Landis situation grows wierd
05-18-07, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Digital Gee
This entire affair is the direct result of global warming. Just sayin.
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Originally Posted by Digital Gee
This entire affair is the direct result of global warming. Just sayin.
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Originally Posted by Blaireau
The post you are celabrating -- about Merckx's impending pro-Landis testimony -- announces something that is not going to happen! Its kinda, like, you guys are living in a dream world....
Merckx is on the record saying he will not testify. He also wondered why on earth he was called to do so. Not really a Landis endorsment.
As far as the stage 17 "performance." I think the positive test for that very stage tell a slightly different story then the "tactics defense." (Not quite the Jack Daniels defense in terms of sheer siliness, but close I guess he's come up with so many, you can always pick and choose one)
Merckx is on the record saying he will not testify. He also wondered why on earth he was called to do so. Not really a Landis endorsment.
As far as the stage 17 "performance." I think the positive test for that very stage tell a slightly different story then the "tactics defense." (Not quite the Jack Daniels defense in terms of sheer siliness, but close
I guess he's come up with so many, you can always pick and choose one)
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Based on DG's latest route times, I'm certain he's doping. There's no other logical explanation. The new road bike (and cutesy "wish upon a star" avatar limmerick) are smoke screens fabricated by "his people."
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Originally Posted by NotAsFat
Then why do we even bother with tests, if nobody should believe them? We trash a rider's reputation and deny him the chance to practice his profession on the basis of a clearly botched test, and we don't give riders who test clean any respect for their accomplishments.
Maybe we should just declare the top ten finishers in each race guilty of doping and disqualify them. They either doped, or they beat someone who doped, so therefore they must have cheated somehow. It would be cheaper than these useless tests, and it would be as fair to the riders as the current system.
Maybe we should just declare the top ten finishers in each race guilty of doping and disqualify them. They either doped, or they beat someone who doped, so therefore they must have cheated somehow. It would be cheaper than these useless tests, and it would be as fair to the riders as the current system.
To enforce the doping laws, the idea is to at the very least penalize the riders who do get caught.
Giving up alltogether on drug testing does the cyclists and the sport absolutely no favors and, imho, is completely irresponsible.
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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
Based on DG's latest route times, I'm certain he's doping. There's no other logical explanation. The new road bike (and cutesy "wish upon a star" avatar limmerick) are smoke screens fabricated by "his people."
Careful, BP...my manager may be giving you a phone call. Just sayin. And denyin.
PS: my dope is caffeine. Really!
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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
Based on DG's latest route times, I'm certain he's doping. There's no other logical explanation. The new road bike (and cutesy "wish upon a star" avatar limmerick) are smoke screens fabricated by "his people."
Rogaine, Beta Blockers and preparation H.
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Originally Posted by maddmaxx
Rogaine, Beta Blockers and preparation H.
05-18-07, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bud Bent
Those Preparation H pills don't work for squat. I took them for weeks and they did no more good than if I had shoved them up my................. well, you know.
Got a 35 miler tomorrow and I guarantee I'll be doping: a mix of Starbucks, Advil, glucosamine, and Carters Little Liver Pills, plus Little Debbie snack cakes in reserve.
So sue me.
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Carter's little liver pills? What do those do anyway?
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I have no idea. But there are lots of them out there.
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Originally Posted by Terrierman
Carter's little liver pills? What do those do anyway?
05-18-07, 01:10 PM
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Yeah, son of a gun...
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Originally Posted by The Weak Link
I have no idea. But there are lots of them out there.
Does this obey all the regulations?
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Depends on which lab performs the tests on the pie.
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Originally Posted by Digital Gee
Careful, BP...my manager may be giving you a phone call. Just sayin. And denyin.
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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
I got "the call" last evening. How the hell did your manager know that when I was in Ohio back in 1967....oh, never mind.
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Originally Posted by Digital Gee
I have no idea what you're talking about. And by the way, I fired my manager.
He's working at my LBS now>
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Originally Posted by wobblyoldgeezer
35 miles tomorrow morning. 48 degrees centigrade by 6.00 am. Grapefruit juice and outmeal before. Gatorade and a litre of water every 10 miles during. Fuddruckers apple pie at mile 30. Soft pedal home.
Does this obey all the regulations?
Does this obey all the regulations?
It definitely qualifies you for something. And as hot as that is, it ain't no wonder why them Aye-rab fellers get riled up so easy. I'd be hacked off about everything, too if it were that hot around here.
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https://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12283.0.html
This is a pretty good editorial...not that anybody hasn't already formed an opinion about Floyd Landis.
This is a pretty good editorial...not that anybody hasn't already formed an opinion about Floyd Landis.
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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
https://www.velonews.com/news/fea/12283.0.html
This is a pretty good editorial...not that anybody hasn't already formed an opinion about Floyd Landis.
This is a pretty good editorial...not that anybody hasn't already formed an opinion about Floyd Landis.
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I understand there's an opening for Manager in the Floyd Landis camp. Wonder what it pays, and where one should send one's resume?
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I understand there's an opening for Manager in the Floyd Landis camp. Wonder what it pays, and where one should send one's resume?
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Originally Posted by Blaireau
It this your response?!? Just give up because, they all cheat anyway. That's pretty impressive reasoning.......Not!
To enforce the doping laws, the idea is to at the very least penalize the riders who do get caught.
Giving up alltogether on drug testing does the cyclists and the sport absolutely no favors and, imho, is completely irresponsible.
To enforce the doping laws, the idea is to at the very least penalize the riders who do get caught.
Giving up alltogether on drug testing does the cyclists and the sport absolutely no favors and, imho, is completely irresponsible.
By your logic, Blaireau, we don't need testing, because the winners are all dopers. They wouldn't have won, if they weren't.
