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McBTC 04-24-25 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by SpedFast (Post 23505290)
You won't be disappointed with the Corsa.

Both are foldable so that's good, and apparently (according to AI), while Corsa is not as puncture resistant as rubino, it offers a more supple ride...

McBTC 04-28-25 09:01 AM

Fyi- for those who desire flat-resistance in a racing tire (a consideration if riding, e.g., 25s), good to know rubino made the list...

https://twowheeltales.com/road-bike-...ad-bike-tires/

SpedFast 04-29-25 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23507999)
Fyi- for those who desire flat-resistance in a racing tire (a consideration if riding, e.g., 25s), good to know rubino made the list...

https://twowheeltales.com/road-bike-...ad-bike-tires/

I was looking at the wall of tires in my bike shed and noticed that I also have a Ziffiro Graphene 2. Very similar to the Rubino with slightly differing tread pattern. I rode my last Corsa until it literally started coming apart with over 7000 miles on it and never had a flat despite picking out bits of brown beer bottles on occasion. It wasn't even any good for the trainer which is where most of my smoothly worn tires end up.

McBTC 05-06-25 06:45 PM

To me, a racing bike is more upright than laid back with tires 28s or less and purposefully sacrifices a bit of comfort for more performance, i.e., more distance per hour of effort. The key is the amount of distance for a given amount of time.

ascherer 05-08-25 12:54 PM

I stopped riding tubulars long enough ago that I can't remember - 25-30 years? But I came across NOS rims when I was building my Paramount last year and put 30mm Corsa G2.0 tubulars on it, they feel pretty good but for sure softer than I remember my Contis from BITD. Another set should be arriving very soon for my PX10. My other bikes will keep their clinchers.

tlhart 05-11-25 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by ascherer (Post 23515866)
I stopped riding tubulars long enough ago that I can't remember - 25-30 years? But I came across NOS rims when I was building my Paramount last year and put 30mm Corsa G2.0 tubulars on it, they feel pretty good but for sure softer than I remember my Contis from BITD. Another set should be arriving very soon for my PX10. My other bikes will keep their clinchers.

Lovely tires… I’m assuming you’re referring to the Corsa Controls. Rode mine yesterday on an errand without reinflating beforehand. Amazingly quick feeling for only 35-40 psi.

And yes, they did ride very much softer.

Wildwood 05-11-25 12:50 PM

Quality time - defined by a son = Priceless
 
Especially when we agree on quality.
Out in the wild.
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ascherer 05-11-25 03:58 PM

^ Indeed, Wildwood. Nothing better.

ascherer 05-11-25 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by tlhart (Post 23517644)
Lovely tires… I’m assuming you’re referring to the Corsa Controls. Rode mine yesterday on an errand without reinflating beforehand. Amazingly quick feeling for only 35-40 psi.

And yes, they did ride very much softer.

I have the non-Control version. The difference with Controls seems to be herringbones in the side treads for, well control? Mine are smooth.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac9a83cc03.jpg

Wildwood 05-11-25 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by ascherer (Post 23517915)
I have the non-Control version. The difference with Controls seems to be herringbones in the side treads for, well control? Mine are smooth.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac9a83cc03.jpg

:foo: Pavement as opposed to pavement + light gravel? :foo:

ascherer 05-11-25 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 23517924)
:foo: Pavement as opposed to pavement + light gravel? :foo:

I think I read some marketing copy that it's helpful in wet pavé. My cobblestone days are behind me except for the hipper parts of Brooklyn and the West VIllage :lol:

McBTC 05-29-25 05:50 PM

Is cycling a good exercise? Article talks about the many physical health benefits obtained from 150 minutes on average a week. The article focuses exclusively on cycling in the wild as opposed to on a trainer, a distinction which I think may also provide mental health benefits not to mention the fortuitous benefit of living in a conducive environment and enjoying favorable circumstances (do you feel lucky?)...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...e/83810930007/

Greenhil 05-30-25 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23531571)
Is cycling a good exercise? Article talks about the many physical health benefits obtained from 150 minutes on average a week. The article focuses exclusively on cycling in the wild as opposed to on a trainer, a distinction which I think may also provide mental health benefits not to mention the fortuitous benefit of living in a conducive environment and enjoying favorable circumstances (do you feel lucky?)...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...e/83810930007/

In my mind 30’ on a trainer seems to take a whole lot longer than a 3 hour ride.

spclark 05-30-25 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Greenhil (Post 23531746)
In my mind 30’ on a trainer seems to take a whole lot longer than a 3 hour ride.

