The New Bike???
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Time for a change.

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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
The New Bike???
Ok. I went in and ordered the new frame today. A Boreas Ignis frame that is aluminium and with C.F.Forks weighs in at 1515 grammes For the pair including the headset. This is going to be a top end bike and I have to start thinking about components now. First of all it is going to be Compact crank and thanks to a very ggod Deal- is going to be Truvativ. I have chosen Ultegra as the Rest of the drive chain and the wheels will be Ultegra as well. I have the training set for normal and comfort use. I have left the rest to the LBS with the Main consderation being Lighness with strength. Lightness being the operative word but I do not want fragility to come into the equation. The estimate is that the bike will finish up at 16lbs so should give me a quality bike.
So now starts the wait as it will be a couple of months before the frame is in. and hopefully another month before it is assembled. Hopefully? I won't be able to afford it before then so I don't want the shop doing me any favours in rushing the order through. The other problem will be that I now have to put the whole bike to the back of my mind- otherwise the Doubts will come in. Have I selected the right components? Will I be able to get up the hills on 34/27 or should I think about reverting to 9 speed and put an MTB 12/34 cassette and XTR derailler on? Am I going to be good enough for a bike of this quality or should I go to Wally-Mart and see what they have in stock.
Pic is attached from the website of a built up bike- but I am hoping to get a different colour to the one shown- They do a hard anodised finish that will be better for me than a painted version- + it is lighter. Ridiculous thing is that I l know nothing about this Manufacturer-The LBS build them up to spec for their customers and this is a Race bike. Then the 1 hour long test ride I did on the shop owners bike yesterday convinced me that I had to have this bike. Didn't take it up any hills but did get in 18miles up a few slopes- and I was using the big ring on his normal crankset. He is the same size as me and his bike is set up with Dure ace but he talked me out of the "Extra" expense as Apparantly- Ultegra is more sensible for someone that does not race.
Now to the cost-This is going to cost-a-lot. My idea is though that within a few years I will not be up on the Hills on the MTB- except for a few Enjoyment rides- and If I am going to do more road riding- I do need a better bike than my existing one.I could have gone for a top end "Manufactured" Bike but taking this custom build on a top end frame-I will finish with a bike that I will not have to spend another few $$$$$ on to get it to what I want. Final retail cost is estimated at around $3,500 to $4,000 but- It will come out a lot cheaper than that due to Discount and favours.
Whether I am making the right decoision- I will will you know in 3 months +500 miles.
https://www.boreas-bikes.dk/pages/ignis.html
So now starts the wait as it will be a couple of months before the frame is in. and hopefully another month before it is assembled. Hopefully? I won't be able to afford it before then so I don't want the shop doing me any favours in rushing the order through. The other problem will be that I now have to put the whole bike to the back of my mind- otherwise the Doubts will come in. Have I selected the right components? Will I be able to get up the hills on 34/27 or should I think about reverting to 9 speed and put an MTB 12/34 cassette and XTR derailler on? Am I going to be good enough for a bike of this quality or should I go to Wally-Mart and see what they have in stock.
Pic is attached from the website of a built up bike- but I am hoping to get a different colour to the one shown- They do a hard anodised finish that will be better for me than a painted version- + it is lighter. Ridiculous thing is that I l know nothing about this Manufacturer-The LBS build them up to spec for their customers and this is a Race bike. Then the 1 hour long test ride I did on the shop owners bike yesterday convinced me that I had to have this bike. Didn't take it up any hills but did get in 18miles up a few slopes- and I was using the big ring on his normal crankset. He is the same size as me and his bike is set up with Dure ace but he talked me out of the "Extra" expense as Apparantly- Ultegra is more sensible for someone that does not race.
Now to the cost-This is going to cost-a-lot. My idea is though that within a few years I will not be up on the Hills on the MTB- except for a few Enjoyment rides- and If I am going to do more road riding- I do need a better bike than my existing one.I could have gone for a top end "Manufactured" Bike but taking this custom build on a top end frame-I will finish with a bike that I will not have to spend another few $$$$$ on to get it to what I want. Final retail cost is estimated at around $3,500 to $4,000 but- It will come out a lot cheaper than that due to Discount and favours.
Whether I am making the right decoision- I will will you know in 3 months +500 miles.
https://www.boreas-bikes.dk/pages/ignis.html
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OnTheRoad or AtTheBeach
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From: Weston, FL
Bikes: Ridley Noah RS, Scott CR1 Pro
You guys are killing me. I want a new bike sooo bad and I am racking my brain to find a way to pay for it. So far I have:
1. Buy more lottery tickets - very very low odds
2. Stop at one of the Indian Casinos near by - low odds
3. Rob a bank - damn exploding dye packs will ruin my clothes
So far as you can see have no real solution to my problem.
BTW the bike looks sweet, especially with those wheels
1. Buy more lottery tickets - very very low odds
2. Stop at one of the Indian Casinos near by - low odds
3. Rob a bank - damn exploding dye packs will ruin my clothes
So far as you can see have no real solution to my problem.
BTW the bike looks sweet, especially with those wheels
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Hey stapfam, I'm happy for you, but looking at that seat, and those handlebars, I know I couldn't handle it. It's a beautiful bike, have fun and ride safe.
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Originally Posted by stapfam
Whether I am making the right decoision- I will will you know in 3 months +500 miles.
https://www.boreas-bikes.dk/pages/ignis.html
https://www.boreas-bikes.dk/pages/ignis.html
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#6
Thread Starter
Time for a change.

