Giro's new non-dorky line of roadie wear
05-21-13, 04:08 PM
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I like wearing dorky stuff just for the attention and to irritate some. But I don't wear bibs to some social functions. On a bike bibs work well for me. I even wear a coat and tie on occasion even if it is dorky. Maybe I am a dorky person and I just have to embrace it. 
In the past I would not have worn spandex for any reason but now if it works I wear it.
In the past I would not have worn spandex for any reason but now if it works I wear it.
05-21-13, 04:10 PM
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If the kit works for you (yes I use KIT, deal with it ILTB) wear it and ride to your hearts content. I don't think the new Rapha and Giro stuff looks dorky, it seems to be well made and thought out, if it gets more people to ride or lets them ride more comfortably I say let it be sold.
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05-21-13, 04:15 PM
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I am more than willing to see the value of your interest in a more or less a fashion pair of Nickers. If they feel good and server the purpose you got them for more power to you. But I simply have to ask, because you have mentioned it more than once, your preference for a sweat soaked Cotton T-shirt.
I know I live where it is traditionally hotter than Spokane but even when I lived in Seattle I am not sure I preferred cotton when riding a bike. I find that after a ride I continue to perspire for a few minutes after I get off of the bike. If I am going somewhere that puts me in contact with other people, Church, work, entertainment it simply takes too long before the Cotton looks or feels dry. 
I have gone so far as to search out non cycling or running shirts that are made from wicking material simply so I can ride to an event and feel dry in a very short period of time. As some have mentioned I have also bought Under Armor, Nike and Jockey under garments simply to avoid the friction from Levis on a in town utility ride. 
TMI I know. But I( have found the soaked t-Shirt look to be uncomfortable so how do you deal with it and the drying time?
I have gone so far as to search out non cycling or running shirts that are made from wicking material simply so I can ride to an event and feel dry in a very short period of time. As some have mentioned I have also bought Under Armor, Nike and Jockey under garments simply to avoid the friction from Levis on a in town utility ride. TMI I know. But I( have found the soaked t-Shirt look to be uncomfortable so how do you deal with it and the drying time?
The sweat pretty much airs out of the shirts pretty quickly even in humid Dallas. I've never owned much of anything but cotton or wool clothing until this year. When it's cool I've been wearing my Aerotech jersey over the T shirts but still like the T shirts in the summer. Even when I rode centuries down around Dallas I wore either a cotton jersey (just to fit in mostly) or a Cinelli logo T shirt with pockets in the back. The Aerotech jersey is OK but I find the collar kind of bothers me.
05-21-13, 04:53 PM
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Giro's line definitely looks like a Rapha-ripoff. By the way, it's Rapha, not Ralpha, as someone posted earlier, unless the clothing does make you want to puke (I do have a couple of Rapha items).
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I tend to wear MTB shorts for the convenience of the pockets. Loose fitting jersies, usually t's made from wicking material are inexpensive and bright.
As hot weather approaches though out come the tight jerseys made of wicking material for the air conditioning effect. The proper material is smaller pores inside and larger outside so that water is absorbes on the inside (tight fitting remember), moved to the outside but the difference in pore size and evaporated on the outside for some big help. Out come the spandex shorts as well, because nothing is more uncomfortable on a ride than a chafe.
As hot weather approaches though out come the tight jerseys made of wicking material for the air conditioning effect. The proper material is smaller pores inside and larger outside so that water is absorbes on the inside (tight fitting remember), moved to the outside but the difference in pore size and evaporated on the outside for some big help. Out come the spandex shorts as well, because nothing is more uncomfortable on a ride than a chafe.
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Well my own preference is the J&G shorts but thought the cyclists in here might have some other favorite preferences they'd share with the forum that I haven't seen yet.
Well Spokane isn't as overcast as Seattle and it gets fairly hot. I've actually put in more riding time in Dallas, Amarillo and San Diego than here and find cotton pretty cool to ride in.