Funny that.

I can work an hour (or longer) trainer session into my daily routine several times a week yet it takes me vastly more effort and planning maybe to get in a two-hour outdoor ride once every couple of weeks, if I'm lucky!

Acquiring a trainer (wheel-on Wahoo) then making a habit of using it increased my cycling 'activities' 1,000% since last summer. Up until the weather changed where I am to make outdoor biking fun (I don't like being cold or wet, or having to wash my bikes after normal road useage) I'd logged close to 600 miles ridden, mostly to Rouvy. By comparison, even with better weather, my outdoor riding so far this year has been maybe 30-35 miles in three sessions of about an hour's length.

To the OP, I'd say yes it is good exercise riding a bicycle. But it's not everything proper exercise might be, at least according to some. Weight training also helps (something I don't do) and even walking briskly I believe does more to keep a body functioning as it should without the inherent risks of coping with vehicular traffic if you prefer road biking to biking activities where other risks predominate. Swimming's also beneficial while demanding more in the way of facilities, either indoors or out.

mkane 05-30-25 07:18 AM

Born in 1953. Getting out there 3x a week minimum. Don’t ride on weekends. I’ll walk instead.

mkane 06-01-25 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by spclark (Post 23531763)
Funny that.

I can work an hour (or longer) trainer session into my daily routine several times a week yet it takes me vastly more effort and planning maybe to get in a two-hour outdoor ride once every couple of weeks, if I'm lucky!

Acquiring a trainer (wheel-on Wahoo) then making a habit of using it increased my cycling 'activities' 1,000% since last summer. Up until the weather changed where I am to make outdoor biking fun (I don't like being cold or wet, or having to wash my bikes after normal road useage) I'd logged close to 600 miles ridden, mostly to Rouvy. By comparison, even with better weather, my outdoor riding so far this year has been maybe 30-35 miles in three sessions of about an hour's length.

To the OP, I'd say yes it is good exercise riding a bicycle. But it's not everything proper exercise might be, at least according to some. Weight training also helps (something I don't do) and even walking briskly I believe does more to keep a body functioning as it should without the inherent risks of coping with vehicular traffic if you prefer road biking to biking activities where other risks predominate. Swimming's also beneficial while demanding more in the way of facilities, either indoors or out.

busy for a old person. I’ve got nothing but time on my hands.

McBTC 06-05-25 11:58 PM

Cycling in New York– hard to relate!

Police are cracking down on cyclists in New York City https://www.economist.com/united-sta...-new-york-city

Classtime 06-06-25 07:31 AM

Paywall.
You must appear in court if you wear 2 earbuds, run a stop sign, or stop in a pedestrian crosswalk. Cagers just pay a fine and don’t have to appear in court. If the cyclist doesn’t appear in court, an arrest warrant is issued.

EddyR 06-06-25 05:15 PM

Well today was it was 85+ and i am 85 today. I don’ ride a lot anymore as motivation for riding is low . I feel well and nothing is stopping me healthwise. My vintage Schwinn Prologue is a great ride maybe better than my Paramount
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4248c11fc.jpeg

zippifish 06-06-25 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 23537307)
Well today was it was 85+ and i am 85 today. I don’ ride a lot anymore as motivation for riding is low . I feel well and nothing is stopping me healthwise. My vintage Schwinn Prologue is a great ride maybe better than my Paramount
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4248c11fc.jpeg

Happy Birthday Eddy.

