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McBTC 07-07-25 09:19 AM

Yep- 3 and 1/2-in floppy discs– about like a new car with carburetors... would go perfectly with my tractor-feed dot matrix printer paper... Jessica Fletcher was probably among the last to abandon her typewriter and adopt a computer...

McBTC 07-08-25 06:36 PM

Any math geniuses out there? I go for a ride every 3 days. Went on a bike ride today which was just 1 day after the last ride instead of the usual 2 so, a new milestone there but... if I change to this every other day routine... what's the percent improvement? AI says... 50%

spclark 07-09-25 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by McBTC;23558713...
if I change to this every other day routine... what's the percent improvement? AI says... 50%

AI... right.

There's supposed to be "too much of a good thing" I doubt AI acknowledges often if at all. My take is that, more may not always be better than enough, so I'd be hesitant to think 50% unless perhaps you're really fit and do your thing under any conditions you have out there where you ride.

Maybe 33%?

In any event, go ahead and try it, see what happens. I envy you your discipline that enables such a regular schedule!

SpedFast 07-09-25 10:09 AM

100% improvement. Trust me....

McBTC 07-09-25 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by spclark (Post 23558907)
AI... right...


Originally Posted by SpedFast (Post 23559144)
100% improvement. Trust me....

True, true... I can get both 50% and 100% mathematically but logically, only 100% it's something I feel down to the bone is the correct answer!

flan48 07-15-25 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23558713)
Any math geniuses out there? I go for a ride every 3 days. Went on a bike ride today which was just 1 day after the last ride instead of the usual 2 so, a new milestone there but... if I change to this every other day routine... what's the percent improvement? AI says... 50%

Every 3 days is 10 rides per month (30/3). Every other day is 15 rides per month. So 5 more rides.
therefore 5/10 = a 50% increase.

Best regards

I-Like-To-Bike 07-15-25 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23558713)
Any math geniuses out there? I go for a ride every 3 days. Went on a bike ride today which was just 1 day after the last ride instead of the usual 2 so, a new milestone there but... if I change to this every other day routine... what's the percent improvement? AI says... 50%

Improvement in what? Do you want to increase your total mileage stats? If so there will be a 50% gain/"improvement" in total mileage. "Improvement" in any other metric depends on what metric is to be measured.

Wildwood 07-15-25 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23557491)
... would go perfectly with my tractor-feed dot matrix printer paper....

I worked at a start-up for years that produced the first commercially available ink-jet printer to 'quietly' replace your wire dot matrix. Pic says Systems Industries, but we got bought/sold/traded a few times. HP had an inexpensive replaceable/disposable printhead with small ink wells. Ours was a better, more expensive printhead with large ink reservoir. However, out in the real world of regular, sometimes rough, office use our printhead needed to be replaced more often than anticipated. Being first is not always best when at the bleeding edge of technology. When Texas Instruments and Compaq Computer withdrew their offers the final slide was inevitable. I was Director of Manufacturing for the printhead. Anyone know Dr. Joe Werning?, formerly of IBM research South San Jose. Or Dr. Prakash Desai?

Farewell to: KonishiRoku, Systems Industries, Silonics, AndersonJacobson - whatever you wish to be called.
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McBTC 07-15-25 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by flan48 (Post 23563560)
Every 3 days is 10 rides per month (30/3). Every other day is 15 rides per month. So 5 more rides.
therefore 5/10 = a 50% increase.

Best regards

Correct! But, interestingly... looking at it from days on a calendar point of view, for instance, imagine starting on the 16th of a 30-day month with a ride every other day (2-day interval) beginning on the 16th and a ride every third day beginning on the 17th. The pattern will be that for every other third day period, it's 2-rides or 100% more when riding on a 2-day interval whereas, for the remaining 3-day periods, being no difference irrespective of the interval...i.e., just a single ride for the 3-day period. The overall average is 50% more rides but on half of 3-day periods, it's double the rides!

boomer58 07-20-25 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by DeadGrandpa (Post 23549191)
I'd like to address the most recent posters who either have had a crash or know someone who had a crash, resulting in major alterations to their cycling habits.

I'm 72 and I was forced (by health issues) to convert from riding two wheels to three wheels about 3+1/2 years ago. It was either that, or quit riding altogether. I can't afford to crash, but life without pedaling is not worth living. I have e-assist on my trike and it helps me keep up with my wife on her traditional bike. Since my conversion, I have put just under 11k miles on my trike odometer.