The sweat pretty much airs out of the shirts pretty quickly even in humid Dallas. I've never owned much of anything but cotton or wool clothing until this year. When it's cool I've been wearing my Aerotech jersey over the T shirts but still like the T shirts in the summer. Even when I rode centuries down around Dallas I wore either a cotton jersey (just to fit in mostly) or a Cinelli logo T shirt with pockets in the back. The Aerotech jersey is OK but I find the collar kind of bothers me.
Well Spokane isn't as overcast as Seattle and it gets fairly hot. I've actually put in more riding time in Dallas, Amarillo and San Diego than here and find cotton pretty cool to ride in.
The sweat pretty much airs out of the shirts pretty quickly even in humid Dallas. I've never owned much of anything but cotton or wool clothing until this year. When it's cool I've been wearing my Aerotech jersey over the T shirts but still like the T shirts in the summer. Even when I rode centuries down around Dallas I wore either a cotton jersey (just to fit in mostly) or a Cinelli logo T shirt with pockets in the back. The Aerotech jersey is OK but I find the collar kind of bothers me.
from the site you posted for your shorts:
•Nylon Taslan, a laundered, textured nylon that is soft, lightweight, very durable, colorfast, and quick drying; retains its properties through years of repeated laundering; Taslan doesn’t retain moisture like cotton does, so won’t chaff your skin
That is why I don't wear cotton under my shorts or Cycling Cargo Shorts or Bibs. I have even stopped using cotton as a base layer on cool days. It takes twice as long to dry as Wicking material, for me, and so is a lot more likely to retain odor over a long ride. I am not accusing or debating your choice it has just never worked for me. I can put in 30 miles in a group ride and within a few minutes of getting off of a bike, at least no longer than it takes to have a cup of coffee. When I have take my bike to church I have to sit in the back for 20 or 30 minutes before a cotton shirt feels dry. It seems there must be a few in these threads that simply don't sweat as much as some of us.
I have tried wool jerseys and in the cooler months or with the expensive light weight wool they seem fine but cotton has always stuck to my skin in the chest, underarms and back both to look at and touch. To be honest I didn't even know they made cotton jerseys with pockets.
05-21-13, 05:59 PM
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I saw the Giro New Road jersey at a bike shop and I like the look and feel. The are soft and do not seem scratchy to me for a mostly merino wool jersey (I think they are 80/20). The openings in the top of the shoulder seem as if they would add decent ventilation during the warmer months. The simple classic lines are a welcome change from swoosh graphics and rainbow colors. They cost less than some of their competitors and when they go on sale, I am all over one....
05-21-13, 06:16 PM
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So are you saying you cotton shirts don't collect moisture more than wicking shirts? You choice in Shorts seems to say they believe something differently.
from the site you posted for your shorts:
•Nylon Taslan, a laundered, textured nylon that is soft, lightweight, very durable, colorfast, and quick drying; retains its properties through years of repeated laundering; Taslan doesn’t retain moisture like cotton does, so won’t chaff your skin
from the site you posted for your shorts:
•Nylon Taslan, a laundered, textured nylon that is soft, lightweight, very durable, colorfast, and quick drying; retains its properties through years of repeated laundering; Taslan doesn’t retain moisture like cotton does, so won’t chaff your skin
And thinking about it, I probably picked up the T shirt habit from riding with guys like me from the working class side of Amarillo Texas who wanted to avoid having beer bottles tossed at us
That is why I don't wear cotton under my shorts or Cycling Cargo Shorts or Bibs. I have even stopped using cotton as a base layer on cool days. It takes twice as long to dry as Wicking material, for me, and so is a lot more likely to retain odor over a long ride. I am not accusing or debating your choice it has just never worked for me. I can put in 30 miles in a group ride and within a few minutes of getting off of a bike, at least no longer than it takes to have a cup of coffee. When I have take my bike to church I have to sit in the back for 20 or 30 minutes before a cotton shirt feels dry. It seems there must be a few in these threads that simply don't sweat as much as some of us.
I have tried wool jerseys and in the cooler months or with the expensive light weight wool they seem fine but cotton has always stuck to my skin in the chest, underarms and back both to look at and touch. To be honest I didn't even know they made cotton jerseys with pockets.
