Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Honored and Sad

Search
Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Honored and Sad

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-11-13 | 06:37 AM
  #1  
NOS88's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,489
Likes: 6
From: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
Honored and Sad

I've mentioned before that my older brother was my riding partner for a good number of years, and because of health issues he is no longer able to ride. Over the years he has accumulated several good bikes (one I've been searching to find for a decade), lots of bike parts (cranks, pedals,wheels, saddles, handlebars, etc.) and about every tool you could ever need when working on a bike including a Park wheel truing stand and dishing tool, headset press and headset removal tool. Yesterday he emailed me and said that he wanted to give it all to me. He said he knew I would appreciate his collection and take care of it. In one way I'm quite honored that he would want me to have it all. He loved everything about cycling. So, I know he didn't reach his decision easily. Yet, I find myself feeling a bit sad about the whole thing. It breaks my heart to see the health/physical challenges he's facing. I haven't decided to accept his "gift" yet, and have mixed feelings about doing so. I suspect every time I look at something that used to belong to him, I'll bring back into my awareness his eventual loss of all motor functions - something I don't like to think about on a regular basis. Yet, I also suspect his request isn't just a "gift". Rather, it may be a way for him to feel OK about what happens to cycling items he has cherished. I'm not sure what I'll do. I know in terms of the overall state of human conditions across the globe this is a pretty minor decision, but it weighs heavy on me today.

Thanks for letting me get these thoughts out in the open. Perhaps clearness will come to me now that I've identified some of the thoughts and feelings.
__________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
NOS88 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 06:42 AM
  #2  
himespau's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 13,769
Likes: 3,945
From: Louisville, KY
If you've got the room for it, I'd say take it and enjoy it in his honor. If he can handle hearing about your use on his equipment without it making him too sad thinking about his loss, it might be a way for him to live vicariously though you.
__________________
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?), 1990 Concorde Aquila(hit by car while riding), others in build queue "when I get the time"





himespau is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 06:46 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 861
Likes: 11
From: Wichita, KS.
Not many things bring a tear to my eye but, your thread sure has.

I am sure you will make the right decision.

Thanks for sharing.

Regards
Planemaker is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 07:45 AM
  #4  
cplager's Avatar
The Recumbent Quant
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,094
Likes: 8
From: Fairfield, CT

Bikes: 2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis, 2016 Folding CruziTandem

Depending on his health issues, is it possible for him to:

- ride a trike?
- ride with you on a tandem (trike)?

These aren't cheap solutions, but one that may make both of you feel a lot better.

As far as his gift to you, he may very well be sad at watching these things not being used and loved. I'd accept it and then use it well.
cplager is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 07:49 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,940
Likes: 363
Whew.......... I'm just glad it isn't on me to face this one, NOS. Off the top of my head I would say to accept his offer, as you will take care of and appreciate what these tool represent to both of you. I doubt much of anything you could say or do will change his direction based on what you have posted here previously. One thing to consider is going on what you have told us about his health issues he doesn't have a lot of time and this may be his way of insuring these tools are in the right hands, that he trusts and loves. What would happen to them otherwise is a big question for you to think about.

This is JMHO. You should do exactly what you decide to do and then move on, regardless.

Bill
qcpmsame is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 08:31 AM
  #6  
NOS88's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 6,489
Likes: 6
From: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania
Originally Posted by cplager
Depending on his health issues, is it possible for him to:

- ride a trike?
- ride with you on a tandem (trike)?

These aren't cheap solutions, but one that may make both of you feel a lot better.

As far as his gift to you, he may very well be sad at watching these things not being used and loved. I'd accept it and then use it well.
He suffers from peripheral neuropathy from years of heavy use of pharmaceuticals to control epilepsy. He's exhausted current treatments and has been told that he will have a steady decline in most motor functions as the myelin sheath continues to degrade. Just in the last 3 months he's lost the ability to climb steps without assistance. His nerve endings don't register the same clues we take for granted. For example, he'll quickly lose his balance because he has virtually no feeling in his feet any longer. So, as his weight shifts, the nerves don't register with the brain that there is more or less pressure. The other sad thing about this is that he's experienced a significant decline in cognitive abilities. He has a much harder time processing information at a normal speed. If you ask him a question, it may 2 to 3 times as long for him to answer it as it did in the past. Hence, quick decision-making just isn't going to work. He gave up driving over a year ago, and has a companion dog to help keep him oriented when out in public places.
__________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. - S. Wright
Favorite rides in the stable: Indy Fab CJ Ti - Colnago MXL - S-Works Roubaix - Habanero Team Issue - Jamis Eclipse carbon/831
NOS88 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 09:05 AM
  #7  
Bikey Mikey's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,325
Likes: 2
From: Newport News, VA USA

