Sandbaggers! Make me MAD!
#26
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Geez. Sounds like I'm a halfwheeling sandbagger.
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I used to see a lot of this in squash/tennis matches with opponents talking about their latest injuries/ strains/ illnesses. My usual response was to wait until after the first point then get out my old asthma inhaler for a puff.
Childish, but it amused me.
Childish, but it amused me.
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I'm a sandbagger also!! Lately when I'm riding it feels like I'm dragging two sandbags behind me! Does that count as a sandbagger?
#29
Have never experienced sandbagging in cycling, but it is a HUGE problem in USTA tennis. It's a constant battle. For those who don't know, USTA is structured so that you compete against players of like ability. As to why someone would play down just to get a win is no honor. Some people have big egos and small morals.
#30
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I played golf with a friend from work and two of his friends years ago, and the one guy had on a faded paint splattered Eagles t-shirt,old shorts and a beat up pair of tennis shoes with grass stains.After the introductions he saids to me "you want to play for money" then it all clicked in as i said NO WAY. He went on to shoot 1 under par.Oh i did ask him if he ever thought about wearing golf shoes.He said "Why"
#31
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I think it's kind of like drafting with overlapping his front with your rear wheel... dangerous if you move from your line much. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't have much experience with sandbaggers of the cycling kind (or golfing) but I would find it annoying if I did. I pretty much know that nearly all the people I ride with can go faster than me.... but I ride alone a lot of the time.
I don't have much experience with sandbaggers of the cycling kind (or golfing) but I would find it annoying if I did. I pretty much know that nearly all the people I ride with can go faster than me.... but I ride alone a lot of the time.
#32
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Learned something. Looks like "half wheeling" has more than one definition.
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/wha...heeling.85455/
https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/wha...heeling.85455/
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Not neccessarily correct. Get beyond intro to group riding and you start to learn how to have contact that doesn't result in instant crashes.
The first and most important thing, is to maintain the mindset that "you can and will ride out of such situations".
In the case of front tire contact due to riding overlapped, most novices instinctive reation will be to try to lean or steer away from the contact. This is incorrect. You actually lean into the contact and use it to stabilize the situation. You slow and allow the leading tire to pull away from yours and carry on.
While half wheeling while drafting is less than the safest way to ride. It and the potential contact need not be an instant accident.
The first and most important thing, is to maintain the mindset that "you can and will ride out of such situations".
In the case of front tire contact due to riding overlapped, most novices instinctive reation will be to try to lean or steer away from the contact. This is incorrect. You actually lean into the contact and use it to stabilize the situation. You slow and allow the leading tire to pull away from yours and carry on.
While half wheeling while drafting is less than the safest way to ride. It and the potential contact need not be an instant accident.
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Oh yeah cycling....train a little bit more and go drop somebody on the MUP. It works for me
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Remember , part of the racer's tactics, is all in your head. little games is part of the larger game..
just let me know where you will end up, and buy me a round when I finally get there..
just let me know where you will end up, and buy me a round when I finally get there..
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#38
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Isn't that just normal in the parking lot cycling speak. Take everything they say with a grain of salt. Look for that old video "sh!@ cyclists say"
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Last edited by Dudelsack; 04-24-13 at 06:46 AM.
#41
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I didn't get dropped. I am just practicing long distance drafting.
I usually ride by myself but if I was riding with a group and they pulled away, I would just continue at my pace and hope to find my way back to the pick up point.
I usually ride by myself but if I was riding with a group and they pulled away, I would just continue at my pace and hope to find my way back to the pick up point.
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We must look and sound ridiculous to some.
#43
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#45
Lots of definitions for sandbagging. In CB lingo, it refers to people listening in to a conversation without joining in. I suppose we could equate that with lurkers that read posts without contributing?
More definitions here.
https://sandbaggersanonymous.blogspot...ndbagging.html
More definitions here.
https://sandbaggersanonymous.blogspot...ndbagging.html
#46
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Genius:
"You dick."
"What?"
"I really like your new kit."
"You dick."
"What?"
"I really like your new kit."
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#48
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Who cares? I sure don't. If a new ride partner pushes me hard I'm free to choose my response no matter what stories have been exchanged beforehand. Why in the world would that evoke anger?
#49
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These personality types are everywhere. Once I know their behavior the amount of time I spend with them is the bare minimum. I do not care to be involved with their issues. That being said I ride alone most of the time.
#50
Not neccessarily correct. Get beyond intro to group riding and you start to learn how to have contact that doesn't result in instant crashes.
The first and most important thing, is to maintain the mindset that "you can and will ride out of such situations".
In the case of front tire contact due to riding overlapped, most novices instinctive reation will be to try to lean or steer away from the contact. This is incorrect. You actually lean into the contact and use it to stabilize the situation. You slow and allow the leading tire to pull away from yours and carry on.
While half wheeling while drafting is less than the safest way to ride. It and the potential contact need not be an instant accident.
The first and most important thing, is to maintain the mindset that "you can and will ride out of such situations".
In the case of front tire contact due to riding overlapped, most novices instinctive reation will be to try to lean or steer away from the contact. This is incorrect. You actually lean into the contact and use it to stabilize the situation. You slow and allow the leading tire to pull away from yours and carry on.
While half wheeling while drafting is less than the safest way to ride. It and the potential contact need not be an instant accident.




