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Old 05-16-22, 06:37 PM
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50+ issues and their resolution

or workarounds, accomodations or just frickin deal with it. I'll start.

Hot young folks
  • close eyes

Diminished athletic ability
  • Train smarter
  • Change geography
  • Move to where you have no PRs

Frequent urination
  • Urinate frequently

Tinnitus
  • Loud music
  • Beer

Facing mortality
  • Increase risk taking since there's less to lose
  • Consider the alternative of this **** continuing

Becoming a curmudgeon
  • Cultivated young friends
  • Ride a bike
  • Drink beer

Body falling apart
  • Denial
  • Loose clothing
  • Drink beer

What you got?

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Old 05-16-22, 07:19 PM
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At 66 my mode is curmudgeon and my motto is "f em all".
Just survived a cancer scare and my motto is stronger than ever.
Ride 'til I die and drink beer.
FloMax has reduced frequent urination...brilliant !
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The drink beer workaround will lead to frequent urination.
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Originally Posted by downtube42 View Post
or workarounds, accomodations or just frickin deal with it. I'll start.

Diminished athletic ability
  • Train smarter
  • Change geography
  • Move to where you have no PRs

What you got?
Diminished athletic ability
  • Stop obsessing about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity
  • Better yet, do not ever start obsessing about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity
  • Laff at OCD types who obsess about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity
  • Ignore OCD cycling types who obsess about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity.
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Start enjoying compliments from the young folks who catch up. Do your best to ignore the implied "for your age."
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I concur with all of the above and will add:

Hot young folks:
  • sorry, gotta look

Keeping up with the latest & greatest:
  • start riding vintage steel more and show everyone what classic looks like
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I am 57 and rarely hang around with people my age. I think that keeps me feeling and acting younger than I would otherwise.

As for exercise, do what you can and what makes you happy. Nothing wrong with focusing on things like metrics, even if those metrics change with age. People are all different. Don't let anyone try to disparage your path.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Diminished athletic ability
  • Stop obsessing about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity
  • Better yet, do not ever start obsessing about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity
  • Laff at OCD types who obsess about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity
  • Ignore OCD cycling types who obsess about athleticism, "training," performance metrics, or imagined competition with strangers, regardless of the cycling activity.
To me, athleticism is a means to an end. My passion these days is randonneuring, which by design is not competitive and in practice is as competitive as one would like. It's an activity where one can explore the boundaries of what's possible, and strangers can be useful in understanding where those limits are or are not. I've been doing this long enough to feel the effects of aging, and to me those are effects are another challenge to face and explore. In my early 50's, I had athletic potential to spare; now in my early 60's I have less to spare. So all the things I've learned about training, nutrition, pacing, and sports psychology become more valuable; enabling me to continue doing what I enjoy. I'm not OCD, which is a disorder, but I do pay attention to details that may mean the difference between DNS, misery, DNF, and a hard but enjoyable ride.
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Originally Posted by Kai Winters View Post
At 66 my mode is curmudgeon and my motto is "f em all".
Just survived a cancer scare and my motto is stronger than ever.
Ride 'til I die and drink beer.
FloMax has reduced frequent urination...brilliant !
Be Aware that FloMax has caused Strokes in those above 70 y/o.
One was me.
Small Blood Clot in Brain.
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Can’t stay with the A Group anymore plus a big appetite
  • Ride solo and incorporate both meal stops and breweries into the routes
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At 66 my mode is curmudgeon and my motto is "f em all".
This seems appropriate.

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"50+ issues and their resolution
or workarounds, accomodations or just frickin deal with it..... "

Simply put -- I will soon be 72 years OLD and I OWN my age. I don't agree with the 72 years young crap and don't desire to be of a previous age.

Waking on my 50th Birthday and looking in the bathroom mirror I said, "You are 50, you most likely lived LONGER than you have left to live AND before you die you will be told "You have CANCER" so own up to life and death and get on to living the best you can and not just existing.

Still alive, have plenty of arthritis, have tinnitus have cancer and had a bilateral Orchiectomy as the First Treatment of my experimental PCa Protocol for GLEASON 10 PCa (Prostate Cancer). It's a full time job keeping Quality of Life the priority rather than Quantity when every moment is harder than the previous moment with a constant acceleration towards the final breath. I challenge myself knowing I can not perform as I once did yet try my best to fulfill the challenge. I've failed to complete on numerous occasions and accept what is because IT IS. I worry not about death and await its arrival and when Quality is no longer obtainable, the end will be of my choosing.
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Old 05-17-22, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by downtube42 View Post
or workarounds, accomodations or just frickin deal with it. I'll start.