Joined: Jan 2004
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Originally Posted by George
Hey stapfam, I'm happy for you, but looking at that seat, and those handlebars, I know I couldn't handle it. It's a beautiful bike, have fun and ride safe.
And Stonecrd. I am in the fortunate position of Both my daughters having Bought their own houses in the last Month- The wife is working and The house is very nearly paid for. What else am I going to spend my $200 a week wages on?
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
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OnTheRoad or AtTheBeach
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Weston, FL
Bikes: Ridley Noah RS, Scott CR1 Pro
Originally Posted by stapfam
I am in the fortunate position of Both my daughters having Bought their own houses in the last Month- The wife is working and The house is very nearly paid for. What else am I going to spend my $200 a week wages on?
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The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard and the shallow end is much too large
2013 Noah RS
The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard and the shallow end is much too large
2013 Noah RS
#9
Roadie

Joined: Jun 2004
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From: israel
Bikes: kestrel
Originally Posted by stapfam
Ok. I went in and ordered the new frame today. A Boreas Ignis frame that is aluminium and with C.F.Forks weighs in at 1515 grammes. https://www.boreas-bikes.dk/pages/ignis.html
I'll be waiting to hear of a new John O'Groats - Lands End record in the near future.
Take care and enjoy
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From: Pennsylvania
Bikes: Pedal Force RS2, Canyon, Basso, Tommaso, Rock Racing, Schwinn, SWOBO, Trek
Great Bike. Can't go wrong with Ultegra any way you look at it. Both my road bikes have Ultegra and it is beautiful to look at and works flawlessly.
Good Luck
Good Luck
#13
I need more cowbell.
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From: Reno, Nevada
Bikes: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite
Originally Posted by George
After buying all the bikes I have, when I see something like this, I would like have one built for me.
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#15
just keep riding
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From: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Nice beer can. I'm sure you'll enjoy some great riding on it.
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From: Maupin, OR
Bikes: Used Marin MTB, New 6/06 Scott Contessa Speedster
Way to go! Yep, just put it out of your mind, and then enjoy when you get it! Can't wait to hear ride reports. Maybe I am needing a new bike also!?!
#17
Thread Starter
Time for a change.

