I'm pretty sure that the UK never gave citizenship by birth; in fact it depended upon the mother's UK citizenship. This has changed since 1983 and the father's UK citizenship is also acceptable, but it's not clear cut.

See http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/

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If one of you is American, but not otherwise.

If you are looking for total cost of living, instead of just taxes, then that copled with the rest of your desires says Reno nv to me.

I live here now, and the climate is exactly what you describe in the valley. It gets snow down here but it's weird, it will snow to beat the band, and 4 hours later warm up and melt off. I think the longest time I have seen snow on the ground in the valley(roads) was maybe two days.

It doesnt get exeremely cold in the winters...teen and single digits are rare. I would bet. Last days highs in the valley are over 30 in the winter. In the summer it maybe gets to 100 3 days a year, but the great thing is it still gets in the mid 60s each night...so hiking, biking, etc are easy in the morning or late evenings all summer.

Its dry here, it rarely rains from
late June through October.

Does get windy in late fall, and most of the winter and early spring.

Outdoor activities are almost limitless. You name it, you can do it within an hour of here. In about 30 minutes you can be deep,in the sierras and easily over 9000 feet if thats your thing.

So many ski resorts I can't even name them all and the season usually runs from thanksgiving to mid April or later

Housing is dirt cheap right now, and taxes are coming down with th housing prices...it's still a buyers market.

Its big enough to have all the basic amenities, without having all the crime and traffic. You can get from one end of town to the other in 15-20 minutes most anytime.

Easy access to California if you want more than you can find here

Since you have no issues with jobs or schools,I highly recommend you check it out.

Lake level is 6200 feet...the passes of 50 and kings bury are in the mid 7k range with the mount rose pass at 9k

There is a Costco at the intersection of 395 and 50 in carson

Any other local info you want, let me know, or if you come up, can show you all the cool, off the beaten track places.

It is also not too far from Lakeview, OR where I was born. You have made a great case for Reno.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/09/...tes-to-retire/


"If you plan on retiring soon, New Hampshire is the best state to retire in, and Nevada the worst. You can stop reading now and save yourself some time, or read on to find out more about the latest of many such lists of the best and worst places to retire."

"Nevada. It has the second lowest tax rate in the country, but scored poorly on just about every other criterion. The state is third in the nation for violent crime. The cost of living is 105% of the national average and unemployment is at 14.3%."

To my knowledge, Daily Finance is not affiliated with Fox News.

Doesn' t mean Nevada isn't a great place. I've never seen Kentucky even mentioned as a retirement Mecca. No one wears shoes or gets dental work in this state, so cost saving are to be had here.

Nor, in my experience, do they walk, saving shoe leather.

You have no idea how much I envy you right now! Don't worry about the language - most Italians under the age of 65 speak English better than many Americans do - just about everybody studies it in school, and they take it very seriously because it's the international language of business.

When I was younger, it was my dream to retire in Italy. But now my roots here are pretty deep - kids, etc. At the rate things are going, though, I think my retirement home will be a little plot of land, 6' x 2', doesn't really matter where. :D

I visit Nevada frequently, Minden, Reno, Carson City. I could not live there. Although it is very beautiful, I am just not a desert person. Lake Tahoe is pretty but I worry about fires - those ridges have burned many times.

New Hampshire is very nice and I am considering it because we do have friends who live there and will probably stay there. But I am considering a few areas on the west side of the Tetons - Like Pocatello or Idaho Falls.

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I assume you are kidding.

I can only assume there's irony stuck in there somewhere.

Actually, I am not.

America offers more social mobility and opportunity than most of the world.

Sure, emerging economies are creating more millionaires than our country, but much of that wealth is the product of a very corrupt system.

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America has huge issues, but raising a family and making a living here is far better than most other places. Now that my children are adults and my career will be ending in a few years, I'm seeking a more relaxed pace of life.

I take it you've seen the stats on obesity and where Kentucky sits, so to speak ;)

It's an embarrassment if you ask me. I could stand to drop 20 pounds easy and I'm a lightweight around here.

However, there is hope. I'm proud that Loovul/Metro is spending precious taxpayer money fairly wisely. By 2015 there will be a bike travel way encircling the city and connecting a series of parks. It will encourage people around here to get off their butts. It's really a lovely area when your don't block the view with a large screen TV.

My stats are based on an admittedly small sample in Science Hill and Somerset and getting there and back. My wife's relatives and friends seem to have never walked a step if you could drive the car, and we went to one of those "all the grease you can eat" places for dinner. Other than that, my eyes were my observation data collection system.

