Spare Tire?
#1
Specialized Sirrus LTD
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 72
Bikes: Secialized Sirrus Ltd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Spare Tire?
No! not the one around my midsection! I use Specialized Armadillo tires which have the huge advantage of being virtually puncture proof. They also have a huge disadvantage which is that they are virtually impossible to get on a rim using tire levers. I am racking up the miles without any flats so far but it is too soon to replace my current tires. I am considering carrying a Hutchinson folding tire with a Kevlar bead weighing 210 grams, along with an inner tube so that if I do get a flat I wont have to struggle trying to get the Armadillo back on the rim. Anyone else carry a spare tire with them.
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: St Peters, Missouri
Posts: 30,225
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1572 Post(s)
Liked 643 Times
in
364 Posts
Have you ever installed a folding tire onto a rim?
Once they've been on the rim and inflated so that they have some shape they're not so bad. Brand new ones, which are folded up conveniently to carry, are a PITA the first time you install it onto a rim. I think they're lots harder than Armadillos.
Once they've been on the rim and inflated so that they have some shape they're not so bad. Brand new ones, which are folded up conveniently to carry, are a PITA the first time you install it onto a rim. I think they're lots harder than Armadillos.
#3
Specialized Sirrus LTD
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 72
Bikes: Secialized Sirrus Ltd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Have you ever installed a folding tire onto a rim?
Once they've been on the rim and inflated so that they have some shape they're not so bad. Brand new ones, which are folded up conveniently to carry, are a PITA the first time you install it onto a rim. I think they're lots harder than Armadillos.
Once they've been on the rim and inflated so that they have some shape they're not so bad. Brand new ones, which are folded up conveniently to carry, are a PITA the first time you install it onto a rim. I think they're lots harder than Armadillos.
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
2 Posts
Yes.
__________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
#5
Lincoln, CA
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Lincoln, CA
Posts: 2,229
Bikes: 94 Giant ATX 760, 2001 Biachi Eros, 2005 Giant OCR2 Composite +
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
1 Post
Some of the guys in my group carry a standard tire, folded, under their seat bag, in case a tire gets shredded. None have ever had to use it.
__________________
Truth is stranger than reality.
'96 Giant ATX 760 MTB
'01 Bianchi Eros
'05 Giant OCR Llimited Carbon Fiber + upgrades
Truth is stranger than reality.
'96 Giant ATX 760 MTB
'01 Bianchi Eros
'05 Giant OCR Llimited Carbon Fiber + upgrades
#6
Sore saddle cyclist
I use regular Armadillo tires, the first installation is hard, but once they've been on the rim and ridden they stretch a bit and are not that hard to work on the road if you should flat. The second and third installation get increasingly easier.
I never carry a spare tire, a GU wrapper between the tube and tire will hold very well until you finish your ride and get home, I've covered some very big holes this way.
I never carry a spare tire, a GU wrapper between the tube and tire will hold very well until you finish your ride and get home, I've covered some very big holes this way.
#7
Specialized Sirrus LTD
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 72
Bikes: Secialized Sirrus Ltd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#8
Galveston County Texas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,222
Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1350 Post(s)
Liked 1,245 Times
in
623 Posts
I carry one under my Topeak rear rack.
3 spare tubes, patches, two pumps.
30 miles from home I had a rear tire with 2,800 miles on it, Snake on me.
Thump ,Thump all the way back home.
It had worned down to the threads by the time I got home.
3 spare tubes, patches, two pumps.
30 miles from home I had a rear tire with 2,800 miles on it, Snake on me.
Thump ,Thump all the way back home.
It had worned down to the threads by the time I got home.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"
Fred "The Real Fred"
#9
Biking to the Pits
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Posts: 106
Bikes: 1991 Rock 'n Road with two wheel sets, 1980 Univega Viva Sport with TA triple
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I haven't carried a spare tire since 1981. On tours I do bring a bit of duct tape, in case I need to patch a sidewall rip - but I've yet to use it. I'm lucky, careful, and use pretty good tires.
