Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Nine worthless fitness tips

Search
Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Nine worthless fitness tips

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-01-13, 11:43 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Rich Gibson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 522

Bikes: Fuji Rubaix 1.0

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Nine worthless fitness tips

What do you think?
https://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list...bably-follow#4

1. Always stretch before your workout
2. Push through the pain
3. To lose weight and fat, focus on resistance training
4. A cool down is absolutely necessary
5. You can drop pounds and inches without dropping a bead of sweat
6. It’s always better to do vigorous workouts than it is to exercise at a moderate-inbtensity
7. It doesn’t matter if you do cardio or weight training first
8. If you’re feeling sore after a workout, pop an ibuprofen (I was thinking about doing this)
9. If you have bad knees do your running on a treadmill

Rich
__________________
..life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. ― Andy Rooney ...enjoy what's left!
Rich Gibson is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 12:20 PM
  #2  
Seat Sniffer
 
Biker395's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,630

Bikes: Serotta Legend Ti; 2006 Schwinn Fastback Pro and 1996 Colnago Decor Super C96; 2003 Univega Alpina 700; 2000 Schwinn Super Sport

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 945 Post(s)
Liked 1,986 Times in 569 Posts
Biker395's fitness tips for the non-professional athlete:

1. Do what you love.
2. Do it as much and as hard as you feel like, stop or lighten up when you don't.

Five cents, please.

__________________
Proud parent of a happy inner child ...

Biker395 is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 12:24 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,712
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I dropped 20 pounds with xxxxxx program and now I'm fit. For xxxxxx substitute your favorite commercial program or fad diet.
ModeratedUser150120149 is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 12:28 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Middle of the road, NJ
Posts: 3,137
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 292 Post(s)
Liked 106 Times in 69 Posts
Remember; NO PAIN, feels good!
leob1 is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 01:02 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Garfield Cat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 7,085

Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 478 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 87 Times in 67 Posts
Originally Posted by Rich Gibson
What do you think?
https://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list...bably-follow#4

1. Always stretch before your workout
2. Push through the pain
3. To lose weight and fat, focus on resistance training
4. A cool down is absolutely necessary
5. You can drop pounds and inches without dropping a bead of sweat
6. It’s always better to do vigorous workouts than it is to exercise at a moderate-inbtensity
7. It doesn’t matter if you do cardio or weight training first
8. If you’re feeling sore after a workout, pop an ibuprofen (I was thinking about doing this)
9. If you have bad knees do your running on a treadmill

Rich
How about: always consult B.F. before visiting your physician who doesn't ride.
Garfield Cat is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 01:04 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
CommuteCommando's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Southern CaliFORNIA.
Posts: 3,078

Bikes: KHS Alite 500, Trek 7.2 FX , Masi Partenza, Masi Fixed Special, Masi Cran Criterium

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked 19 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by Rich Gibson
What do you think?
1. Always stretch before your workout May or may not be true, but it feels good to do, so I do it
2. Push through the pain. This is true, up to a point, otherwise I done see you gaining anything.
3. To lose weight and fat, focus on resistance training I focus on Cardio workouts and good diet.
4. A cool down is absolutely necessary. Agian. it feels good, so I do it.
5. You can drop pounds and inches without dropping a bead of sweat I agree this is not true.
6. It’s always better to do vigorous workouts than it is to exercise at a moderate-inbtensity Calories burned =xTime*yIntensity
7. It doesn’t matter if you do cardio or weight training first I do Cardio first, good or not, I don't really know or care, again, it feels good.
8. If you’re feeling sore after a workout, pop an ibuprofen (I was thinking about doing this) I stretch
9. If you have bad knees do your running on a treadmill I have heard the opposite. I started running on a treadmill last year, then my hips got sore, so I stopped.
CommuteCommando is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 01:14 PM
  #7  
Full Member
 
welshTerrier2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 247
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by Rich Gibson
What do you think?
https://www.thepostgame.com/blog/list...bably-follow#4

8. If you’re feeling sore after a workout, pop an ibuprofen (I was thinking about doing this)

Rich
"Popping" ibuprofen for non-injury workout soreness is probably not a very good idea. Concerns have been raised that NSAIDs increase the risk of heart attacks and strokes. Do a search for "NSAID heart attack" and you'll get all kinds of information. For general workout soreness, try a little post-workout stretching, a hot shower or icing, and some light exercise the next day.
welshTerrier2 is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 01:48 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 314

