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Old 09-27-18, 12:27 PM
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Head wind.

Went for a ride yesterday and found I was bucking a good 5 mph headwind on the first leg of my four point compass rout. Figured I would have it easy on my trip back as it would be my pushing tail wind. Turned at the end point and headed back only to find that I was still pushing the wind in my face. As I turned from the east/west direction to my North heading I again found I was pushing air. It seemed no matter what direction I turned I was heading into the wind. Got a good workout but it definitely took the "wind out of my sails". See what I did there?
Be safe all, Frank.
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Old 09-27-18, 12:33 PM
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Old 09-27-18, 02:46 PM
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I distinctly remember an out-and-back where I fought a brutal head wind for n distance and thought "no problem - enjoy 25+mph on the way back". When I returned to that point, the wind had shifted 180 degrees and was again directly in my face

Maybe if I had left an hour earlier (or later), I would have caught a tail wind both times
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Old 09-27-18, 05:36 PM
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The wind is ALWAYS in my face, or there is no wind at all.
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Old 09-27-18, 05:37 PM
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That's like when I had to walk to and from school uphill both ways (in 2 feet of snow).
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Old 09-27-18, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Helderberg View Post
Went for a ride yesterday and found I was bucking a good 5 mph headwind on the first leg of my four point compass rout..................... Frank.
A 5 mph headwind is definitely a good headwind and 20+mph headwind is a BAD headwind. Too many days and nights with BAD headwinds here in SW FL so I'll take those good headwinds 24/7 and be -it.
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Old 09-27-18, 06:46 PM
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I find I have the same situation. I look at the weather before I leave the house and try to go against the wind. It seems that sort of works and by the time I begin to return home, the wind has also shifted to blow in my face. That gets really old, but I figure it is making me a stronger rider.
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Old 09-27-18, 07:03 PM
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5 mph hardly counts as a headwind. 10 to 15 is common along the Maine coast. In the warmer times of the year, the wind heads toward the ocean in the morning, and as it warms up, the warm air over the land rises and the cooler air from the ocean rushes in to fill the void. I always seem to end up with the wind in my face when I do a ride.
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Old 09-27-18, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mainiac View Post
5 mph hardly counts as a headwind.
Yeah, we call 5 mph, "calm." Having 15-20 in my face can be aggravating, mostly because I tend to watch the speedo and it's not showing the speed I want.
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Old 09-27-18, 07:49 PM
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If possible, I prefer to start with a tailwind. That way I'm guaranteed to have at least a portion of the ride with the wood at my back
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Old 09-27-18, 08:34 PM
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One of the coolest things to happen with wind is when you have a strong (20 - 25 mph) wind directly at your back and you're able to exactly match the speed. All the wind noise in your ears fades away, but you still the sound of wind blowing through the trees by the road. It's a really nice effect, until you remember that you have to turn around and head back home.
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Old 09-28-18, 01:02 AM
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Check graphical representations for the regional wind patterns rather than the simple weather forecasts that claim the wind is blowing in any one particularly direction.

In some areas the wind is often swirling around an entire region and rarely really blowing in one direction. Terrain and temperature differentials can redirect the prevailing wind for a region and make it seem as if the wind is coming from the "wrong" direction. Happens all the time on a couple of segments along my favorite rural route. In particular a roller coaster segment, an access road adjacent to a highway on one side and a mix of trees and open prairie on the other, often has wind that feels very different from anyplace else in the area. It's tough to get a tailwind assisted boost on that segment, while there are other segments along that route where it's easy to take advantage of a steady tailwind because the wind is consistent, not redirected by terrain and temperature differentials.

This wind map site, and the Windy app, are excellent for checking the actual wind patterns.
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Old 09-28-18, 01:31 AM
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Wait, was this in the bazarro world where the wind comes from every directing simultaneously? I'm inclined to think you compass must have been off?
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Old 09-28-18, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Helderberg View Post
found I was bucking a good 5 mph headwind
Um ... that's calm!! That's like 8 km/h. It's rare to have a calm day like that over here on this little island.
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Old 09-28-18, 03:20 AM
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Check out the wind directions where you are ...

Originally Posted by Machka View Post
I'm fascinated by this site:

https://www.windy.com/

You can look at wind patterns around the world and zoom in on your area to see what the wind is doing, and adjust different settings to look at different things.

I'm watching a typhoon right now, but also fascinating for me is the confirmation that Tasmania sits right in the middle of a massive wind pattern. No wonder it is so windy here. I'm guess that's the Roaring 40s.



This is also an interesting site showing wind patterns:

https://earth.nullschool.net/

Click on the word "Earth" for different settings, and click anywhere on the globe to see the wind speed for that spot. Use your scroll to zoom in and out.
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Old 09-28-18, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurt Erlenbach View Post
One of the coolest things to happen with wind is when you have a strong (20 - 25 mph) wind directly at your back and you're able to exactly match the speed. All the wind noise in your ears fades away, but you still the sound of wind blowing through the trees by the road. It's a really nice effect, until you remember that you have to turn around and head back home.
And one of the worst things to happen with wind is when you're climbing a long hill on a hot sunny day with a tailwind that exactly matches your speed. Zero cooling, you create a bubble of air around you with 100% humidity from your own sweat.

But 5 mph headwind all the way around a route? Double your speed and you'll have a 10 mph headwind!
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Old 09-28-18, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KraneXL View Post
Wait, was this in the bazarro world where the wind comes from every directing simultaneously?
The Astrodome. Fly balls would sail out on the infield air-conditioning and die on the outfield air-conditioning. The scoreboard always showed the wind on the field as '5 mph NSEW'.
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Old 09-30-18, 07:19 AM
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The only way to get stronger is to get up front and push wind....
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When I have a headwind all the way around a course, I know I'm doing well.
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Old 09-30-18, 04:53 PM
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The last time we had a 5 mph wind in Nebraska, most of us fell over. Now 30 mph, that's where you can really start training!
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Riding into headwinds is how we train for hills on the relatively flat bike trails of central Iowa.
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Originally Posted by Baldy1953 View Post
I look at the weather before I leave the house and try to go against the wind.
I thought us geezers all knew you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
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Old 10-01-18, 08:43 PM
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I wish for 5 mph winds. gets up to 20=30 mph here sometimes. I don't like it above 10 but will ride a little south of 20 mph.

Here is a neat little site for you. Shows wind patterns and speed graphically on a US map updated in real-time. Click on an area to zoom in and hover get the instantaneous speed there:

Wind Map

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Old 10-01-18, 09:34 PM
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Iíve had the same thing happen.
I donít gamble when having a day like that.

weíre both old(&good)enough to notice the effects
of a 5mph wind.

Next ride will be better
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Old 10-02-18, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Harumph View Post
The only way to get stronger is to get up front and push wind....
I'm glad you didn't say, "break wind." We'll have none of that in my group!
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