Hot young folks
  • close eyes

Diminished athletic ability
  • Train smarter
  • Change geography
  • Move to where you have no PRs

Frequent urination
  • Urinate frequently

Tinnitus
  • Loud music
  • Beer

Facing mortality
  • Increase risk taking since there's less to lose
  • Consider the alternative of this **** continuing

Becoming a curmudgeon
  • Cultivated young friends
  • Ride a bike
  • Drink beer

Body falling apart
  • Denial
  • Loose clothing
  • Drink beer

What you got?
This brings to mind the great line uttered by Shakepear's Macbeth. "Too pee or not to pee? That is the question." The answer? If you are male and over 65, always "Yes!"
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Old 05-17-22, 01:24 PM
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We that have survived long enough to be a "senior citizen" are bound to have issues. I am now what I consider recovered from a bout of acute protatitis, but still on Finestaride to help the prostate to continue to shrink. Recently, I have gone up to 5 hours without urinating. That is life changing. I have chronic spinal and shoulder issues that are not going to go away, I have to accept the limitations, and deal with the pain when it happens. Ice packs and I are very acquainted. I think I am finally ready to fully retire from the working world. I have to watch my spending and just say no, need not want. Regarding cycling: I have learned to enjoy slow paced, casual rides; made adjustments on my bike fit as necessary, not as flexible or strong as once; sold some of the components I have been holding, that leads me to wanting to unload more; not so hung up on weight, speed or number of miles, enjoy the surroundings much more.
IMO, one of the keys to getting old: Accept that physical and mental deterioration is going to happen, but do not surrender to it. Stay active in your life. My idea of happiness is now more about contentment, being ok with what I have, and who I am.
I very much agree with OldTryGuy, I am not young, and have no desire to be so again. I used to hate "It is what it is", but it is so appropriate for so much. Age related issues certainly fit. Great attitude OldTryGuy .
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............................... I am now what I consider recovered from a bout of acute protatitis ..................
Pleased to read of your state of recovery. Remain vigilant and let nothing go unnoticed as a "just because." I NEVER experience prostatitis, BPH, frequent nighttime walks to the bathroom but instead passed GO and went directly to CANCER. Never be unaware for "ignorance IS NOT ALWAYS bliss."

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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
Be Aware that FloMax has caused Strokes in those above 70 y/o.
One was me.
Small Blood Clot in Brain.
Thank you for posting that.

Avandia may have caused my stroke, at age 50, but I also clot easily, so have been on warfarin ever since. Maybe I'll just continue to take my time instead...
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I’m back to working out at the rec center more often, as in weights, circuit training and maybe a bit of stair climber or spin bike.

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Hot young folks
  • close eyes (LEAVE ON EYE OPEN)
Diminished athletic ability
  • Train smarter (JUST TRY AND AT LEAST KEEP WHATS LEFT)
  • Change geography (MINIMIZE GEOGRAPHY)
  • Move to where you have no PRs (PRs WHATS THAT)
Frequent urination
  • Urinate frequently (GOT IT)
Tinnitus
  • Loud music (BACK OFF ON NSAIDS)
  • Beer (WATER JUST FINE)
Facing mortality
  • Increase risk taking since there's less to lose (EVERY DAY HANG ON TO WHAT YA GOT LEFT)
  • Consider the alternative of this **** continuing (BLESS THE GOOD DAYS)
Becoming a curmudgeon
  • Cultivated young friends (NO ONE LIKES A CURMUDGEON, EVEN YOURSELF)
  • Ride a bike (OFTEN)
  • Drink beer (WATER JUST FINE)
Body falling apart
  • Denial (FIX IT IF YOU CAN AND ADAPT)
  • Loose clothing (COMFORTABLE CLOTHING, COVER YOUR HANDICAPS IF YOU CAN, TED HOSE, BACK BRACE, FAT ROLLS, HEARING AIDS, CARPEL TUNNEL SUPPORT, AND ODOR)
  • Drink beer (WATER JUST FINE)

I would add to care for those around you. Some how it always gives ya a good return. I think there was a really famous guy who said something like this almost two thousand years ago... Ha
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Ānd the 82 Plus guidelines? Well, I am seeking medical Care three times this week. Make sure you have good docs.
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Cycling in your 80's is a massive achievement, huge KUDOs to you! I can only wish I will be doing the same.