I have tried wool jerseys and in the cooler months or with the expensive light weight wool they seem fine but cotton has always stuck to my skin in the chest, underarms and back both to look at and touch. To be honest I didn't even know they made cotton jerseys with pockets.
Nowadays the T shirts are a comfort when I'm being passed by guys in Gym shorts and T shirts.
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05-21-13, 09:55 PM
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Padded lycra has several functions; padding the arse is one of them, otherwise they wouldn't make multi-layer chamois with "pressure zones". That said, I break out the padded lycra about 1-2x/year -- it's just not that important to me. a 3-tablet dose of nitric oxide does more for me than ANY apparel choice.
You can get wicking-material clothing at f'n WALMART, so that kind of $$ is a bit questionable; I say that, being an XXL shirt wearer, with NO fit issues.
It IS nice, though, to see a major player moving away from the peloton-based designs. (Sure, I like some of those fancy designs, but I HATE an elastic waist, and not crazy about the tight fit, either, aero benefit be damned)
You can get wicking-material clothing at f'n WALMART, so that kind of $$ is a bit questionable; I say that, being an XXL shirt wearer, with NO fit issues.
It IS nice, though, to see a major player moving away from the peloton-based designs. (Sure, I like some of those fancy designs, but I HATE an elastic waist, and not crazy about the tight fit, either, aero benefit be damned)
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I guess I no longer give a rats rear what people think regarding my dress. The Lycra & Spandex are way more comfortable than my ancient wool and chamois shorts (though zippers and fastenings can be iffee). I like the colorful jerseys but a very loose tee is fine too. The only way to be hip on a bike is to travel with other bikers. We'll still look like landed aliens in ruraland. The good thing now (as opposed to the 70's) is many have pedaled before us.
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05-21-13, 10:23 PM
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I don't wear racer gear, never have. But I do wear regular cycling jerseys and shorts, which are unrelated to racing, as do most of the other cyclists I know.
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05-21-13, 10:51 PM
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Good Point. But would you wear a nice Molteni Jersey if someone gave you one? Maybe a Fausto Coppi Bianchi Jersey?
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Works and feels Identical,, No I don't need to wear logo's, I'm not getting paid to have fun on my bike.
05-22-13, 06:31 AM
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I don't like the racing jersey Nascar look and go with less gaudy jerseys. I used to use MTB jerseys but like pockets so I switched to some nice looking, plain racing style jerseys without the ads. I generally ride wearing high end lycra shorts with quality chamois. They feel great and keep my butt from hurting. But if I am engaged in leisurely rides and going to be off the bike for long periods I prefer more pedestrian shorts or pants with pockets. I tried MTB shorts but the liners seemed marginal compared to good lycra shorts. My solution is to wear a light weight regular short over the lycra. During a bike trip to France over the last couple of weeks of cool weather I wore light weight REI wickable pants over lycra shorts every day. Felt great and looked fine in restaurants at lunch.
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The inner liners in MTB shorts have been getting better and some styles are less baggy, but it can be hard to find shorts with pockets to hold wallet, keys and camera while doing things off the bike. Most now have a small phone pocket, but little if anything else.
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Not being a slave to fashion,for me it has long been Nashbar for shorts and Longscycle for discount wool jerseys. Unfortunately Longscycle doesn't have wool jerseys anymore. I might have a look at the Giro offerings since my wool jerseys are starting to look like mesh.
05-22-13, 02:19 PM
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One reason I think I like cotton uppers is because I always ride just to ride (as if jogging) and never commute. I don't like to leave my bike alone anywhere so it doesn't bother me if I'm not presentable for social functions (other than park concerts or the like) since I don't cycle to them. Perhaps if I did my apparel would be a problem.
And yeah, Nashbar has gotten a LOT of my business over the decades too.
And yeah, Nashbar has gotten a LOT of my business over the decades too.
