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Old 04-23-13 | 02:10 PM
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Geez. Sounds like I'm a halfwheeling sandbagger.
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Old 04-23-13 | 02:11 PM
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I used to see a lot of this in squash/tennis matches with opponents talking about their latest injuries/ strains/ illnesses. My usual response was to wait until after the first point then get out my old asthma inhaler for a puff.

Childish, but it amused me.
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Old 04-23-13 | 02:49 PM
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I'm a sandbagger also!! Lately when I'm riding it feels like I'm dragging two sandbags behind me! Does that count as a sandbagger?
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Old 04-23-13 | 03:04 PM
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Have never experienced sandbagging in cycling, but it is a HUGE problem in USTA tennis. It's a constant battle. For those who don't know, USTA is structured so that you compete against players of like ability. As to why someone would play down just to get a win is no honor. Some people have big egos and small morals.
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Old 04-23-13 | 03:58 PM
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I played golf with a friend from work and two of his friends years ago, and the one guy had on a faded paint splattered Eagles t-shirt,old shorts and a beat up pair of tennis shoes with grass stains.After the introductions he saids to me "you want to play for money" then it all clicked in as i said NO WAY. He went on to shoot 1 under par.Oh i did ask him if he ever thought about wearing golf shoes.He said "Why"
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Old 04-23-13 | 03:59 PM
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I think it's kind of like drafting with overlapping his front with your rear wheel... dangerous if you move from your line much. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't have much experience with sandbaggers of the cycling kind (or golfing) but I would find it annoying if I did. I pretty much know that nearly all the people I ride with can go faster than me.... but I ride alone a lot of the time.
That is correct -- it's a very dangerous way to draft because it's very easy for your front wheel to touch the rear wheel of the other bike. Your front wheel gets turned to one side resulting in you instantly crashing.
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Old 04-23-13 | 04:03 PM
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Learned something. Looks like "half wheeling" has more than one definition.

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/wha...heeling.85455/
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Old 04-23-13 | 04:16 PM
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.... you instantly crashing.
Not neccessarily correct. Get beyond intro to group riding and you start to learn how to have contact that doesn't result in instant crashes.

The first and most important thing, is to maintain the mindset that "you can and will ride out of such situations".

In the case of front tire contact due to riding overlapped, most novices instinctive reation will be to try to lean or steer away from the contact. This is incorrect. You actually lean into the contact and use it to stabilize the situation. You slow and allow the leading tire to pull away from yours and carry on.

While half wheeling while drafting is less than the safest way to ride. It and the potential contact need not be an instant accident.
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Old 04-23-13 | 04:45 PM
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Back in my attorney days, sandbagging and bluffing were great fun. Perhaps a little twisted, but great fun. bk
Yup. I love to sandbag with my rifle. That is, shooting ability. These guys show up with their high fallutin' rifles and shoot their best "group".....i throw my 300.00 Savage with plastic stock up on the bench and shoot the flies off their target. They think an expensive rifle shoots all by itself I guess.

Oh yeah cycling....train a little bit more and go drop somebody on the MUP. It works for me
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Old 04-23-13 | 06:40 PM
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Geez. Sounds like I'm a halfwheeling sandbagger.
How.........COULD you**********
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Old 04-23-13 | 06:55 PM
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Remember , part of the racer's tactics, is all in your head. little games is part of the larger game..



just let me know where you will end up, and buy me a round when I finally get there..
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Old 04-24-13 | 05:16 AM
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Geez. Sounds like I'm a halfwheeling sandbagger.
Better than a halfbagging sandwheeler... and I don't even know what that is.
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Old 04-24-13 | 06:09 AM
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Isn't that just normal in the parking lot cycling speak. Take everything they say with a grain of salt. Look for that old video "sh!@ cyclists say"
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Old 04-24-13 | 06:17 AM
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Funny responses. I guess some people are just insecure about their riding. I know I suck and want everyone to know. Then I go out and prove it. lol
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Old 04-24-13 | 06:43 AM
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Old 04-24-13 | 09:05 AM
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I didn't get dropped. I am just practicing long distance drafting.

I usually ride by myself but if I was riding with a group and they pulled away, I would just continue at my pace and hope to find my way back to the pick up point.
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Old 04-24-13 | 09:26 AM
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"His base is bigger than my peak".

We must look and sound ridiculous to some.
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Old 04-24-13 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack
How.........COULD you**********
Yea, well ... you know what they say ... the first step to recovery is recognizing that you have the problem.
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Old 04-24-13 | 10:04 AM
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Glad were avoiding political stuff on this forum.

Anyway, these videos never grow old:

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Old 04-24-13 | 10:08 AM
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Lots of definitions for sandbagging. In CB lingo, it refers to people listening in to a conversation without joining in. I suppose we could equate that with lurkers that read posts without contributing?
More definitions here.

https://sandbaggersanonymous.blogspot...ndbagging.html
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Old 04-24-13 | 10:11 AM
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"You dick."

"What?"

"I really like your new kit."
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Old 04-24-13 | 11:01 AM
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Who cares? I sure don't. If a new ride partner pushes me hard I'm free to choose my response no matter what stories have been exchanged beforehand. Why in the world would that evoke anger?
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Old 04-24-13 | 11:11 AM
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These personality types are everywhere. Once I know their behavior the amount of time I spend with them is the bare minimum. I do not care to be involved with their issues. That being said I ride alone most of the time.
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Old 04-24-13 | 08:14 PM
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Not neccessarily correct. Get beyond intro to group riding and you start to learn how to have contact that doesn't result in instant crashes.

The first and most important thing, is to maintain the mindset that "you can and will ride out of such situations".

In the case of front tire contact due to riding overlapped, most novices instinctive reation will be to try to lean or steer away from the contact. This is incorrect. You actually lean into the contact and use it to stabilize the situation. You slow and allow the leading tire to pull away from yours and carry on.

While half wheeling while drafting is less than the safest way to ride. It and the potential contact need not be an instant accident.
I think I would rather just avoid halfwheeling or being halfwheeled. I would think that the recovery technique requires some practice to perfect and I don't want to practice. Racers probably need this but I don't need to ride that close.
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