Bikes: Diamondback Edgewood LX; Giant Defy 1

My thoughts are with you NOS and your brother.
Bikey Mikey is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 09:21 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 430
Likes: 0
From: southeastern PA - a mile west of Philadelphia
NOS88, graciously accept them, but be more than overjoyed to return everything if that which is deemed miraculous were to occur. Your brother wants you to have them; honor thy brother.
Gnosis is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 09:24 AM
  #9  
dbg's Avatar
dbg
Si Senior
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,669
Likes: 11
From: Naperville, Illinois

Bikes: Too Numerous (not)

One thing I've always marvelled at is how we tend to remember the good things most strongly. I suspect you'd use the gifts and have only good memories.
dbg is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 09:32 AM
  #10  
Pamestique's Avatar
Shredding Grandma!
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,803
Likes: 1
From: So Cal

Bikes: I don't own any bikes

Accept his gift graciously and understand his sacrifice. If he is anything like my guy; I know the decision to depart with his gear and tools was tough to make. But just say "thank you" and give him a hug; nothing else needs to be said. And if you at some point, don't have the room; don't hesitate to 1) sell the gear/equipment or 2) donate it which I think is a awesome option - you can give your brother the tax writeoff or treat him to something special he will enjoy.
__________________
______________________________________________________________

Private docent led mountain bike rides through Limestone Canyon. Go to letsgooutside.org and register today! Also available: hikes, equestrian rides and family events as well as trail maintenance and science study.
Pamestique is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 10:12 AM
  #11  
Biker395's Avatar
Seat Sniffer
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,916
Likes: 3,086
From: SoCal

Bikes: Serotta Legend Ti; 2006 Schwinn Fastback Pro and 1996 Colnago Decor Super C96; 2003 Univega Alpina 700; 2000 Schwinn Super Sport

Sorry to hear about your brother. *sigh*

All I can say is what I think I would do if I were in his shoes ... and I think I would do the same thing. Give the equipment to someone who can enjoy and use it, and spread the enjoyment to as many others as possible.

Can he still do sag support? I know when I've been off the bike because of illness or surgeries, I really enjoyed being a roving sag.
__________________
Proud parent of a happy inner child ...

Biker395 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 10:13 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 0
I have a friend that is bed ridden. It is hard to come up with topics to talk about. Like you can't ask what have you been doing lately.

The biking equipment will give you a great topic to discuss when you are talking with your brother. You can give him a call each time you use one of the tools and tell him how much you appreciate having the tool. When you take a ride on one of the bikes you can give him a review of the ride and how much you liked the way the bike handled. This will allow him to be included in your biking activity.
jim p is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 10:23 AM
  #13  
cplager's Avatar
The Recumbent Quant
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 3,094
Likes: 8
From: Fairfield, CT

Bikes: 2012 Cruzbike Sofrider, 2013 Cruzigami Mantis, 2016 Folding CruziTandem

Originally Posted by NOS88
He suffers from peripheral neuropathy from years of heavy use of pharmaceuticals to control epilepsy. He's exhausted current treatments and has been told that he will have a steady decline in most motor functions as the myelin sheath continues to degrade. Just in the last 3 months he's lost the ability to climb steps without assistance. His nerve endings don't register the same clues we take for granted. For example, he'll quickly lose his balance because he has virtually no feeling in his feet any longer. So, as his weight shifts, the nerves don't register with the brain that there is more or less pressure. The other sad thing about this is that he's experienced a significant decline in cognitive abilities. He has a much harder time processing information at a normal speed. If you ask him a question, it may 2 to 3 times as long for him to answer it as it did in the past. Hence, quick decision-making just isn't going to work. He gave up driving over a year ago, and has a companion dog to help keep him oriented when out in public places.
It sounds like riding a (recumbent) tandem might work for him (you could even get a trailer for the dog). Again, not a cheap solution, but...