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Speaking of bicycling fashions, the local organization here in Boston, Mass Bike is holding a swanky fashion show, Bike Night!: From the Bikeway to the Runway on Friday, June 7. The description is:
I mention this event to the Fifty Plus Forum because this same festive organization is sponsoring their annual Summer Century and Family Ride for July 27, and this has been proposed as a venue for a Fifth Annual Fifty Plus Ride (nudge, nudge; wink, wink...say no more...say no more 
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The event will be held on Friday, June 7th, from 6:30-9pm at the Westin Boston Waterfront Hotel. The Westin has graciously provided us with a beautiful venue that is not only perfectly designed for the fashion show, but also boasts exquisite views of the Boston Harbor. The night will begin at 6:30 with a silent auction, hors d’oeuvres and drinks. The libations will be provided by Bacardi, Grey Goose, Ruffino, Robert Mondavi and Sam Adams...
After the cocktail hour, you will be invited into the dining room for a seated three-course dinner including salad, entrée, and dessert. Entrées will include a chicken, beef, or vegetarian option. Dinner will conclude around 8:30 and then the night’s entertainment will commence.
The fashion show will follow dinner and exhibit clothing that highlights bicycling as a practical, fun, stylish transportation option for all types of people. Check out our list of sponsors who will have some of their most sought-after cycling accessories and apparel modeled for the runway show. Items showcased in the fashion show include Pearl Izumi, Primal Wear, Hincapie Sportswear, Craft, Club Ride Apparel, Bern Helmets, DeFeet, Sweet Spot Skirts and many more! Don’t forget to purchase tickets for the raffle to win amazing prizes from our numerous partners...
After the cocktail hour, you will be invited into the dining room for a seated three-course dinner including salad, entrée, and dessert. Entrées will include a chicken, beef, or vegetarian option. Dinner will conclude around 8:30 and then the night’s entertainment will commence.
The fashion show will follow dinner and exhibit clothing that highlights bicycling as a practical, fun, stylish transportation option for all types of people. Check out our list of sponsors who will have some of their most sought-after cycling accessories and apparel modeled for the runway show. Items showcased in the fashion show include Pearl Izumi, Primal Wear, Hincapie Sportswear, Craft, Club Ride Apparel, Bern Helmets, DeFeet, Sweet Spot Skirts and many more! Don’t forget to purchase tickets for the raffle to win amazing prizes from our numerous partners...
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05-22-13, 10:15 PM
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It's not that I avoid race gear, it's just that I mostly don't have it (I do have a Texas Time Trials jersey). I've got solid color jerseys, Dr Seuss jerseys, randonneuring jerseys, etc. I don't know who Molteni or Fausto Coppi are, but assuming it was brightly colored, yeah, I'd wear it.
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It's not that I avoid race gear, it's just that I mostly don't have it (I do have a Texas Time Trials jersey). I've got solid color jerseys, Dr Seuss jerseys, randonneuring jerseys, etc. I don't know who Molteni or Fausto Coppi are, but assuming it was brightly colored, yeah, I'd wear it.
Another good point. But it also shows that if the price is right and the colors are correct it doesn't much matter if you happen to be wearing a team Jersey or not does it?
Club jerseys and 50+ jerseys are not team racing jerseys either but to some it seems they are all "Racer" jerseys. The only difference between wearing A replica jersey worn my Eddy Merckx, Molteni, or the Great Champion for Bianchi Fausto Coppi and two seasons ago BMC or Robobank are the number of years since they were "Race" Jerseys.
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I don't like kit. I'll usually wear shorts over riding shorts - plenty of pockets. T-shirts. Adidas Sambas. However I'll wear kit sometimes.
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I'd have to be a lot faster than I'll ever be to have the audacity to wear a Molteni jersey, lol. Perhaps some wallpaper of Merckx on the PC but not the Jersey.
Not a bad looking jersey compared to the newer ones though.
Not a bad looking jersey compared to the newer ones though.
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Looked at the new Giro line and I don't really get it. You still wear padded shorts, or bibs and a sleeveless top - the basic racer's 'dorky' outfit - but now you pay an outrageous amount to wear a wool shirt and baggy warm shorts on top of it! Why? I don't need more stuff and the old stuff is more practical. Now if you're a commuter there may be other considerations.