Beef with Performance Bicycle
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However, I would be cautious about sending anything in the mail simply to get back at someone for sending advertising through the mail, or falsifying anything that uses the mail. The mail fraud statutes are very broad. I think sending something of no value, or false information in order to force someone to pay postage is probably within the scope of existing fraud laws. I am sure the usual up to X months in jail and Y thousands of dollars in fines are specified somewhere.
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Basic misunderstanding: Performance Bike is not in the business to sell bike stuff, they are in the business to make money, and selling bike stuff is how they got their start. Like most any businesses, if they get the opportunity to make more money by selling cattle prods to shepherds in Outer Slobovia, they will do it! Credit cards are easy to make money off from, because there's no hardware to stock. They're probably paid per piece, by the bank, when they mail it. Supplements are another great money-maker - like cosmetics, they are dirt cheap to manufacture and the profit margin is just short of obscene (IMHO.)
I suspect in this case they're outsourcing this whole credit card scam deal and are just posting their name on the card but this just seems so much more like something a financial institution should promote. Not a company that is supposed to be cycling based. Why not alter and remarket their Performance membership program-and really make it something of value??? Or is this an indicator that their decision to expand too fast in too many markets has not been as good as they thought?
I apologize for the earlier comparison to Wal Mart......Performance is not low price.
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But what makes you think that the one or two personal letters a month subsidizes the pounds of bulk mail received a week?
What makes you think that the 82 cents in first class postage subsidizes the delivery of all of the business mail that is delivered in the same time, as opposed to the infrastructure to handle the pounds of business mail facilitating keeping the first class rate so low?
What makes you think that the 82 cents in first class postage subsidizes the delivery of all of the business mail that is delivered in the same time, as opposed to the infrastructure to handle the pounds of business mail facilitating keeping the first class rate so low?
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The selling on of addresses may be one difference- but We have an "Electoral Roll" that lists name age and address of every person that can vote in the UK. Any company can use this to post anything they want to you. But Mailing out cost's money. Using the internet doesn't. The electoral role may not specify my buying habits- but it will tell them that I live in a certain "Class" area and that I own my own home.
If I just make an enquiry to a compny by Internet- If I give my E-Mail address- I start getting all sorts of un-associated Mail from all sorts of companies. I get round this by Typing part of the address in CAPITal letters and then it gets rejected by the spamming senders computers as a bad address. Or I enter the address as doug@ instead of stapfam@. There must be someone with doug@ that gets a lot of funny mail.
If I just make an enquiry to a compny by Internet- If I give my E-Mail address- I start getting all sorts of un-associated Mail from all sorts of companies. I get round this by Typing part of the address in CAPITal letters and then it gets rejected by the spamming senders computers as a bad address. Or I enter the address as doug@ instead of stapfam@. There must be someone with doug@ that gets a lot of funny mail.