Honestly, I never thought I would ride a trike or need e-assist, but theI can still ride my 2 wheel gravl bike money I've spent on my trike has been the best money I've ever spent. I normally ride paved roads, but changing my tires to knobbys and lowering the pressure let's me ride the more civilized gravel on Forest Service Roads and rail trails without much discomfort. There are trikes with more sophisticated suspension than mine has, for those who need it.

I'm guessing that most members of this forum would reject the need to get e-assist or convert to three wheels, but if your life situation changes, you may find a solution on the path that I've followed. I find the experience remarkably similar to pedaling a bike, and it's definitely better than not riding at all. That's just my opinion.

I'm in a similar situation. Although I can still ride my 2 wheel gravel bike for my regular 25 - 35 mile rides, I'm going to be at a point where a 3 wheel trike will probably be my only way to get out on the bike trails. After several surgeries, another one this past week, and knee replacement coming in November, it's inevitable that is what is in store for me. I sat on a Catrike at a shop a couple years ago and it felt really comfortable. I'm hoping an e-bike is not what I will need. I realize that they are necessary for some people.

McBTC 07-20-25 03:49 PM

Don't know anything about'm other than reading about'm, but... I wouldn't put a trike in the same category as an e-bike...

Just my prejudice, maybe but– I don't see an e-bike as being exercise; however... certainly a purposeful option for someone going to work everyday and needing to get there by a certain time and not being able to afford a car... I see a lot of kids going to school on an e-bike... not everyone is expected to walk home after a day's school in all kinds of weather for a mile or two and for a latchkey kid or for the folks who could care less, an e-bike sounds like a good idea.

PromptCritical 07-21-25 07:57 AM

After a visit to the cath lab, I've gotten crazy serious about my health and have been listening to Dr. Peter Attia's podcasts after reading his book "Outlive". Really, really good material. He rides a Pinarello instead of a Colnago, but I can probably adjust to that. One of the data points he discussed is recovering from broken hips at our age. They are devastating to "all cause mortality" due to the loss of muscle mass and bone density from the bedrest. For example, at our age, it takes 6 months to regain the same fitness level prior to one week of bedrest.

Carbonfiberboy 07-21-25 09:02 AM

I've been riding with the same group for over 25 years. The group has become much smaller in the last few years! Amazing how few people have staying power, i.e. will accept that can't do what they used to do and so give up. Several of our riders have gone to e-bikes. E-bikes are getting a bad rap here. Our e-bike riders try to "push the button" as little as possible, mostly on hills. They can still get a 3 hour ride at the same relative intensity that they've been accustomed to using. That's a very good thing. As we age, our watts go down, duh. So the thing to do is to add a few electric watts to make up for what's not there anymore. One is still working at the same percentage of max watts that one used to ride. The key element is that one can keep riding for hours at the same relative intensity. One of our founding riders is 83. She's gone electric and is still riding with the group which has many kids still in their 70s.

delbiker1 07-21-25 09:08 AM

I am heading for the OR this Thursday, 24th. I had my right shoulder rotator cuff surgically repaired last October. It had been repaired previously in 2011.
This time, it never healed properly, I am now having a reverse shoulder replacement done. Prognosis is for wearing a sling 24/7 for 4 to 6 weeks. Then gradually increasing range of motion and strength. PT will start within a few days of post-op.
I will permanently lose some mobility, which has been very limited since the original injury on 5/28/24, from a solo bike crash.
I have been getting limited, easy miles on a bike, and, doing low stress strength and balance exercises . Going into surgery in good physical condition pays dividends at rehab time. I will have a bike on a basic mag trainer to help with the conditioning.
I am looking forward to losing all the shoulder pain I have been dealing with.
I am soon to be 73, and live alone. I have a brother here now, then a sister to be here 8/4, to help me with the recovery.

