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Old 12-16-07, 08:45 PM
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Iv'e traded in my C02 inflator

My wife and I went for a ride the other day and when we got to the trail both bikes had flat front tires. I had filled them both about an hour before we left home. Usually I put my hand pump in the truck, but had forgotten it. I put a patch on my tube and changed hers with a new one. I always carry two C02 cartriges in my seat bag, so no problem. After riding a while we stopped at a fruit stand for a snack. When we started to leave my wife had another flat on her front tire from a sand spur. I had only used part of the 2nd C02 cartridge and thought, no problem, but it had leaked out. Luckily a couple from Toronto came by and he had a small light weight frame pump. I borrowed the pump, patched her tube and we were off. When we got home I took the frame pump and bracket off of my mountain bike and weighed it on my sons postal scale. 6 0z. Then I took my C02 inflator and the two cartridges and wieghed them, 4.8 0z. My Litespeed is now 1.2 oz. heavier than it used to be.
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Originally Posted by RoMad
I took the frame pump and bracket off of my mountain bike and weighed it on my sons postal scale. 6 0z. Then I took my C02 inflator and the two cartridges and wieghed them, 4.8 0z. My Litespeed is now 1.2 oz. heavier than it used to be.

Hilarious. I've never heard anyone do the math like this! I guess it's the aesthetic of no pump mounted on the bike that's the big appeal, no?
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I have a frame pump and also carry a CO2, on my Jamis and just a CO2 on the Roubaix.
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A pumpless pump is even lighter than a frame pump.
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I tossed mine after the first flat. A friend gave it to me for Christmas, and I was underwhelmed but packed it in the seat bag. Turns out a 12g cartridge will only inflate my big tires to about 60psi, and at that time (several years ago) 16g carts were hard to find and cost almost $3 apiece at the bike shop. I went back to my 15-year-old Zefal frame pump and I've never been sorry.
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I have been carrying Zefal frame pumps since the early '80's.

I have never used CO2.

My pump works really well.
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Originally Posted by waytoomanybikes
I have been carrying Zefal frame pumps since the early '80's.

I have never used CO2.

My pump works really well.
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While I'm a Retro Grouch about most things, I still appreciate the convenience and speed of using CO2. I haven't pumped up a tire on the roadside for over 5 years.

In the interest of full disclosure, we don't have sand spurs or goat head thorns in the area where I live so I generally only get 1 or 2 flats per year.
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
While I'm a Retro Grouch about most things, I still appreciate the convenience and speed of using CO2.
Same here. When it's sub-zero on a ride and I have to change a flat, I really appreciate the speed.
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I've always been curious how you weight concious bikers feel about filling your tires with CO2 . . . what with it being heavier than plain ol' air?? I mean 'it is' rotating weight.

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I got rid of mine after I came across six riders of a local team on the side of the road waving me down. They had used all of the CO2 cartridges they had (as a group) and the tire was still flat.
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I can send my address to anybody that wants to get rid of their evil CO2 inflators.
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Originally Posted by dwood
I've always been curious how you weight concious bikers feel about filling your tires with CO2 . . . what with it being heavier than plain ol' air?? I mean 'it is' rotating weight.

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I always use Helium instead of C02!
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On our tandem we use the Mt.Morph pump byTopeak since they first came out. It converts to a min-floor pump. Great: 100 strokes gets us 100 lbs. of air in our 700x25 tires. Pump ain't free, but the air is! Works for us.
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I have one resounding memory of a mountain bike race where the leader was miles in front of every one else and got a flat. No problem and 90 seconds later and the tyre was ready to inflate. Out came the CO2 and it did not inflate the tyre. Out with a second cartridge and still a flat tyre. The rider abandoned when the field went past and no-one offered a pump. She would have been disqualified if any one had for outside assistance.

I'll stick to a pump.
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Originally Posted by RoMad
My wife and I went for a ride the other day and when we got to the trail both bikes had flat front tires. I had filled them both about an hour before we left home. Usually I put my hand pump in the truck, but had forgotten it. I put a patch on my tube and changed hers with a new one. I always carry two C02 cartriges in my seat bag, so no problem. After riding a while we stopped at a fruit stand for a snack. When we started to leave my wife had another flat on her front tire from a sand spur. I had only used part of the 2nd C02 cartridge and thought, no problem, but it had leaked out. Luckily a couple from Toronto came by and he had a small light weight frame pump. I borrowed the pump, patched her tube and we were off. When we got home I took the frame pump and bracket off of my mountain bike and weighed it on my sons postal scale. 6 0z. Then I took my C02 inflator and the two cartridges and wieghed them, 4.8 0z. My Litespeed is now 1.2 oz. heavier than it used to be.
I almost bought a CO2 pump this spring but the bike guy at my local MEC very strongly advised against it. Too expensive, too heavy and he promised that it would be sure to not have enough gas when I needed it most. I bought a small frame pump. Your experience proves him right and reinforces my decision.
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Hand pump= free air, more reliable.

+1 on the Topeak Morph.
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Originally Posted by RoMad
My wife and I went for a ride the other day and when we got to the trail both bikes had flat front tires. I had filled them both about an hour before we left home. Usually I put my hand pump in the truck, but had forgotten it. I put a patch on my tube and changed hers with a new one. I always carry two C02 cartriges in my seat bag, so no problem. After riding a while we stopped at a fruit stand for a snack. When we started to leave my wife had another flat on her front tire from a sand spur. I had only used part of the 2nd C02 cartridge and thought, no problem, but it had leaked out. Luckily a couple from Toronto came by and he had a small light weight frame pump. I borrowed the pump, patched her tube and we were off. When we got home I took the frame pump and bracket off of my mountain bike and weighed it on my sons postal scale. 6 0z. Then I took my C02 inflator and the two cartridges and wieghed them, 4.8 0z. My Litespeed is now 1.2 oz. heavier than it used to be.
So...you started out a ride with two flat tires? And you didn't check first to ascertain the reason for why they were flat? And you only had 2 cartridges for 2 bikes on a ride where sand spurs occur?

No offense, but that sounds like a case of pilot error...
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My junk drawer is full of experimental mini-pumps. I rarely use my CO2 inflator. I'm back to using a traditional frame pump.
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My junk drawer is full of experimental mini-pumps. I rarely use my CO2 inflator. I'm back to using a traditional frame pump.
There's a ton of crap mini-pumps out there, and only a few good ones.
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Still checking my mailbox for cast-off CO2 inflators.
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If you cast away your CO2 inflator, then how you are going to put out tire fires?
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Frame pumps on my road bikes. I carry inflators on my MTB. Mini pumps are worse than walking.
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What is the best mini-pump available? I would never desecrate my CF bike with a frame pump. It's a little snot.
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Originally Posted by RoMad
I always carry two C02 cartriges in my seat bag, so no problem. After riding a while we stopped at a fruit stand for a snack. When we started to leave my wife had another flat on her front tire from a sand spur.
If you're going CO2 and only CO2, you NEED to carry more than 2 for sure. I carry 4 for solo rides, and I'm still paranoid.

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