Bikes: early 80's steel 12speed, CAAD10-3 2013

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'll play

1. Always stretch before your workout Heard both sides but I doubt it makes things worse so I tend to

2. Push through the pain Depends, there is good pain and bad pain. Pain as in you are tired good, pain as in joint pain or a torn muscle..stop
3. To lose weight and fat, focus on resistance training Do whatever works.
4. A cool down is absolutely necessary Again likely doesnt hurt so why not but I'm not sure it is an absolute
5. You can drop pounds and inches without dropping a bead of sweat Yah don't eat for a week and you'll lose pounds and inches without sweat but it's kind of extreme
6. It’s always better to do vigorous workouts than it is to exercise at a moderate-inbtensity Calories burned =xTime*yIntensity
7. It doesn’t matter if you do cardio or weight training first Apparently it's better to do weights first due to blood flow IIRC but I don't do them both on the same days so not sure
8. If you’re feeling sore after a workout, pop an ibuprofen (I was thinking about doing this) Not sure about this
9. If you have bad knees do your running on a treadmill If you have bad knees (I do) don't run possible the worse thing you can do
nuke_diver is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 01:50 PM
  #9  
Señor Blues
 
on the path's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: upstate NY
Posts: 1,598

Bikes: Cannondale CAAD 10, Breezer Venturi Custom Build, IRO Singlespeed

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 127 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
For no. 6, remove the word "always" and you might have something there.
on the path is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 03:24 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
eja_ bottecchia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 5,791
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1020 Post(s)
Liked 463 Times in 293 Posts
2. Push through the pain

Generally true unless, of course, we are talking about chest pain. Do you want to know how I know?

While riding my bike, climbing hills like a goat (or trying to) and sprinting to the nearest town limits signs (like a middle-age Pete Sagan) I began to experience chest pains and a serious drop in my performance. I ignored the pain for about three months (HTFU was my mantra) until my GP literally dragged me to the nearest cardio.

I am now the proud owner of a new stent, placed in the artery normally referred as the "widow maker" where the cardio found 90% blockage.

All things considered, it could've been worse, I could have dropped dead while riding (like so many in our age group do). The cardio did say that riding as much as I do kept my heart health enough to pump through the blockage.

Moral of the story: don't be a hero (or an arse) and don't ride through chest pain.
eja_ bottecchia is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 03:40 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 118 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 50 Times in 25 Posts
I went "no pain" when I went recumbent. As for the OP's list; exercise takes enough time without adding all that. Just ride. bk
bkaapcke is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 04:02 PM
  #12  
jyl
Senior Member
 
jyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 7,639

Bikes: 61 Bianchi Specialissima 71 Peugeot G50 7? P'geot PX10 74 Raleigh GranSport 75 P'geot UO8 78? Raleigh Team Pro 82 P'geot PSV 86 P'geot PX 91 Bridgestone MB0 92 B'stone XO1 97 Rans VRex 92 Cannondale R1000 94 B'stone MB5 97 Vitus 997

Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 49 Times in 31 Posts
I think the girl in the image for useless tip no. 1 is . . . not useless.
jyl is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 05:28 PM
  #13  
Lover of Old Chrome Moly
 
Myosmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NW Minnesota
Posts: 2,949
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 143 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 23 Times in 17 Posts
2. Push through the pain

Not all pain is created equal. You need to know the difference between the temporary discomfort of pushing your body hard and the pain of an acute injury or impending failure. If you never experience any discomfort, you aren't trying very hard. If you are pushing yourself to excruciating agony on every workout, you are headed for a burnout or chronic overuse injury. Remember that your workout only sets the stage, the actual improvement happens during rest.
Myosmith is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 05:39 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 16,771
Mentioned: 125 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1454 Post(s)
Liked 85 Times in 40 Posts
As to the losing weight without a drop of sweat, this is true. The assertion in the list forgets the calories in/calories out paradigm. So long as your calorie intake is below your basal metabolic rate, you're good to lose weight without the sweat.

So, if you take that, apply it to the other assertions, the credibility is somewhat diminished. It seems to me to be an excuse list for not doing any sort of physical activity.

Stretching? A physical activity that is good for you.

Push through the pain? What's the definition of pain -- most unfit people appear to have a low threshhold of pain.

Resistance training? If it's all you can do, doing it will lose weight for you.

Cool down? It helps get the muscles recovered, through speedier removal of lactic acid, as well as bringing the muscles back to "room temperature".

Intensity? The jury is out on that, but as you progress through a training program, the intensity does indeed need to get higher and higher for the outcomes to be effective.

Cardio first or weights? I think cardio gets the muscles warmed up and ready for weights.

