that the mountain bikers that are part of your "80% or more" would be able to ride singletrack on a recumbent or trike?
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Again-------------------remember all of us bent riders have put tens of thousands of miles on a DF bike. We can tell you with full assurance that a large webbed seat is far more comfortable than a tiny saddle. Especially when ridding for several hours. Can you argue with that?
You haven't been able to answer my simple question and instead continue to only offer your opinion. Now you're attempting to change the discussion to whether a "large webbed seat is far more comfortable than a tiny saddle."
To answer your new question, let me use an analogy that shows just how meaningless your previous "80%" claim is:
A Barcalounger is more comfortable than a bar stool. That does not mean that 80% of the people that sit on bar stools are in pain.
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I'm sorry that you can't do that, though I don't quite understand why your blood pressure skyrockets. Riding hard and long has been beneficial for all my physiological markers. Though I understand that's not universal, studies say it's much more likely to be true than not. However that is, my guess is that it's better to ride slowly than not at all.
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Since we are re-hashing some of these posts I would offer that someone in their 60s who CAN ride 50 miles at 19mph is in pretty good shape. I would worry more about an individual who doesn't do anything as more of a medical risk.
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Again, I asked you to provide a source for your claim that "80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike."
You haven't been able to answer my simple question and instead continue to only offer your opinion. Now you're attempting to change the discussion to whether a "large webbed seat is far more comfortable than a tiny saddle."
To answer your new question, let me use an analogy that shows just how meaningless your previous "80%" claim is:
A Barcalounger is more comfortable than a bar stool. That does not mean that 80% of the people that sit on bar stools are in pain.
You haven't been able to answer my simple question and instead continue to only offer your opinion. Now you're attempting to change the discussion to whether a "large webbed seat is far more comfortable than a tiny saddle."
To answer your new question, let me use an analogy that shows just how meaningless your previous "80%" claim is:
A Barcalounger is more comfortable than a bar stool. That does not mean that 80% of the people that sit on bar stools are in pain.
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Have you ever considered the possibility, however remote, that some folks might prefer to ride a "conventional" bicycle because they find it, overall (which includes hill climbing in states with 3D topography), to be more comfortable?
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Almost as sad as just making up a fake statistic ("80% or more of cyclists are in pain due to their bike') and then being too much of a coward to admit that you have no proof.
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I think part of the reason a recumbent bike is a popular choice among some is because it's still unusual... although not really a new thing like ebikes, they're still, a niche market -- like ebikes and folders -- that perhaps could take off some day but unlike ebikes, probably not.
700c road bikes are a niche too-- just, a bigger niche. Roadies certainly are not a new thing and despite a long and interesting history, I think the same can be said about road bikers being a bit unusual, especially if instead of looking at all the categories, you just look at drop bar vs. straight bar bikes.
Drop bar road bikes have grown a bit from 2005 but still do not amount to more than ~20% of sales. A fifth of annual sales totaling mostly in the 17s to 19s (millions of units) is a big number but, MTB and hybrid/cross bikes each have higher shares. Comfort+youth+cruiser bikes come in at ~30% whereas...
Recumbents, 1-2% with ebikes at ~1/2%.
700c road bikes are a niche too-- just, a bigger niche. Roadies certainly are not a new thing and despite a long and interesting history, I think the same can be said about road bikers being a bit unusual, especially if instead of looking at all the categories, you just look at drop bar vs. straight bar bikes.
Drop bar road bikes have grown a bit from 2005 but still do not amount to more than ~20% of sales. A fifth of annual sales totaling mostly in the 17s to 19s (millions of units) is a big number but, MTB and hybrid/cross bikes each have higher shares. Comfort+youth+cruiser bikes come in at ~30% whereas...
Recumbents, 1-2% with ebikes at ~1/2%.
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Possibly for the same reason they don't put in recumbent-style seating?
Have you ever considered the possibility, however remote, that some folks might prefer to ride a "conventional" bicycle because they find it, overall (which includes hill climbing in states with 3D topography), to be more comfortable?
Have you ever considered the possibility, however remote, that some folks might prefer to ride a "conventional" bicycle because they find it, overall (which includes hill climbing in states with 3D topography), to be more comfortable?
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In fact deep pocket amateurs can ride bikes that 'exceed' UCI rules - and they don't have to worry about doping controls, either!
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