PromptCritical 07-21-25 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy (Post 23567945)
I've been riding with the same group for over 25 years. The group has become much smaller in the last few years! Amazing how few people have staying power, i.e. will accept that can't do what they used to do and so give up. Several of our riders have gone to e-bikes. E-bikes are getting a bad rap here. Our e-bike riders try to "push the button" as little as possible, mostly on hills. They can still get a 3 hour ride at the same relative intensity that they've been accustomed to using. That's a very good thing. As we age, our watts go down, duh. So the thing to do is to add a few electric watts to make up for what's not there anymore. One is still working at the same percentage of max watts that one used to ride. The key element is that one can keep riding for hours at the same relative intensity. One of our founding riders is 83. She's gone electric and is still riding with the group which has many kids still in their 70s.

Sure would be nice to find a lightweight 100-150w eBike motor........

McBTC 07-21-25 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by PromptCritical (Post 23568151)
Sure would be nice to find a lightweight 100-150w eBike motor........

Trek's Domane + ALR is said to have maximum continuous rated power 250 down from 350 from the originally introduced 2019 model. Seen the use of them increase exponentially since 2019 but in most cases it's usually a couple sitting upright on their balloon tire bikes doing over 15 mph... if I had one, pretty sure I'd probably lose the enjoyment I feel going that fast with a tailwind when I could pretty much do that anytime with a little auxiliary power and being a weight weenie wouldn't serve much purpose, let alone a racing saddle that's tough on the ischials. Might be fun enjoying a cigar while riding though (having a margarita in the water bottle)... could join a bike group and be the official draftee lead puller. Will probably open up the Bicentennial Bike Route from Oregon to San Diego for more riders (coast of Washington isn't that interesting).

EddyR 07-21-25 03:21 PM

Iam 85 and I am going in for day surgery this Friday on both feet for Mortons Neuroma . It is not uncommon for people to have this problem but most get it taken care of in there 50-60’s. Most of the time they will not do both feet at same time. Doctors
tell me I present as a 60-65 year old. My balance is bad and the pain in the feet make walking almost inpossible. But riding my road bike is easy. After my nkee replacement over three years ago I had a hard time getting on of bike . I had to lean against a wall to get on the bike. I kept at it and now it is just as easy as many years ago. Each person has to make up his own mind what he is going to do as they get older and then just be happy with what they can do.
Eddyr

McBTC 07-21-25 04:54 PM

That's a tough one... only had it on one foot long ago and only when I rode my bike. Very aggravating but a rolled up pad in a strategic spot relieved the pain and it went away I guess from wearing different shoes... back then it was cleated bike shoes (maybe too narrow and, went back to toe clips, also long ago).

Carbonfiberboy 07-21-25 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23568237)
Trek's Domane + ALR is said to have maximum continuous rated power 250 down from 350 from the originally introduced 2019 model. Seen the use of them increase exponentially since 2019 but in most cases it's usually a couple sitting upright on their balloon tire bikes doing over 15 mph... if I had one, pretty sure I'd probably lose the enjoyment I feel going that fast with a tailwind when I could pretty much do that anytime with a little auxiliary power and being a weight weenie wouldn't serve much purpose, let alone a racing saddle that's tough on the ischials. Might be fun enjoying a cigar while riding though (having a margarita in the water bottle)... could join a bike group and be the official draftee lead puller. Will probably open up the Bicentennial Bike Route from Oregon to San Diego for more riders (coast of Washington isn't that interesting).

That comes down to the question: "Why do you ride?" Many of us ride for fitness and the enjoyment of being fit and thus able to do whatever we want. Whether or not one uses some electrical help here and there is immaterial. The idea is still to get your HR up and work your legs. It comes down to a question of character.

For instance, my wife and I ride a tandem. We used to ride our singles, but if we rode together, I didn't get the workout I wanted, so we bought a used tandem. This is an analogy to having a helper motor on the bike. It happens that my wife will often outdo me in relative effort, as we can see by looking at our HR levels after the ride, even though her power is about 2/3 of mine. That's her choice. She wants to be strong, and she is strong, and she got that way on purpose. We went for a day hike in the mountains today. I wore ~25 lb. pack to even things out so we both got about the same workout. Same thing.

That said, there is a rider in our group who uses an electric bike. He will turn up the electric specifically to pass folks who are not electric. He gets no respect and people talk about it behind his back. The older woman who uses an ebike works hard and usually comes in last. She gets respect big time.

Classtime 07-26-25 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by McBTC (Post 23558713)
Any math geniuses out there? I go for a ride every 3 days. Went on a bike ride today which was just 1 day after the last ride instead of the usual 2 so, a new milestone there but... if I change to this every other day routine... what's the percent improvement? AI says... 50%

3 days per week is a maintenance program. I like to ride more than that because I like to pretend I’m training.

