cccorlew

This thread inspired me to ask my doc to check my "T."
I'm almost hoping it's low so I can then feel better by getting it adjusted.
Test was today. Waiting for results.

I guess if I'm normal I could always go down to the local gym and see what they prescribe.

Kurt Erlenbach

I've looked into it a bit, and decided against it. Adding testosterone increases the risk of prostate cancer. Both my father and his brother, my uncle, have prostate cancer. Another uncle, my mother's brother in law, died of prostate cancer this fall. I would love something to improve recovery time, but I don't think testosterone cream is the answer.

Tony N.

My doc says I'm normal for my age. What you tryin to say doc? However back to the discussion. Kerlenbach, have you heard of bio-identical harmones? Anyone?

Monoborracho

Testosterone? Try squats, deadlifts, and lower body work. Your wife will thank you.

Harmone replacement therapy.....not to be messed with IMHO. I am personally of the opinion that messing with harmones whether male of female is to ratchet up your cancer risk about forty-two notches.

xizangstan

Have any of you tried riding your bikes with a hard-on? I mean, even the best of Brooks saddles won't make that any more comfortable.

Shimagnolo

So exactly where are you riding your bike?
We need to know where the scenery is *that* good!

xizangstan

I used to enjoy the sights spinning around the lakes at Wash Park in Denver. In the summertime, there's a lot of good stuff up around Dillon and Breckenridge. Just saying...

Shimagnolo

I do most of my ogling on the Broadway bike path along UC Boulder.
I've fallen in lust many times there.

i'm paramount

You belong over with the Fred's-- Get a life. We don't need your kind over here!

xizangstan

AH-HA! Here's a real candidate for testosterone replacement therapy. Doc - we have an emergency case over here!

toddtone

This thread helped me identify a potential solution to problems I've been experiencing for at least three years. One of the things I learned through researching the subject is that "normal" total testosterone test levels for men are typically identified as a range of 250 - 850 ng/dl. Interestingly, this is the reference range for men between 20 and 100! Also, this is for a statistically accurate reference group - thereby including ALL ranges of health for the individual members of the group - that is to say healthy and unhealthy subjects.

So.....while my TT level of 423 is within "normal" range overall, the average for my age group is 552. Again, while 423 is in "normal" range, statistically it is closer to the average for an 80 year old man! Even more importantly, the 95% percentile of my age group is 866 (I'm 55)! So, armed with the symptoms I have been experiencing (yeah, pretty much all of them) and this informaton, I will make the argument with my physician that I want to be closer to the 95th percentile for my age group - not the 20th percentile. As I am in good health, I anticipate that the doctor will work with me to ratchet up my number. While I am usually one who doesn't like to jump on the medication bandwagon quickly, I see very promising possibilities to improve my life in many ways through T therapy.

Here's a link to the statistical data that I reference above, and it identifies the study from which it was drawn. It appears that the clinical study included almost 1,800 men ages 20 to 100.

https://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/...ls-in-men.html

Thanks again to the OP for helping me to get started on this journey. It truly has the potential to be a life saver.

Kurt Erlenbach

Todd - I've also thought a lot about this thread since it came up. I posted earlier that both my father and his brother, my uncle, have prostate cancer, and that another uncle (not a blood relative) recently died from it. What I didn't mention is that one of the last things the doctors tried before his death was removing his testicles to radically lower his testosterone level. That might have bought him a little time.
On the other hand, he was about 80, and I'm 54. I've beaten stage 4 colon cancer, and I fully understand the concept of cancer prevention. But as I sit here feeling whipped after a 130-mile week, I'm thinking, "Damn, I could sure use something to help recover better." Six months of T can't hurt, can it?

eja_ bottecchia

Andropause, or low testosterone is a serios condition that affects quality of life. Testo replacement therapy, however. may lead to increase risk of heart attack and increased risk of prostate cancer. Testosterone is a powerful chemical and anyone using testo replacement therapy needs to be checked on a regular basis. This is especially true for the over 50 crowd.

https://www.andropausespecialist.com/...e-effects.html

https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3475829/...sexual_health/

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/servic...t_therapy.aspx

Many of the symptoms of low testosterone can be dealt with by changing diet (stay away from soy-based products), exercise and weight loss. Being overweight is a HUGE no-no if you wish to improve testo levels.

Be healthy, be safe, be well.

i'm paramount

Todd,


You are exactly the type candidate as i was. You have done exactly the right thing in researching the T-Thearpy and along with your doctors oversight you will be significantly surprised with the results. The whole point of this thread is to become aware of your T-level thru blood test, make an informed decision as to your need to aquire a T-level that is normal for you and then enjoy the results of your decisions.
Congratulations !

Booger1

Adding testosterone at 70 years old,good luck with that.Good to know that doctors are smarter than 1000's of years of evolution.

Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.Hope you don't have any problems.

DnvrFox

What the heck does 70 have to do with anything? Could you explain that part of your statement?

I won't begin to try and respond to your 1000 of years of evolution thoughts.

Shimagnolo

So doctors also should not try to interfere with:
- Osteoporosis?
- Alzheimers?
- Heart disease?
- Prostate enlargement?
- etc?

alanknm

The cancer risk is reason why I declined to treat a low-normal T level problem with testosterone. While prostate cancer is not in my family, esophageal cancer and liver problems is. I've lost most of my immediate family to one or the other so it was a no-brainer. I've had to get an upper endoscopy done every other year now for the last 10 years (now upper and lower .. ugh). It made more sense for me to go on a program of weight loss and exercise. The weight loss issue became a more immediate problem because of a severe sleep apnea problem so I started on a campaign to get the weight off. I had ballooned from 165 to over 190 over a period of 5 years and while for some reason I didn't look fat I sure felt it. Between cycling and xc-skiing and a lot of fast walking, it's taken a couple of years to get the first half of the excess off and I've managed to actually keep them off so the next step is to get that last 12-13 pounds off.

The apnea problem is gone and I've been told that a lot of the other issues will mostly resolve with time as well as long as I get the weight off.

toddtone

I'm with you, Dnvr. Age is just a fr3aking number. We all deserve to live our life, and make decisions for ourselves. No validation needed or required unless requested.