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We need a beaten dead horse smilie.

You are absolutely correct but now you are talking serious stuff called "Giving Up Fun".
Will

Turning food into science won't do it. What worked for me was; More miles, less food. Try it.

Equating food with recreation (or, with pleasure, comfort, etc.) makes weight loss/management much more challenging.

I heard an interesting interview once with a young woman who'd had gastric bypass surgery because she was morbidly obese. She lost significant weight and regained her health, but had become depressed following her surgery. The reason was that for many years food had been her "best friend"...but the surgery took that "friend" away from her.

That said, I still love my daily bit of chocolate, and a good glass of cab with dinner (but at 6', 167, I can afford to indulge)!

Surely, you jest. How could it be that simple? We're on the fourth page of guessing, I mean science here and you're trying to simpify it by that statement. Shame on you.

Aha! I see now i had it half right. More miles, more food. The light has come on!

Me 6', 197 as of this morning. Now you make me feel fat.

You had it right all the time. Just face it- if you did more miles on the bike- And cut down of food- You would have to get a new saddle to cater for the weight loss. Running in new saddles is painfull.

One of the things that no-one has mentioned yet is the progression of weight as we get older. At 18 I weighed 128lbs. At 34 I weighed 128 lbs at 44- after a 10 year lay off to sort the job- the family and the change of lifestyle- I weighed 140 lbs. Kept at that for the next few years, but gradually worked up to 155lbs. Put more into cycling and lost 8lbs but that is what I am stuck at.

The change of lifestyle that many of us have when the family comes along- the pressures of work and a few other lifestyle changes- such as the wife learns to cook and you learn to appreciate good food, are going to affect you. I may not appear to have a problem with weight but 128 to 155- that is a fair %age gain, and that is for a guy that has always been active. I have someone at work that has put that gain on in a year. He will probably put the same weight on next year aswell.

At least most of us on this forum are doing something about it. I don't have to diet to lose weight- Just more exercise. Unfortunately there are only so many spare hours in a week so roll 2012- when I will be able to find more time.

I would be the perfect weight if I was 6'6". SSP, how can I grow taller?

Will your software help me do that?

There is no way exercising puts weight on. That would be like saying your car gets better mpg at 100mph than 50mph.

How about an 18kg weight loss in 33 days with a minimum 4000 cal daily intake, see this link.

https://www.wildworks.co.nz/csr/stats.php

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https://www.wildworks.co.nz/csr/photographs.php

Can't help you there, Denver...perhaps HGH?

As for the software, download it for yourself and see...there's a 30-day trial version, and since you already have weight records going back a ways, you could enter those so there's more history from startup.

The statement that exercise is good for the heart but doesn't keep the weight off get's my vote for the top 10 (fill in the blank) list.

My grandfather observed, when he was in his late 70's, that there comes a time where you don't care so much what it looks like as long as it still works. Having said that, he shaved twice a day and indulged in a splash of Bay Rum (not the drinking kind) every day.

Hey guys,
Regarding this weight loss thing: OK, I had no weight loss in the last 12 months. However, this 65 year old did 16.5 MPH on a trainer at 90 RPM for one hour at a HR 125 to 130 one year ago.
The same exact bike, same trainer same speed and RPM is now HR 112 to 115. I am pleased by that.
Also, I go all the time on this Limestone Trail. I had trouble doing 16.5 MPH average for 50 miles on that trail. Same bike as above trainer with 700 x 38 tires. Today I did 17.7 MPH average on that trail. I feel very happy about that too.
Yes, I did not loose weight. I ate recovery ice cream, indulged on wine, apple turnovers and good German dinner. Life is good.

Will.....that's an easy one: fat turned to muscle. Not always the pounds-- it's what the pounds are made of. Hopefully not spaetzle.

BTW...When are the pics of the new Madone?