I hate shopping
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Time for a change.

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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
I hate shopping
Have a problem in that The only real shopping I do is at the LBS. Went down there today to collect some more Sealskinz socks as I only have 1/2 a pair at present and it is going to get cold and wet again by the end of the week. I got them free.
Mind you, N+3 came along at the same time and that was not free and the N+3 is only on the road bikes (Any one got a bigger shed?)
Giant FCR1--I know- not a real road bike as the FCR is an OCR with straight bars. But this is something that is a bit different. As you can see from the Pics attached and it is the Blue one. The pic is straight out of the shop with nothing set up or adjusted yet.
9 speed Ultegra Brifters with a compact crank- and I don't know what type that is or what size the small ring is. 105 rear mech and a `12/27---or 28 as I don't know what size that is either. But this was built up for a customer at the shop and he cancelled after putting down a heftyish deposit on the thing- I got a discount and the hefty deposit taken off it.
But there was something about the thing that caught my eye. I'll be honest and let you know that I went down to look at the Defy Range of bikes---Only look mind you--- and I was not impressed. Good bikes but a bit heavy and the prices seem to have gone up a lot from the TCR range and definitely on the OCR's. A comfort bike with straight bars is not in my reckoning at present but I did look at a couple of other bikes- A dawes that was just too heavy and a 3 year old model De la Rosa that I could have got a good deal on. But I was only looking- honest wifey dear-- and the owner mentioned that he could deal on this one. Sold- but how can I tell the wife that this is a bike that just wanted to come home with me.
I can hear her now- "How the H*ll can you ride 4 bikes- And where are you going to put it?"
Better not be the bedroom for a few days at least.
Several things I do not like- wheels being the main one but they can go as a spare set up on the wall of the shed. Have a set of Good wheels that can go on it for now. That saddle may have to be changed but I took it for a test ride and up the 12% hill out of eastbourne. Climbs well and the brakes worked on the way down- what more do I want.
Mind you, N+3 came along at the same time and that was not free and the N+3 is only on the road bikes (Any one got a bigger shed?)
Giant FCR1--I know- not a real road bike as the FCR is an OCR with straight bars. But this is something that is a bit different. As you can see from the Pics attached and it is the Blue one. The pic is straight out of the shop with nothing set up or adjusted yet.
9 speed Ultegra Brifters with a compact crank- and I don't know what type that is or what size the small ring is. 105 rear mech and a `12/27---or 28 as I don't know what size that is either. But this was built up for a customer at the shop and he cancelled after putting down a heftyish deposit on the thing- I got a discount and the hefty deposit taken off it.
But there was something about the thing that caught my eye. I'll be honest and let you know that I went down to look at the Defy Range of bikes---Only look mind you--- and I was not impressed. Good bikes but a bit heavy and the prices seem to have gone up a lot from the TCR range and definitely on the OCR's. A comfort bike with straight bars is not in my reckoning at present but I did look at a couple of other bikes- A dawes that was just too heavy and a 3 year old model De la Rosa that I could have got a good deal on. But I was only looking- honest wifey dear-- and the owner mentioned that he could deal on this one. Sold- but how can I tell the wife that this is a bike that just wanted to come home with me.
I can hear her now- "How the H*ll can you ride 4 bikes- And where are you going to put it?"
Better not be the bedroom for a few days at least.
Several things I do not like- wheels being the main one but they can go as a spare set up on the wall of the shed. Have a set of Good wheels that can go on it for now. That saddle may have to be changed but I took it for a test ride and up the 12% hill out of eastbourne. Climbs well and the brakes worked on the way down- what more do I want.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
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#2
just keep riding
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From: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
I only see N+1. You had 3. You bought 1 more. That's N+1.
Which picture is the new one?
Which picture is the new one?
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From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Bikes: 1976 Apollo Mk IV, mid-'80s Miyata touring bike, mid-'80s Miyata mtn bike, 2007 Trek 6500 mtn bike, 2008 Trek Madone 5.2
N+3 Would mean you bought three new bikes at one time - which would be a good thing, too.
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From: Reno, Nevada
Bikes: 2015 Specialized Sirrus Elite
How the H*LL can you ride 4 bikes -- and where are you going to put it? 
(If you scroll over the pics, you can see that the first one is Bike 4, the second is Bike 1, the third is Bike 2, and the last is Bike 3.)