Greenhil 07-27-25 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by Classtime (Post 23571289)
3 days per week is a maintenance program. I like to ride more than that because I like to pretend I’m training.

Wouldn’t the kind of rides you’re doing play a role in this?

Classtime 07-27-25 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Greenhil (Post 23571818)
Wouldn’t the kind of rides you’re doing play a role in this?

I’m assuming the poster I quoted is riding a few miles in zones 1 and maybe 2 since they just recently went for their first ride with only one day rest between it and the previous one. In general, “excercise” 3 days a week is maintenance. 3 days a week of HIIT, or increasing the distance/effort with each ride leads to adaptations.

Wildwood 07-31-25 07:42 PM

I pose a question to this astute group
 
Maybe I should start a thread - in 50+ forum - Is this the definition of MAMIL?
I grabbed a comfortable jersey and bibs, maybe without thinking…? That’s easy…., eh?!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...675914566.jpeg

SpedFast 07-31-25 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 23575401)

Yep!

Trakhak 08-01-25 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 23575401)
Maybe I should start a thread - in 50+ forum - Is this the definition of MAMIL?
I grabbed a comfortable jersey and bibs, maybe without thinking…? That’s easy…., eh?!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...675914566.jpeg

You and I have to face it: we're OMIL now.

Reminds me of a Bike Forums post from some years ago that began, "Now that I'm 68 and rapidly approaching middle age . . ."

McBTC 08-01-25 09:20 AM

How about OMILCS – Old Men In Legacy Chamois Shorts...?

Carbonfiberboy 08-01-25 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=Wildwood;23575401]Maybe I should start a thread - in 50+ forum - Is this the definition of MAMIL?
I grabbed a comfortable jersey and bibs, maybe without thinking…? That’s easy…., eh?![QUOTE]Looking really good. I didn't ride RAMROD this year, just volunteered to help at the finish line. Bibs are numbered in order of age, 1 being the oldest. #2 this year was 80, came in way, way before a lot of quite young riders. You might think of giving it a try next year. Only ~154 miles and ~10,000'. One has to pre-register and then there's a lottery. Only 800 riders allowed. The route is quite lovely. Next year's course should be the same as the 2024 one, run on 9/3/26.. 5 AM start, course closes at 8:00 PM. REDMOND CYCLING CLUB

McBTC 08-01-25 10:10 AM

The crew of the International Space Station (ISS) circles the Earth In about the time it takes me to bike my usual route... ~90 min.

Wildwood 08-03-25 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=Carbonfiberboy;23575680][QUOTE=Wildwood;23575401]Maybe I should start a thread - in 50+ forum - Is this the definition of MAMIL?
I grabbed a comfortable jersey and bibs, maybe without thinking…? That’s easy…., eh?!


Bibs are numbered in order of age, 1 being the oldest. #2 this year was 80, came in way, way before a lot of quite young riders. You might think of giving it a try next year. Only ~154 miles and ~10,000'.
Only in my nightmares would I dare attempt RAMROD.
2 hours in the saddle kinda tests the limit of my enjoyment. 4 hours (with breaks) if friends are around or a metric century.
Results Matter - for me that means waking up every day and feeling my best. A day after RAMROD would be beyond brutal. Would much rather be an OMIL who rides 3-5 times a week, ~100mi, 40 weeks/year until I die. That's my best possible result and actively working to make it matter. :lol:

QUOTE [You and I have to face it: we're OMIL now.]QUOTE
Fine by me.



McBTC 08-04-25 11:34 PM

Don't know how many this may apply to now or in the future but if you notice a problem shifting gears on the cluster where certain gears develop a tendency to want to hop to the next larger cog, the issue may be a bent derailleur hanger and if so it's simple $25 fix. The bike shop has a special tool for that. I've got an aluminum road bike and the derailleur hanger is integrated into the rear dropout. It looks very beefy compared to the wall thickness of aluminum tubing but apparently it's made to bend so as not to damage the frame in the event it's exposed to some force or another. In any event, no amount of adjusting would've returned things to the normal operation I had become accustomed but a local bike shop took care of it (very simply too given such a reasonable cost).


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