Ballenxj 06-06-25 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 23537307)
Well today was it was 85+ and i am 85 today. I don’ ride a lot anymore as motivation for riding is low . I feel well and nothing is stopping me healthwise. My vintage Schwinn Prologue is a great ride maybe better than my Paramount

Happy Birthday!

79pmooney 06-06-25 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 23504338)
I rode 25mm tubulars (95/100psi) today. Vittoria Corsa with butyl tubes - and while they are not particularly supple, man … they really carve a turn on a descent.
Small frontal is always the goal. At some point that includes the tires, too.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ebf10de7f.jpeg

I love those Corsas. Vittoria finally brought back ribbed tread! They make who knows how many very workable cotton ribbed tread training tires BITD. With any label they were paid to put on. I never knew what I would get when I ordered from Palo Alto Bike other than they would be decent tires and serve me well. (Within the limits of Murphy of that famous "law".) Now that superior tread is back! In better compound (by a lot) and on a much better tire .


Originally Posted by mkane (Post 23531819)
Born in 1953. Getting out there 3x a week minimum. Don’t ride on weekends. I’ll walk instead.

'53! Another DDE baby here, same vintage. My biking has taken a serious hit as I realize I need to walk for ankle strength, balance and for as few falls as possible going forward.

And back to the Corsas. Now this story is from before I switched back to tubbies but it emphasizes what I love about that tread. So - I was riding a narrow rural county road on the backside of the hills south of Portland. No traffic going my way but a solid line going 50+ the other. A hot Civic? pulls out from the end of that line to pass. Well, there's no shoulder, just a ditch. But! Just before the car arrives I come to a dirt farm road where they widened the county road about 2 feet. I pull onto it. The car passes me going 70? And I look up. Widened pavement's ending. Back to the ditch. A patch of damp sand just before the launching into the ditch. I cut the wheel over hard to (hopefully) climb back onto the road but this is on that sand. And the front tire just climbs up, no big deal. Rear the same. Even boring. Except my heart didn't think so!

And to this day - those are my all-time favorite tires, better since they are now sewups and if I glued them right, they're never coming off, even if a farmer destroys them with a shotgun. (That was/is the driving force behind the switch. Coming off, not the farmer. I had an old clincher blow and come off going a little over 20 mph. That crash is one I never want to do again. I woke up with the nightmare of doing that going over 40 many times. Back when I raced, I blew tubbies going over 40 at least once. So uneventful I do not remember the where, whether front or rear or how many times. That one clincher experience will be etched in my core 'till I expire.)

And back to today's ride - humbling! Took my fix gear out to climb a local hill. (The bike in my avatar photo, designed for easy cog changes to reflect an aging man who loves riding fix gear, even uphill.) Left the house on a sedate 42-18. Got to the hill and flipped the wheel to the 24 tooth cog. Got over the initial super-steep stretch but had my eyes opened the next time the grade ramped up. It was obvious that one of three things was very likely to happen 1) I hurt myself; pulled muscles, knees ... or 2) I come to a stop and fall over; not having time to release my toestraps or 3) have a heart "incident".

So I stopped. Maybe 5% of the way up my favorite hill. Put the big gear on. (Really just to check the bike out - it had been a long time since I'd ridden a serious hill on that bike.) Rolled down then up and down the little bumps of the next couple of miles to get some heavy lifting training on my legs. Put the flat ground cog back on and moseyed home, quite humbled. This guy doesn't have the legs he was known for. Walking, even carrying real weigh up steep hills just isn't muscling a fix gear! I've got work to do. Next time I'll do that hill with my geared bike. And do that plus ride the fix gear until I can get Jessica up that hill. (Jessica J, the bike I was on today.)

Jessica WILL conquer McCormick (McCormick Hill Road) before Labor Day. That's a promise from me to you guys and that gal.

sbrudno 06-06-25 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 23537307)
Well today was it was 85+ and i am 85 today. I don’ ride a lot anymore as motivation for riding is low . I feel well and nothing is stopping me healthwise. My vintage Schwinn Prologue is a great ride maybe better than my Paramount

I am guessing that the knees are not helping much with motivation. I have a few year to go to get there but it will come, it will come...

easyupbug 06-07-25 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney;...'53! Another DDE baby here, same vintage. My biking has taken a serious hit as I realize I need to walk for ankle strength, [color=#000000
balance and for as few falls as possible going forward.[/color]..