(If you scroll over the pics, you can see that the first one is Bike 4, the second is Bike 1, the third is Bike 2, and the last is Bike 3.)
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From: Los Angeles area
Bikes: Several bikes, Road, Mountain, Commute, etc.
While you can never actually have too many bikes, it is equally true that at some point (this varies) your wife will suffer from the illusion that you have too many bikes.
How you deal with this is what makes the real challenge!
Rick / OCRR
. . . okay, my wife has five bikes . . .
How you deal with this is what makes the real challenge!
Rick / OCRR
. . . okay, my wife has five bikes . . .
#7
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A noble gesture to help the economy is nothing to feel guilty about. Mrs. stapfam will be proud of you, I'm sure. Of course, a dozen red roses can be helpful in situations where words often fail.
I like the paint scheme. That blue color lights it up like a fine spring day.
I like the paint scheme. That blue color lights it up like a fine spring day.
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From: Sterling VA
Bikes: 70 Atala Record Proffesional, 00 Lemond, 08 Kestrel Evoke, 96 Colnago Master Olympic, 01 Colnago Ovalmaster, 76 Raleigh Gran Sport, 03 Fuji World, 86 Paramount, 90 Miyata CF, 09 Ritchey Breakaway CX, Bianchi Trofeo, 12 OutRiderUSA HyperLite
"you only need one bike" wife
"no, I only need one wife" me
then the fight started....
p.s. none of my nine bikes came from the LBS and I smuggled them all in a part at a time
"no, I only need one wife" me
then the fight started....
p.s. none of my nine bikes came from the LBS and I smuggled them all in a part at a time
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See my Hyperlite 411 it's the photo model on OutRiderUSA web page
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#9
Thread Starter
Time for a change.

Joined: Jan 2004
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
A noble gesture to help the economy is nothing to feel guilty about. Mrs. stapfam will be proud of you, I'm sure. Of course, a dozen red roses can be helpful in situations where words often fail.
I like the paint scheme. That blue color lights it up like a fine spring day.
I like the paint scheme. That blue color lights it up like a fine spring day.

Back to the bike- had a better look at it and Compact double of 50/34 and rear cassette of 11/25. Crankset is shimano and is an R4550 so don't know where that is in the Shimano Heirarchy. Wheels do not seem too bad for an OM wheel but the tyres are Kenda's in 700x26. Think they will go as spares as I have a set of Aksiums as spares at present and they are better than the OM wheels. Weight of the bike is just over 18lbs and Not bad for a basic cheap bike. But there are several items on it that are non-standard from the build that the prospective buyer had changed.
Pointless talking prices as we are more expensive over here. But with my discount and the hefty deposit that the original buyer lost on this special order- I got it for half price. The bike suits my needs- and is of a quality that seems right. And at that price- you can understand why it came home with me.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
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From: Small town America with lots of good roads
Bikes: More than I really should own.
My kind of guy.
During the last 6 months I have accumulated a set of Ultegra brifters, new bars and stem (" they just didn't fit the touring bike, Dear"), brand new triple crank, with a set of Ultegra x Open Pro wheels. I currently have the Terry saddle on the tandem but there is a Brooks hanging on the wall that will free up the Terry for a road bike.
Last week I almost "won" a 94 Paramount frame on Ebay. I need a faster computer as I was sniped out in the last ten seconds.
If everything works out all I really need is a frame and a headset and I'll be business for N+1.
Right now I'm eyeing a Trek Pilot frame, as well as an older 720 Trek.
Smuggle it in one part at a time.
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If you REALLY hate shopping I have a solution. Just send me the money that you would have otherwise spent. Problem solved.
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From: Central Louisiana
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A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
#17
just keep riding
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
When are you going to buy something different? Looks like you have the compact frame road bike pretty well covered. I think it's high time for some diversity.
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From: Seattle, Washington, USA
Bikes: 2009 Chris Boedeker custom; 2007 Bill Davidson custom; 2021 Bill Davidson custom gravel bike; 2022 Specialized Turbo Vado e-bike
However, would it kill you to get a nice steel British Audax bike with proper fenders (oops, mudguards) and a Carradice bag or two? A Bob Jackson or Mercian perhaps? Maybe purchase a Corgi to follow along behind you when you pop down to the pub for a pint?
It's time to start acting your age...
#19
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Time for a change.

