The B-17 Blues
#101
Palmer

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I hope you didn't pay for that issue.
tcs
#103
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From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
So - do you think you might be interested in tradeing it for something that I have?
#104
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#105
That is just such a great word.
Say it out loud. Repeatedly. Try not to smile.
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#107
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From: Ann Arbor, MI
Bikes: 1980 Masi, 1984 Mondonico, 1984 Trek 610, 1980 Woodrup Giro, 2005 Mondonico Futura Leggera ELOS, 1967 PX10E, 1971 Peugeot UO-8
I use Proofide on my Pro and 17N Imperial, and it has a very minor effect on break-in, really.
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So I just got off Ebay to check out Brooks saddles. Questions:
--Would you ever buy a used saddle, or is the butt-specific break-in critical?
--Which of the many types of Brooks is the most old coot friendly?
--Would you ever buy a used saddle, or is the butt-specific break-in critical?
--Which of the many types of Brooks is the most old coot friendly?
#109
on by

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From: Wisconsin
Bikes: Bacchetta Giro 20 ATT, Waterford RS-33, Salsa Vaya
The B17 Standard Imperial would be the most friendly assuming by "old coot" you mean someone that rides more upright. I said it before and I'll say it again, anyone who rides more aero really would benefit from a saddle that has some perineal relief. Of the Brooks, only the Imperial provides this. The rest are a recipe for ED. As always with leather saddles, YMMV.
Good luck
#110
I have a B-17N... I don't have a lot of -um- problems with it but then I have it on my OCR C2 which has a more relaxed geometry. Not super upright but more than, say, the race oriented TCR (or whatever they're called now). I do get into the drops but not for a majority of the time. It seems to work fine.
By it new from Wallingford; they have a pretty liberal return policy.
#111
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From: Syracuse, NY
Bikes: 2018 Lynskey R 260 Disc; 2008 Trek 4.7 Madone; 2017 Framed Minnesota 3.0 Fat Bike; 1984 Nishiki International
Ah, B17N now up to a solid 8.5 out of 10. Has about 400 miles on it. Getting better every ride. I was almost ready to dump it.
#112
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From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
I've got a motley collection of "stuff"
105 areo brake levers.
Shimano 7-speed bar cons
Various derailleurs including a couple of bottom pull XTR's new in the box.
Welgo pedal and toe clip/strap set new in the box
Lots of other assorted small stuff.
I might even be willing to trade for a back up wheelset hand built by me. New Tiagra 9-speed hubs, CXP 21 rims, DT competition spokes, 32 hole 3X.
105 areo brake levers.
Shimano 7-speed bar cons
Various derailleurs including a couple of bottom pull XTR's new in the box.
Welgo pedal and toe clip/strap set new in the box
Lots of other assorted small stuff.
I might even be willing to trade for a back up wheelset hand built by me. New Tiagra 9-speed hubs, CXP 21 rims, DT competition spokes, 32 hole 3X.
Last edited by Retro Grouch; 08-26-09 at 08:03 AM.
#113
Let's stoke it up a bit! Recently installed a B17 on a new Cannondale Quick. I've only got aroung 200 total miles on the bike. Proofide has been applied twice. I was looking at the saddle today and noticed that sit bone impressions are alredy visible. For me, the saddle was comfortable out of the box. Only adjustments made have been to raise the tip of the saddle to cure some minor chafing.
Lucky me!
Lucky me!




Every time I rode on that saddle, the sore flared up. I replaced it with a Terry Butterfly which I love. I have no doubt that the B17 is a great saddle for many people; I wish I was one of them.