My sympathies to both you and your brother.
cplager is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 10:32 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,135
Likes: 108
From: Middle of the road, NJ
I can understand his wanting to give his tools to someone for which they would have meaning, and I can understand that for you that may be a bit hard to handle. As an option you could discuss with him donating them to a charity. If there isn't a co-op or other organization close by, there is one in Trenton that could use them.
Food for thought.
leob1 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 01:10 PM
  #15  
Pars's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,421
Likes: 22
From: Aurora, IL

Bikes: '73 Raleigh RRA, 1986 Trek 500 commuter

My thoughts are with you NOS and your brother.

If it were me, I would graciously accept his gift. I think it would make him happy knowing that they were being used and enjoyed in a responsible and caring manner, which you most certainly will do. If he needs money for medical issues, etc. then maybe you could explore that route.

I am somewhat in a similar situation myself with one of my brothers, but nowhere near the seriousness of health issues that your brother has. This is what I would do personally.
Pars is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 02:01 PM
  #16  
Wogster's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 6,930
Likes: 5
From: Toronto (again) Ontario, Canada

Bikes: Old Bike: 1975 Raleigh Delta, New Bike: 2004 Norco Bushpilot

Originally Posted by NOS88
I've mentioned before that my older brother was my riding partner for a good number of years, and because of health issues he is no longer able to ride. Over the years he has accumulated several good bikes (one I've been searching to find for a decade), lots of bike parts (cranks, pedals,wheels, saddles, handlebars, etc.) and about every tool you could ever need when working on a bike including a Park wheel truing stand and dishing tool, headset press and headset removal tool. Yesterday he emailed me and said that he wanted to give it all to me. He said he knew I would appreciate his collection and take care of it. In one way I'm quite honored that he would want me to have it all. He loved everything about cycling. So, I know he didn't reach his decision easily. Yet, I find myself feeling a bit sad about the whole thing. It breaks my heart to see the health/physical challenges he's facing. I haven't decided to accept his "gift" yet, and have mixed feelings about doing so. I suspect every time I look at something that used to belong to him, I'll bring back into my awareness his eventual loss of all motor functions - something I don't like to think about on a regular basis. Yet, I also suspect his request isn't just a "gift". Rather, it may be a way for him to feel OK about what happens to cycling items he has cherished. I'm not sure what I'll do. I know in terms of the overall state of human conditions across the globe this is a pretty minor decision, but it weighs heavy on me today.

Thanks for letting me get these thoughts out in the open. Perhaps clearness will come to me now that I've identified some of the thoughts and feelings.
We can all feel sad for your brother, now I agree with a lot of others, you should accept the gift. Surplus bikes and parts you can't use, maybe you can put up for sale, maybe duplicate tools as well. Perhaps you could do something for your brother with the proceeds.
Wogster is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 02:28 PM
  #17  
Zinger's Avatar
Trek 500 Kid
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,563
Likes: 399
From: Spokane WA

Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road

He's fortunate to have someone close to pass them to. I've been wondering where my stuff will go to an appreciative cyclist as my close friends and relatives are either shorter than me or don't cycle.
Zinger is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 03:33 PM
  #18  
George's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,721
Likes: 101
From: Katy Texas

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix

My wife had a very hard time giving up riding, but after getting 4 disk in her lower back, I decided to sell her bike. It was fun while it lasted and we both wish she could be ride again, but were both worried if she fell it would be a disaster.

Sorry to hear about your problems and I’m sure everything will workout for the good. Whatever that may be. Good luck.
__________________
George
George is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 04:20 PM
  #19  
MickeyMaguire's Avatar
Avid Cyclist
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
From: Columbus, Ohio

Bikes: Diamondback Century Disc

Originally Posted by NOS88
I haven't decided to accept his "gift" yet, and have mixed feelings about doing so.
I suspect that he would want you riding his bikes and using the gear because they will continue to "trek" even when he cannot. He'll be there, with you, in spirit, with every stroke of the pedal. Then, you can talk about it together.