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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
I know it makes no difference when you sit on the saddle and are riding- but I did have a conventional frame- Twice in fact. A Raleigh "Pro-Race" that was a 58 cm frame and all the time I was riding- it was fine. And the other was a mountain bike in my early days and I measured myself for a road bike and transferred the size to a mountain bike. Good job I had kids before I rode that one with the number of sudden stops I used to make on it.
And the mountain bikes- including the Tandem are all sloping tube/compacts too.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
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Thread Starter
Time for a change.

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 19,913
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
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However, would it kill you to get a nice steel British Audax bike with proper fenders (oops, mudguards) and a Carradice bag or two? A Bob Jackson or Mercian perhaps? Maybe purchase a Corgi to follow along behind you when you pop down to the pub for a pint?
It's time to start acting your age...
However, would it kill you to get a nice steel British Audax bike with proper fenders (oops, mudguards) and a Carradice bag or two? A Bob Jackson or Mercian perhaps? Maybe purchase a Corgi to follow along behind you when you pop down to the pub for a pint?
It's time to start acting your age...

And as for acting my age-If I did I would be sitting on the porch moaning about the the snow coming down as the glare is too much and why is my Ale cold- and is this Ale? Taste like lager and you know I can't stand lager- gives me wind and I will make you pay for it and----4 hrs later I might have worn myself out and be having the mid morning nap before I start again.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
Spike Milligan
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just keep riding
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Milledgeville, Georgia
Bikes: 2018 Black Mountain Cycles MCD,2017 Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen Drop Bar, 2017 Niner Jet 9 Alloy, 2015 Zukas custom road, 2003 KHS Milano Tandem, 1986 Nishiki Cadence rigid MTB, 1980ish Fuji S-12S
Not criticizing compact frames at all. If I was to buy a new road bike today, chances are it would be a compact frame, simply because that is what is mostly available. But I just wondered why stapfam would want four bikes of such similar design and purpose when there is such variety available these days. What about a cyclocross bike? Or an urban assault bike? Maybe a utility bike to haul gardening supplies around. But then, to each his own.
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Thread Starter
Time for a change.

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 19,913
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From: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.
Not criticizing compact frames at all. If I was to buy a new road bike today, chances are it would be a compact frame, simply because that is what is mostly available. But I just wondered why stapfam would want four bikes of such similar design and purpose when there is such variety available these days. What about a cyclocross bike? Or an urban assault bike? Maybe a utility bike to haul gardening supplies around. But then, to each his own.
But my main bike is Boreas. just on 16lbs in ride condition and an ally frame that reacts. That is not really a compact frame- but just a sloping top tube. But not a bike for wet or foul weather riding.
The OCR is now basically a loaner- but will be getting a Child seat on it in the next year or so (New Grand Daughter)
The TCR is C.F. and finally I have got it as a bike that works. Took a bit of time but is now the bike I will ride to save wearing out Boreas.
Now this FCR- I will be going to the mountains on Holiday in the future again so it is going to be set up for a purpose. 9 speed and compact crank so a 12/34 will be going on that along with the XT R.Derailler I have. So for a holiday in the alpes with nowhere to go but uphill- I will have a bike that will do it- and with that gearing- so will I. And it will not be as fragile as the TCR or Boreas so will take a bit of shoving into the MPV along with the wifes suitcases and the Cases of wine on the way home.
So 4 bikes- but disregard the OCR.
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How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.
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