Having been born and raised in CA and having traveled extensively west of the Rockies for both work and pleasure, I need to warn you that anyplace west of the continental divide is an arid environment. If not desert, then certainly steppe. There will be the occasional valley that supports irrigated agriculture and there is the humid sub-tropical coast in OR and WA, but most of the rest of the Wild West is arid, or semi-arid. There will be seasons pretty much everywhere that will have at least a few days with century degree temperatures. The saving grace is that the relative humidity is fairly low, (compared to east of the Rockies). Additionally, except for areas under the marine influence, winter nights will be cold. Winter snow is not unheard of in the deserts.

On the Nevada crime rate... It cannot be said that the whole of Nevada has a terrible crime rate. The demographics of the state are such that they are biased when Las Vegas is included. When applying rates in Las Vegas into a statewide average ... well, in this case, "What happens in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas". Most of the state is sparsely populated and has a low crime rate, per capita. Las Vegas is "sin city" in more ways that one.

Just a friendly reminder - political comments belong in the P&R forum. Let's not get this thread moved there.

Coming from the deep south, I would consider that (at least) a major incentive, not a warning. :thumb: :lol:

Although in general you are correct, there are some areas at higher elevations that seem to capture more rain as the weather crosses the mountains. These areas tend to get more snow in the winter as well. It is these areas I would consider as long as they are within an hour of a good hospital.

One place I am considering is Park City, UT area.

I haven't given much thought about where I want to retire to but my mother keeps thinking I'll move to Nova Scotia. Well, I just love it up there but I just can't see it. They have winter and area above the 45th parellel. I left MI almost 8 1/2 years ago because winter was beating me up so badly and moved south for very mild winters. When I moved to NC, cost of living wasn't much more than what it was in Central MI. What I didn't know was they tax everything, including my little retirement fund from Dow Chemical. My late husband's final gift in taking care of me was setting it up to transfer his retirement benefits to me. Besides, this state is just about broke. They give away funds in Medicaid because that's what the people want and I see alot of abuse of state funds. I call it the "entitlement mentality".

My aunt & uncle retired a few years ago and moved from Las Vegas to someplace in Idaho. I think it was an economic decision. Another widowed friend of mine just moved from NJ to Myrtle Beach, SC. She said she couldn't afford to live in NJ anymore. When she explained the cost of living in her retirement community, I decided I couldn't afford to live in NC either.

Since I have worked with the elderly population for the past 30 years, I can say access to quality healthcare is a major priority. Sometimes, I think our thinking is all screwed up. When we are younger and raising a family, we tend to live in towns and cities so they have the best educational opportunities and then, after they are grown, we retire and move to the country, way from those cities, just to get a little more space. Unfortunately, access to better healthcare systems tend to fall a little on the short side. There is nothing more frustrating then dealing with a rural area, call the high-tech teaching hospital, give a heads up at the local ER as to why I'm sending someone in (based on what the doc at teaching hospital instructed me to do) and have it all fall apart at the rural hospital because they didn't understand what I was talking about. I never thought I would say it but there are hospitals that are basically first aid stations and unfortunately, that seems to be where people retire to.

I think I'll just live on my own as long as I can then go live with one of my kids. Each one owes me about 18 years that I worked and supported them (just kidding). Penalities on early withdraw from IRA accounts go away in 6 months and 7 days. Eligibility for Social Security Widowed benefits open up in 1 year and 7 days. Soon I will have choices and choices makes a world of difference. I think I'll follow my mother's example and just continue to work. She is 79 and still works, when she wants to. I just can't think about retirement at this point in my life.

Obesity by state 2011:

http://chartsbin.com/view/562

Put your mouse on a state and the stats and rank will pop up.

I'd be shocked if Kentucky weren't dead last. I actually felt a twinge of remorse as I took a break, crossed the street, and grabbed some pizza not ten minutes ago.

On the other hand, we lead the nation in tobacco consumption.

I figured out why Colorado was 51st. It's the lesser air pressure caused by the altitude. Less air pressure lowers the weight on the scales, and VOILA!!

Mississippi gets the prize, but KY is gaining and almost near the top. It's the Kentucky Derby that does it.

The Monterey Bay area of California fits all but #1, but you said the CA coast was out. Oh, well. :)

I grew up in Marquette. A beautiful little city where winter sports dominate. Some pretty riding, but the riding season is short. Nice housing is actually fairly expensive, an not much else is cheaper than elsewhere. i am up usually a few times a year and miss the hiking, but mornings are cold (below freezing right now) and even the highs are chilly here in June (sometimes topping out in the 50s more likely the 70s though).