I saw a movie starring Martin Sheen. He walked a pilgrimage that his son began and died in an accident along the way. He carried his son's ashes and scattered them along the way and then dumped the remainder in the sea at the end. It was a great money.

Your brother will not have died, but, his journey ended in another sense. You can ride for him.
MickeyMaguire is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 04:52 PM
  #20  
Cychologist's Avatar
Getting older and slower!
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 419
Likes: 2
From: Bowling Green, Kentucky

Bikes: Trek Domane 6 series Project One, Bike Friday Pocket Rocket, Trek XO1, Specialized Turbo Vado 6.0

My younger brother died of a brain tumor over a decade ago. He was the serious cyclist of the family, easily doubling my 2,500-3,500 miles per year. I was very hesitant to accept some of his stuff, including his prized Paris-Burst-Paris jerseys. Now I wouldn't sell them for anything, and wear them on special occasions, like his birthday.

Honor your brother.
Cychologist is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 05:33 PM
  #21  
himespau's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 13,769
Likes: 3,945
From: Louisville, KY
Originally Posted by MickeyMaguire
I saw a movie starring Martin Sheen. He walked a pilgrimage that his son began and died in an accident along the way. He carried his son's ashes and scattered them along the way and then dumped the remainder in the sea at the end. It was a great money.
.
The Way. Got it from netflix sitting on top of the player, waiting for a go. Glad to hear it'll be worth watching.
__________________
Bikes: 1996 Eddy Merckx Titanium EX, 1989/90 Colnago Super(issimo?) Piu(?), 1990 Concorde Aquila(hit by car while riding), others in build queue "when I get the time"





himespau is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 06:46 PM
  #22  
1bluetrek's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 646
Likes: 0
From: eastern wa.

Bikes: 2015 Giant Advanced Pro 2,Trek 1500, a GT Avalanche and a Mongoose IBOC Comp

Perhaps a tandem trike?
Its sad to hear, and remindes me that I need to spend more time on my bike and enjoy it until God forbid, someday I cant ride.
Take his gift, love and care for them and always keep him in the loop
1bluetrek is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 07:21 PM
  #23  
Bill Kapaun's Avatar
Really Old Senior Member
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,679
Likes: 1,916
From: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun

Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3

My younger brother was getting "too old" for his 10 speed road bike, so I offered to set it up with flat bars and thumb shifters.
Since he lived in California, we'd only see each other about twice/year and he was going to pick it up the next time he visited.
He ended up with cancer and died 2 years ago and I ended up with the bike.
It had sentimental value to me, since he bought it new back in 73 74?
It was far too big for me, so I fixed it up for my best friends son.
The stipulation is that if he EVER gets rid of it, it comes back to me.
That way I still get to see and work on the bike on occasion and I feel my brother is glad to see the bike being used by someone that DOES appreciate the significance.
I turned it into a 3X9 speed and it gets ridden LOTS of miles.
RIP Tony
Bill Kapaun is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 07:55 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 16,767
Likes: 85
NOS, consider yourself a custodian, taking care of your brother's love of cycling.

In all likelihood, he is attending to his affairs before what appears to be the inevitable outcome, and rather than seeing his cycling items being liquidated to cash in the administration of his estate, he would rather they go now to someone he knows will appreciate them, and help maintain strong memories of good times together.

He probably has given this considerable thought, and to deny him the offer might not sit well with him, as in the longer term, it might not sit well with you.

Last edited by Rowan; 09-12-13 at 12:01 AM.
Rowan is offline  
Reply
Old 09-11-13 | 09:22 PM
  #25  
billydonn's Avatar
Council of the Elders
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,759
Likes: 3
From: Omaha, NE

Bikes: 1990 Schwinn Crosscut, 5 Lemonds

Originally Posted by Bikey Mikey
My thoughts are with you NOS and your brother.
Yea.... me too man. That's very hard and I'm so sorry. One thing I might suggest is taking the bike stuff in stages... I don't know why but I think that would make it easier for me. Maybe it softens the sense of finality of it somehow. Hang in there....
billydonn is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.