1950 for me and have been on bikes/trikes almost daily since 1953 (except when drafted) and can tell you all these are wise words from 79mooney. A month ago at a Diamondback/Dodge game somehow I fell, getting a concussion. I am riding again but am still dealing with dizziness and lightheadedness if I look up, lay down too fast, get up too fast or roll over too fast. Fortunately somehow doing well on my bikes, no issues.

Trakhak 06-07-25 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 23537404)
. . . So I stopped. Maybe 5% of the way up my favorite hill. Put the big gear on. (Really just to check the bike out - it had been a long time since I'd ridden a serious hill on that bike.) Rolled down then up and down the little bumps of the next couple of miles to get some heavy lifting training on my legs. Put the flat ground cog back on and moseyed home, quite humbled. This guy doesn't have the legs he was known for. Walking, even carrying real weigh up steep hills just isn't muscling a fix gear! I've got work to do.

I rode a fixed-gear bike a few days ago for the first time in about a year, having decided back then that I'd experiment with sticking to easy gears for climbing, in the hope of avoiding surgery on my painful left knee.

(I'd thought about swapping out the sprocket for a larger one, but it's easier to just use my bike with a triple crankset.)

To my surprise, the strategy worked. No left knee pain now, or almost none.

The ride on the fixed gear was interesting. (Still on the 72" gear I was advised to use when I got my first track bike in 1964.) Plenty of climbs, which can't be avoided in northern Baltimore County. Knee was mostly fine.

But: honking up those climbs! By the end of the 3.5-hour ride, my palms were burning from manhandling the bullhorns, and the back muscles over my ribs were giving me sharp pains. Weird. And I could tell that I'd pulled the left quad muscle. It was sore for a couple of days.

Even at my advanced age, I still recover pretty quickly from minor muscle strains, though, maybe thanks to the fact that I've never been tempted to do any stretching or gym work. I know that there are people who swear by those activities, but I've always done fine without them. Horses for courses, I guess.

McBTC 06-08-25 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by zippifish (Post 23537323)
Happy Birthday Eddy.

Cheers!
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McBTC 06-13-25 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 23537560)
.... Even at my advanced age, I still recover pretty quickly from minor muscle strains, though, maybe thanks to the fact that I've never been tempted to do any stretching or gym work. I know that there are people who swear by those activities, but I've always done fine without them. Horses for courses, I guess.

What's worked for me is having a schedule. Having committed to it for several years, my growing appreciation for its element of determinism has been liberating. The schedule is to ride every 3 days, which makes it easy to calendar and over time it's been something to look forward to with more delight than trepidation. For me it has been an easy idea to stay with because I always feel better afterward and that's great aftersale.



EddyR 06-13-25 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by sbrudno (Post 23537405)
I am guessing that the knees are not helping much with motivation. I have a few year to go to get there but it will come, it will come...

Knees are fine after right knee replacement three years ago. Just enjoy other things . I do not have any health problems that stop me ftom riding. I enjoy rebuilding boat anchors. Anyone know what that is?
Ed

McBTC 06-13-25 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 23541849)
Knees are fine after right knee replacement three years ago. Just enjoy other things . I do not have any health problems that stop me ftom riding. I enjoy rebuilding boat anchors. Anyone know what that is?
Ed

Guessing... since boat anchors seem to be fairly bulletproof, something to do with the retrieval mechanisms (larger boats) for retrieving boat anchors...

Clint in KY 06-13-25 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by EddyR (Post 23541849)
Knees are fine after right knee replacement three years ago. Just enjoy other things . I do not have any health problems that stop me ftom riding. I enjoy rebuilding boat anchors. Anyone know what that is?
Ed

In the Ham Radio hobby Boat Anchors are old outdated tube type equipment that invokes a bit nostalgia to the hobby.


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