Ibuprofen? About the only element of useful advice, in my opinion, but then, there have been more than several occasions over many years that I have used ibuprofen to help reduce inflammation without any ill effects.

Bad knees and running? My advice would be not to do any running without consulting with a physician and an ortho specilaist.
Rowan is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 07:05 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Dudelsack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: South Hutchinson Island
Posts: 6,647

Bikes: Lectric Xpedition.

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 146 Post(s)
Liked 96 Times in 46 Posts
80% of internet statistics are only 50% true.
__________________
Momento mori, amor fati.




Dudelsack is offline  
Old 11-01-13, 09:34 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Northern NY...Brownville
Posts: 2,571

Bikes: Specialized Aethos, Specialized Diverge Comp E5

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 241 Post(s)
Liked 454 Times in 265 Posts
Best tip: Do what you like and screw everyone's advice...
Kai Winters is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 06:22 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
donheff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Capitol Hill, Washington, DC
Posts: 1,503

Bikes: Specialized Tricross Comp, Custom Steel Sport Touring, Specialized Turbo Vado 4.0 SL

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Liked 40 Times in 27 Posts
You can absolutely drop weight without breaking a sweat. Just change your macro nutrients (dump sugar and processed foods) and take long walks or long, relaxing rides. No sweat. Pounds drop off.
donheff is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 07:29 AM
  #18  
Junior Member
 
Robes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 23
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Kai Winters
Best tip: Do what you like and screw everyone's advice...
My feelings exactly. Read through the list and I came up with more "Nopes", than "Yeps",...way more...
Robes is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 08:03 AM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Dave Cutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: D'uh... I am a Cutter
Posts: 6,139

Bikes: '17 Access Old Turnpike Gravel bike, '14 Trek 1.1, '13 Cannondale CAAD 10, '98 CAD 2, R300

Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1571 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by Rich Gibson
....
8. If you’re feeling sore after a workout, pop an ibuprofen (I was thinking about doing this)
I don't take anymore meds than I really have/need to. Having some back damage and arthritic pain... I used to take meds for the pain. But I found that regular pain meds have a diminishing effect. The more I took... the more I seemed to need. But I have found that the little heart-shaped low-dose aspirin has just about the right amount of pain relief if only taken rarely.
Dave Cutter is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 09:11 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Looigi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 12 Posts
Simplistic dogma. Reality is a bit more complicated.
Looigi is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 10:13 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
David Bierbaum's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: St. Louis Metro East area
Posts: 1,633

Bikes: 1992 Specialized Crossroads (red)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 26 Post(s)
Liked 35 Times in 19 Posts
Well, now I can at least feel good about not stretching before I ride. I do my stretching only when I'm just doing stretching, in the hopes that one day I'll actually manage to touch my toes without bending my knees...
David Bierbaum is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 10:52 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
NVanHiker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 596

Bikes: 2008 Giant FCR2, 1992 Raleigh hybrid, my son's old mountain bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Liked 9 Times in 7 Posts
I stretch before, during, and after a workout. In fact, I stretch numerous times during the day. I know from (60 years) experience it helps prevent injury since not stretching has caused injury once or twice. Besides, it feels good.

Here's a test for the skeptics: Load up a bar with 180 pounds. Do a few bent-over rows cold. How's that lower back? For something more mundane, I would also advise stretching out the back before moving the washing machine out from the wall to replace the hoses.
NVanHiker is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 11:01 AM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Shimagnolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zang's Spur, CO
Posts: 9,083
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 5,517 Times in 2,859 Posts
On pre-exercise stretching: https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/0...ot-to-stretch/
Shimagnolo is online now  
Old 11-02-13, 11:01 AM
  #24  
Seat Sniffer
 
Biker395's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,630

Bikes: Serotta Legend Ti; 2006 Schwinn Fastback Pro and 1996 Colnago Decor Super C96; 2003 Univega Alpina 700; 2000 Schwinn Super Sport

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 945 Post(s)
Liked 1,986 Times in 569 Posts
There is evidence that stretching before exercise does not prevent injury.

https://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/mu...s_Injuries.php

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15233597

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/4619394/

But as others have said ... if it feels good and works for you, go for it.
__________________
Proud parent of a happy inner child ...

Biker395 is offline  
Old 11-02-13, 11:03 AM
  #25  
Senior Member
 
Shimagnolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zang's Spur, CO
Posts: 9,083
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3375 Post(s)
Liked 5,517 Times in 2,859 Posts
Originally Posted by Garfield Cat
How about: always consult B.F. before visiting your physician who doesn't ride.
Here in the Boulder area, you will have a tough time finding such a physician.
Shimagnolo is online now  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.