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Old 06-24-23, 08:41 AM
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Back to School!

Taking college Spanish starting this summer! I hope to; get my brain working again, socialize with new people, and prepare for a cycling trip to the Pyrenees next year (with my bud whose learning French). With luck and success, I'll be able to take 4 semesters of Spanish before the trip.

This summer classes are on-line, but in-class starting in the fall which leads to the Key Question: What bike should I ride to Queens College? A) The same bike I road to Brooklyn College in 1982, a cheap heavy Motobecane.

Super cool aside; the City University tuition per semester for non-matriculating seniors is $80!
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Having been in the Pyrenees I would avoid "heavy" at any and all costs. If your not there for the views and you dare the descents could be terrifying.
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Take the '82 Motobecane to class. I started a new job last year at 60 and bike to work parking my bikes in full view behind my desk. Two of the bikes are older than most of my co-workers which just adds to my smug satisfaction of 30 years of bike commuting, and doing it in my 60s. I doubt you could take the Motobecane into the classroom with you. But you may be able to bring a small folder into class, which would avoid the issues of securing a bike outside, although Queens College looks to be a bit away from any "Mean Streets".

I'd also vote for the Motobecane because you're still riding to class and that specific bike is a direct link to your earlier school commutes, so there's a nostaligia factor, but also again some smug satisfaction.

However, for the Pyrenees I'd also suggest something newer and lighter.

Buena suerte!
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“Dos burritos, por favor.”

My Spanish sucks, despite growing up in New Mexico, living in Southern California and Miami, and spending a season racing in Spain.
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Yikes! I saw “Back to school” and I thought oh no, here comes all those back to school ads and the first day of summer was just a couple of days ago!!! Good luck with your classes and the commute.
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Don't be too expectant on quick progress (in Spanish, not in biking). I am a similar age and have recently been brushing up on my high school German.. progress is super duper slow, the vocabulary just doesn't stick like it did when I was eighteen. I'm getting a bit better month by month though.
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Originally Posted by scottfsmith
Don't be too expectant on quick progress (in Spanish, not in biking). I am a similar age and have recently been brushing up on my high school German.. progress is super duper slow, the vocabulary just doesn't stick like it did when I was eighteen. I'm getting a bit better month by month though.
I expect a slog of rote foundation building, starting with forgotten grammar terms like direct object pronoun and indefinite article. Luckily I have endless opportunity to practice here in Nueva York.
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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
I expect a slog of rote foundation building, starting with forgotten grammar terms like direct object pronoun and indefinite article. Luckily I have endless opportunity to practice here in Nueva York.
Don't forget the value of watching Spanish language television (Univision & Telemundo being the most popular) although both of those are Mexican Spanish, not Espana Spanish. And with regard to dialects, see if you can find out what is spoken in the Pyrenees area, it might be a different dialect than true Spanish, maybe even some French thrown into the mix.
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You might have to learn Euskara.

https://www.etxepare.eus/en/what-is-...0in%20Euskara.
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Originally Posted by skidder
And with regard to dialects, see if you can find out what is spoken in the Pyrenees area, it might be a different dialect than true Spanish, maybe even some French thrown into the mix.
See immediately above.

There used to be a professional cycling team from the Euskadi region. Euskadi-Euskatel. The latter part was the name of their telecommunications company. One year, before the start of the U.S. Pro Championship in Philadelphia, a rider gave my then girlfriend his cycling cap.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Indy that's borderline cruel! 😉
I thought I was going to learn Spanish, only to find I need to learn English grammar. Direct object pronoun? Infinitive?
Ruh roh!
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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
Indy that's borderline cruel! 😉
I thought I was going to learn Spanish, only to find I need to learn English grammar. Direct object pronoun? Infinitive?
Ruh roh!
BITD (2000), I spent 7 weeks bike touring in Andalucia. I hadn't take a Spanish class since my first year of college (1984). Before I left for Spain in March, I bought a pocket sized dictionary and a grammar book and spent a lot of the winter studying. Things worked out well. Tha hard part was not making myself understood but rather understanding the responses. The nice part was that people were polite in return for me trying to communicate in the language.
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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
Indy that's borderline cruel! 😉
I thought I was going to learn Spanish, only to find I need to learn English grammar. Direct object pronoun? Infinitive?
Ruh roh!
Just wait till you get to subjunctive tenses...
You will definitely not be fluent after four semesters - but you will definitely have a better experience.

Euskara badakizu?

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This condensed summer class is very immersive with 9 hrs/week of class time and about 6 hrs/week of homework. Also, the modern curriculum is so much better at ear training than the HS french classes I took 50 years ago.
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Second semester's Final tomorrow! It's a lot of fun interacting with the kids, they're very good to the old guy. With one more semester I'll have a solid foundation of grammar and vocab. I'm talking whenever I get the chance, but not fluent. Still translating everything in my head.

DiabloScott , I'm there!

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