Joined: Jan 2004
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Originally Posted by BluesDawg
Nice beer can. I'm sure you'll enjoy some great riding on it.
I am off soda at present.
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From: Texas
Bikes: Gold Rush, Moots compact, Bike Friday Pocket Crusoe
Congrats on the new bike. FWIW, it very hilly around here and I started w/standard road components. I ended up with a 50/39 compact crank and a 12/27 cassette. There are still a few hills around that put me on overload, however, for the most part, the rides are comfortable and I do not top out on the flats.
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just keep riding
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From: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Originally Posted by stapfam
Beer comes in barrells- Lager (Yuk) comes in bottles and Coke comes in cans.
I am off soda at present.
I am off soda at present.
Just yanking your chain. Looks like a great bike. Not what I would choose, but then, my ideal bike would not be what you would choose. Enjoy the bike.
But one real concern. Why let the shop have all the fun? Take the frame and parts home and build it yourself.
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From: Post-partisan Paradise
Bikes: GF Wahoo '05, Trek T1000 '04, Lemond Buenos Aires '07
I say get it. You will have at least thirty allies who will continually assure you that you did the right thing.
And alway express the price in Pounds Sterling, because the numbers are smaller. Or you could use Euros but the exchange rate isn't so favorable (or is it?).
And alway express the price in Pounds Sterling, because the numbers are smaller. Or you could use Euros but the exchange rate isn't so favorable (or is it?).
#21
Thread Starter
Time for a change.

Joined: Jan 2004
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Originally Posted by The Weak Link
I say get it. You will have at least thirty allies who will continually assure you that you did the right thing.
And alway express the price in Pounds Sterling, because the numbers are smaller. Or you could use Euros but the exchange rate isn't so favorable (or is it?).
And alway express the price in Pounds Sterling, because the numbers are smaller. Or you could use Euros but the exchange rate isn't so favorable (or is it?).
As an aside- Prices in the UK are a lot more than in the US- Except for the tyres at Pro-Bike for some reason. SO anything made in the US is going to be very expensive over here. "Made" might be the wrong word so change that to "Originating".
This frame is European and the £ against the Euro is pretty good at present.
Not certain on the prices of Bikes in the US but for around £2,000 this is a lot of bike. And that is me comparing up against the High end Treks- Giants and Specialised. I have just looked at a 2006 Giant TCR team bike with Ultegra fittings. Retail of £1800 but down to £1300---- For last years model. Plenty of parts to change from the standard and Would not have the "Bling" Of a Custom Build.
Barring the colour- Which you rather have?
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What wheels.......What wheels?
Very nice bike. As you are one of our more fit riders, I'm sure you will feel the difference. Besides, everyone lusts after a Ferrari at least once in a lifetime.
Your choice is much better than the Giant.
Must have pics of the real thing. Forget the garage door, British countryside looks better.
Very nice bike. As you are one of our more fit riders, I'm sure you will feel the difference. Besides, everyone lusts after a Ferrari at least once in a lifetime.
Your choice is much better than the Giant.
Must have pics of the real thing. Forget the garage door, British countryside looks better.
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Time for a change.

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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Originally Posted by maddmaxx
What wheels.......What wheels?
Very nice bike. As you are one of our more fit riders, I'm sure you will feel the difference. Besides, everyone lusts after a Ferrari at least once in a lifetime.
Your choice is much better than the Giant.
Must have pics of the real thing. Forget the garage door, British countryside looks better.
Very nice bike. As you are one of our more fit riders, I'm sure you will feel the difference. Besides, everyone lusts after a Ferrari at least once in a lifetime.
Your choice is much better than the Giant.
Must have pics of the real thing. Forget the garage door, British countryside looks better.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
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#24
The only thing that worries me about building a custum bike, like a Rivendell or something, is I would be affraid to get one I didn't like, or fit. I don't know that much about it for one, but even if I did, if I screw up, this baby is mine. So I guess you really have to do your homework. Or if I did have a bike built and screwed up, I bet my kid would take it. I know you've been riding long enough and know what your doing, and I'm just dreaming. Have fun.
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