Balance vs age
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Balance vs age
A number of "authorities" write that balance decreases with age - given changes in ear physiology, vision, proprioception, strength, etc. I know that most of us have excellent "bike balance" but was wondering about you - especially those of you in your later 60's, 70's and upwards. Have you noticed changes in any type of balance skills (including bicycling) and, if so, are you attempting any remediations, and, if so, how is it going for you.
I have noticed my balance skills deteriorating in activities such as climbing over rocks on hills, crossing a stream on rocks, and similar. I have an increased awareness of the danger and fear of falling, etc.
To counteract this, I am using a BOSU ball, and balance discs for a series of balance exercises. But, in addition, I am purposely seeking out rocks and hills with balance requirements and the like, and I use these for training, also. And, I have noticed a significant improvement.
My bike balance seems to be fine - in fact, I would say it is excellent. Just the other stuff.
So, how about you?
I have noticed my balance skills deteriorating in activities such as climbing over rocks on hills, crossing a stream on rocks, and similar. I have an increased awareness of the danger and fear of falling, etc.
To counteract this, I am using a BOSU ball, and balance discs for a series of balance exercises. But, in addition, I am purposely seeking out rocks and hills with balance requirements and the like, and I use these for training, also. And, I have noticed a significant improvement.
My bike balance seems to be fine - in fact, I would say it is excellent. Just the other stuff.
So, how about you?
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I will be 67 in a couple weeks and, other than the normal "never going to play football again" type things, have not seen any deterioration in my physical abilities. Staying active helps immensely as I'm sure we all know.
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While I'm not yet in your target age range I'll confirm that my balance is noticeably degraded. In addition to the reasons you listed which are all dead on in my opinion I think in large part it's due to falling out of practice as time goes by. In my 30's I'd do Yoga exercises which, stupid as it sounds, led to vast improvements in balance. These days my "yoga" balance is putting on shoes and socks standing on one leg. Seriously. But it does help ... not as much as your exercises, but I think we can train it back in at any age.
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While I'm not yet in your target age range I'll confirm that my balance is noticeably degraded. In addition to the reasons you listed which are all dead on in my opinion I think in large part it's due to falling out of practice as time goes by. In my 30's I'd do Yoga exercises which, stupid as it sounds, led to vast improvements in balance. These days my "yoga" balance is putting on shoes and socks standing on one leg. Seriously. But it does help ... not as much as your exercises, but I think we can train it back in at any age.
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At 62, I have suspected that my balance abilities have degraded although I have no hard data or instances to support that claim.
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But I didn't do that when I was younger, so I still wouldn't know if my balance had degraded or I was always just a klutz. (OK...now waiting for the inevitable reply to that setup! LOL)
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I'm also 67, and have noticed a decline in my balancing. There are many other factors involved besides general loses due to aging though. I have arthritis, damage from a broken hip resulting in reduced and painful flexibility, and reduced depth perception associated to old age, but the most significant factor is loss of confidence. When most people are young, they are full of confidence and 'go for it' without much concern of the possible consequences, whereas older people are hesitant and a bit timid and apprehensive because they worry about the consequences. This hesitation contributes to reduced balance. As an example...if you, at an advanced age, grab your bike and boldly push it forward while jumping aboard, everything usually works well, but if you timidly try to board, not only will you have difficulty in smoothly getting aboard, you'll have balancing problems as well. Sucks getting older.
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Almost 62 and the only time I notice a "loss of balance" is if I've been on the floor for any amount of time and quickly rise to my feet. Not always, but for a few moments, I have a sense of not having any balance and if there is nothing to grab ahold of, feel that I'll fall over.
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I'm another 67 year (young) old. I have experienced no obvious balance issues, except on the bike I can not seem to ride hands free, unimportant as that may be. I have also noticed that at very low speed, especially when turning, I feel very wobbly/insecure. In fact doing just that a couple of weeks ago I had a crash that resulted in a fractured nose and eye socket (both now pretty much healed).
Of course there may exist, within me, a fear of having a bike crash as I had spine surgery (laminectomy and fusion) 3 years ago so I am very conscious of back impacts.
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Of course there may exist, within me, a fear of having a bike crash as I had spine surgery (laminectomy and fusion) 3 years ago so I am very conscious of back impacts.
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Timely post, I just got up to walk into the kitchen, and nearly fell down, and my vision was all blurry. HOLY COW! I thought. The I realized I had my reading glasses on. Balance is fine, memory not so much.
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Pushing 61. I don't hop across rocks like I used to, and I walk in them every morning with the dogs. Every once in awhile, I'll feel like the back end of the bike is shimmying a little, like maybe the quick release is loose. That said, I suffered a concussion a few rears ago, playing tennis of all things. It takes much longer to fully recover from these things. I can still ride no hands, if I choose to.
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Holy Molly. Didn't anyone ever tell you to turn your back on an opponent's overhead smash? If you don't mind sharing, how did it happen? (Asked by another tennis player.)
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Do you have a Link to some of those scientific studies ?? I can use the evidence in court in 2 weeks.
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I lost my left inner ear at the age of 22. So my balance (especially in the dark or with eyes closed) hasn't been good for a long time (I'm 67 now). However, my regular exercise includes standing on one foot for at least 30 seconds. (One foot then the other.) I don't really notice any problems on or off the bike.
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It's a very good question: if you start to lose balance, can you retrain it back to some extent?
I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. Our hospital now has a center for vestibular/labyrinthine disorders, and they say it can be retaught. The classic example is someone with post-concussion syndrome. Apparently you can really help some people who get their bells rung.
The BOSU ball is a great idea. My therapist wants me to work out on it every day. I use it about twice a year. Oh well.
I'm pretty sure the answer is yes. Our hospital now has a center for vestibular/labyrinthine disorders, and they say it can be retaught. The classic example is someone with post-concussion syndrome. Apparently you can really help some people who get their bells rung.
The BOSU ball is a great idea. My therapist wants me to work out on it every day. I use it about twice a year. Oh well.
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I notice at age 64 some balance issues, subtle as they are. Balance involves three interacting aspects, middle ear, somatosensory (how your body feels) and visual. Unless there are other health issues involved, you can compensate for balance issues by visualizing further out to the horizon. The closer you visualize to your body, the more balance issues will manifest.
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Hey Denver, thanks for bringing this up. Balance does deteriorate with age, but as you already found out, it is trainable at any age. I try to do some balance work on the BOSU at the end of every weight training session.
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My Yoga Teacher explained that balance doesn't deteriorate with age but that people think it does because of the increase of falls injuries in relation to age. She says that the falls are due to reaction time not balance. She says practice balance and you won't have count on your reaction time, as much, to save you.
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Think my balance is about the same. I can ride as well now, as I did in my teens and twenties.
However I do believe my reaction time might be a little slower, that could impact balance control.
There is a lot of data suggesting cycling helps improve Parkinson's related motion control.
However I do believe my reaction time might be a little slower, that could impact balance control.
There is a lot of data suggesting cycling helps improve Parkinson's related motion control.
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My Yoga Teacher explained that balance doesn't deteriorate with age but that people think it does because of the increase of falls injuries in relation to age. She says that the falls are due to reaction time not balance. She says practice balance and you won't have count on your reaction time, as much, to save you.
Thanks for sharing.