#10
Banned.
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 20,917
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times
in
10 Posts
While tough, I have no problem with Armadillos - on 3 different wheels.
It truly is in the technique. I have even mounted them with no tools.
Be sure you are keeping the tires edges in the center of the whell - in the dish.
It truly is in the technique. I have even mounted them with no tools.
Be sure you are keeping the tires edges in the center of the whell - in the dish.
#12
Specialized Sirrus LTD
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 72
Bikes: Secialized Sirrus Ltd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
It would probably be worth my time to practice changing out a tire over the winter. It has been 40 years since the last time I changed a tire.
#13
Time for a change.
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
4 Posts
Always carry a folder on the Tandem- but just don't bother on the other bikes. And that tough tyre to fit- I use a thick rim tape and that takes up the room in the well of the rim. It does make it tough to remove and fit tyres.
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
#14
Senior Member
Where and how far do you ride would be factors in whether to carry a spare. It would seem to me to be a bit much to carry a spare tire unless riding in really remote places on tour. I know that I didn't bother with a spare when I rode coast to coast and towns were few and far between on much of the route.
I have found that in most cases good technique is the key in getting tires on and off of the rims. Otherwise maybe carry a Kool Stop Bead Jack. I haven't tried one myself, but have heard that work pretty well.
I have found that in most cases good technique is the key in getting tires on and off of the rims. Otherwise maybe carry a Kool Stop Bead Jack. I haven't tried one myself, but have heard that work pretty well.
#16
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 7,384
Mentioned: 49 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 800 Post(s)
Liked 218 Times
in
171 Posts
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: N. California
Posts: 1,410
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
The Park Tire Boots are also worth carrying. Even with really high quality, brand new tires you can get a screw or nail go throught the bead and out the sidewall...Sometimes even through the rim! A boot (or the famous dollar bill substitute) and careful, low pressure riding will see you through an amazing amount of miles back to civilization.
#18
bobkat
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bismarck, ND
Posts: 746
Bikes: Modified Burley Koosah, Trek Navigater folding, downtube folding
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
The good thing about armadillos is that they rarely, in my experience, ever get a flat. In 3 or 4 years and about 4500 miles I've only had one flat, and possibly because they had been on for several thousand miles they were easy to get off and back on beside the road. I'm not even sure I had to use levers either.
#19
Specialized Sirrus LTD
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 72
Bikes: Secialized Sirrus Ltd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
The good thing about armadillos is that they rarely, in my experience, ever get a flat. In 3 or 4 years and about 4500 miles I've only had one flat, and possibly because they had been on for several thousand miles they were easy to get off and back on beside the road. I'm not even sure I had to use levers either.
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,489
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times
in
2 Posts
I carry a HeatMax Hot Hands 2 handwarmer in my jersey pocket on cold days. They can make fixing a flat much easier.
__________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
#21
Specialized Sirrus LTD
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 72
Bikes: Secialized Sirrus Ltd
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central Louisiana
Posts: 3,055
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times
in
3 Posts
I would recommend the Park Tool tie boot as well. A pack of three of them is about the size of a credit card, so they lay flat and require very little space. I ran over something, not sure what, earlier in the year, and a reasonably new tire was sliced open. I installed the boot and a new tube and was able to get back to the truck. Went and got a new tire and finished the ride.
#23
nashcommguy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: nashville, tn
Posts: 2,499
Bikes: Commuters: Fuji Delray road, Fuji Discovery mtb...Touring: Softride Traveler...Road: C-dale SR300
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I HAVE tried one and they work great. Have SMP on all my commuters and the Kool Stop mounting tool has saved more than one pinch flat, I'm sure. They stow away pretty easily in panniers, but are a little long for seat wedges. I keep mine cable tied to my frame pump and use side cutters to free it. Very handy device. Would recommend highly.