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Old 12-14-23, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jadmt
I know this sounds crazy but if I get the twinge in my chest I quick light up a cigarette....
We have evolved to vape.
Get with the times.
E-bikes could incorporate your stem lighter, or ... winter warming gloves?

thread relevant comment - smoking cigarettes is bad for one's FTP - over time.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
We have evolved to vape.
Get with the times.
E-bikes could incorporate your stem lighter, or ... winter warming gloves?

thread relevant comment - smoking cigarettes is bad for one's FTP - over time.
I have never vaped, I have just read too many negative things about it and I also think it looks stupid, there is no cool way to vape, but that is just me.
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It was a joke like your ciggy comment. And stem lighter comment. Emojis count.
roll on.
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I've got a long hard event planned for the end of April (just before I turn 66) and will be turning the clock back to when I did some serious training. I will be approximating FTP and set my training zones using HR as I did 20+ years ago. I have a question for those who once set training zones using HR and switched to setting and monitoring zones using power: When you switched to power, how much did the zones change? When you first did your test using a power meter, was your HR for each zone much different than setting with HR only? I probably won't $pend for a power meter but I have been thinking about it.
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This thread really got going places, huh. I'd add to Salmonchaser's post up there . . . It's not always just intensity that affects or causes ischemia, it's also time-related. I did a regular stress test, good score, except that I passed out on my rollers - after 45 minutes. I had to fight with the cardiologists to get treated - 2 stents. There's a doctors' saying: If you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Problem is, we're zebras, well, rarer actually.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
This thread really got going places, huh. I'd add to Salmonchaser's post up there . . . It's not always just intensity that affects or causes ischemia, it's also time-related. I did a regular stress test, good score, except that I passed out on my rollers - after 45 minutes. I had to fight with the cardiologists to get treated - 2 stents. There's a doctors' saying: If you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Problem is, we're zebras, well, rarer actually.
The "good" news is that, if you have a recurrence, you'll go in as a zebra because you're already a cardiac patient. I've come to think "cardiac patient" is like "diabetic" -- it's a trap door. Once you've got that sticker on your chart, it'll stay there.
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Originally Posted by Classtime
I've got a long hard event planned for the end of April (just before I turn 66) and will be turning the clock back to when I did some serious training. I will be approximating FTP and set my training zones using HR as I did 20+ years ago. I have a question for those who once set training zones using HR and switched to setting and monitoring zones using power: When you switched to power, how much did the zones change? When you first did your test using a power meter, was your HR for each zone much different than setting with HR only? I probably won't $pend for a power meter but I have been thinking about it.
The zones are different. Not a great analogy, but it's like measuring air temperature and air flow. Both are important to the heating system performance but they don't closely overlap.

I'm set up with 6 power zones and 5 hr zones, but my hr zones did not change when I got a PM.
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Originally Posted by Classtime
I've got a long hard event planned for the end of April (just before I turn 66) and will be turning the clock back to when I did some serious training. I will be approximating FTP and set my training zones using HR as I did 20+ years ago. I have a question for those who once set training zones using HR and switched to setting and monitoring zones using power: When you switched to power, how much did the zones change? When you first did your test using a power meter, was your HR for each zone much different than setting with HR only? I probably won't $pend for a power meter but I have been thinking about it.
You wonít regret getting a power meter. Among the best money Iíve ever spent. Can recommend the Favero pedals for flexibility and accuracy.
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I have the Favero pedals myself and they are indeed accurate. It changes the way you track your rides too. Instead of speed/distance you start looking at average effort in watts and time spent, which equate to calories burned. (avg watts * Hours * 3.6) Your average speed becomes somewhat irrelevant because of the stop and go, but watts are watts and joules are joules. Your HR goes with the flow.

I always wished I had a power meter when I attempted to climb Mt. Haleakala in Maui. It was a long slow slog up that mountain and the measure I don't have is the true effort expended. I didn't make it to the top but 6000' is still a lot of climbing.
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