On that topic, is there any good books on continuing to cycle as you age? I find there's a real lack of resources out there for how to train/exercise safely as we age, yet tons of content for the younger generations. That surprises me because we are a very large demographic as the boomers are now post retirement stage and us gen Xr's are approaching it.
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65 yrs old = prostate cancer - had it removed and had radiation.
66 yrs old = intracranial stroke - no cause and no lingering effects
67 yrs old = prostate cancer again - now in lymph nodes. Having radiation again. Stage 4 - gonna ride the hell out of the bike.
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Originally Posted by downtube42 View Post
To me, athleticism is a means to an end. My passion these days is randonneuring, which by design is not competitive and in practice is as competitive as one would like. It's an activity where one can explore the boundaries of what's possible, and strangers can be useful in understanding where those limits are or are not. I've been doing this long enough to feel the effects of aging, and to me those are effects are another challenge to face and explore. In my early 50's, I had athletic potential to spare; now in my early 60's I have less to spare. So all the things I've learned about training, nutrition, pacing, and sports psychology become more valuable; enabling me to continue doing what I enjoy. I'm not OCD, which is a disorder, but I do pay attention to details that may mean the difference between DNS, misery, DNF, and a hard but enjoyable ride.
You are speaking my language. That's exactly how it happened for me, too, 15 years ago. It's still that way, still good, still learning. I think learning keeps one young. "So little time, so much to know."
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65 yrs old = prostate cancer - had it removed and had radiation.
66 yrs old = intracranial stroke - no cause and no lingering effects
67 yrs old = prostate cancer again - now in lymph nodes. Having radiation again. Stage 4 - gonna ride the hell out of the bike.
65yo when also PCa diagnosed only I am a Gleason 10, only 5 out of every 100 men diagnosed with Prostate Cancer are GL10 so I went with an experimental NON FDA Approved back in 2015 and continues to be NON FDA Approved treatment. Plenty of new treatment protocols available and hope you are current with everything including the GREAT PCa Forums out there.

GOOD LUCK

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Cycling in your 80's is a massive achievement, huge KUDOs to you! I can only wish I will be doing the same.

On that topic, is there any good books on continuing to cycle as you age? I find there's a real lack of resources out there for how to train/exercise safely as we age, yet tons of content for the younger generations. That surprises me because we are a very large demographic as the boomers are now post retirement stage and us gen Xr's are approaching it.
BF has been more help to me than any other resource. It's real time and the science of aging is still very young. Books are histories. OTOH, if you're young, like in your 50s, there are the Friel books: Fast after 50, and Cycling Past 50. Things will continue to change as one's ability to recover decreases. I had a doctor who told me, "After you're dead there'll be lots of research published about how you did what you did. You're the first generation, the point of the spear." Not dead yet.

As far as "safely" goes, the only thing to be careful about is: don't keep hitting the high end as hard and long as you could when you were younger. If you keep that up, you'll get Afib in your late 60s or early 70s. That seems to be a constant issue with a simple fix: decrease high end volume as you age. Everything else seems random. Other than that, carefully directed hard work can fix almost everything that goes wrong with your body. You need to become your own PT. The youtube "knees over toes guy" is a good example of analyze/fix. Not his specifics particularly, just his method. It's constant - notice weakness/problem, fix same, revising training to suit.
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Cycling in your 80's is a massive achievement, huge KUDOs to you! I can only wish I will be doing the same.

On that topic, is there any good books on continuing to cycle as you age? I find there's a real lack of resources out there for how to train/exercise safely as we age, yet tons of content for the younger generations. That surprises me because we are a very large demographic as the boomers are now post retirement stage and us gen Xr's are approaching it.
There is a Facebook forum of hundreds of folks cycling in their '80s. Research has shown that folks who cycle regularly and push into their '80s can have the fitness level as measured by various tests of someone 40. A study of English bicyclists who rode 100 miles a week into their eighties showed amazing results. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-43308729 .

The online road bike rider has regular articles written by John Hughes on cycling as you get older and techniques and precautions.
I believe in multidisciplinary training which for me includes bicycling, swimming, walking, heavy resistance training, stretching and nutrition and monitoring things such as blood pressure and cholesterol. I have had one cold in the last 15 years. My wife at 84 also rides a regular two wheel human powered bicycle.

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