Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Clipped by a Pickup

Search
Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Clipped by a Pickup

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-22-14 | 10:09 AM
  #126  
mrodgers's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,649
Likes: 29
From: Western PA

Bikes: 2014 Giant Escape 1

Originally Posted by dicktill
The fly6 looks like it works great, and the video is very clear.
I could not read a single thing on anything that had letters or numbers including the license plates of the cars going by. Not a very clear video in my eyes, especially one for the purpose of recording an accident with a bicycle.
mrodgers is offline  
Reply
Old 07-22-14 | 10:19 AM
  #127  
volosong's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,809
Likes: 28
From: North Idaho

Bikes: n + 1

Originally Posted by gforeman
Anyone know what the record time is as far as battery life and memory on the FLY6 ?
I think I read on the web site that recording time is 5 hours. It comes with a 8Gb card, but I assume a 16 or 32 would work fine.


Only took a quick look yesterday at DCRainMaker's site talking about the FLY6. Just my initial impression, but I don't think I would want to use that device because the output lumins is not very high. To me, the brighter, the better. Bright enough to be annoying to those behind me.

About recording over previously recorded video... if the FLY6 is like every other type of SD card based recording system, new video will NOT overwrite files on the card. Instead, your camera will just shut off because there is no space available. The FLY 6 comes with a 8 gig card. That's big enough that your battery will die before you run out of space, (assuming you begin a ride with a fully charged battery and a blank SD card).

Which brings up a question. Video drains batteries pretty fast. Are there two batteries in the unit, one for video and one for the light? Or, just a single battery and your light will be useless when the video depletes the battery.

All in all, the FLY6 has an attractive price point. I would just want something brighter. (I believe I read on the FLY6 web site that the next generation will have a brighter light, but not by much.) Problem with a single device that records video and drives a bright light . . . they both are big power consumers and a battery strong enough to give a decent usage time between charges would be pretty large.

Just my opinion. A dim light is better than nothing. Just be sure to use it on strobe mode, (during the day - don't think strobes are legal at night).

Originally Posted by mrodgers
I could not read a single thing on anything that had letters or numbers including the license plates of the cars going by. Not a very clear video in my eyes, especially one for the purpose of recording an accident with a bicycle.
Pretty sure the posted video was sized down for web delivery. Isolating a frame from the raw video with a little bit of high pass filtering should yield plate numbers.

Last edited by volosong; 07-22-14 at 10:22 AM.
volosong is offline  
Reply
Old 07-23-14 | 11:23 AM
  #128  
bransom's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis area
The Fly6 will loop the recording once the memory card is full. Their site says the included 8 gig card will record about 2 hrs worth of video before it starts overwriting the earliest on the card. As for what happens in an accident, their site says, "...we included an incident protection function where if your bike is tilted over at more than 45 degrees for more than 3 seconds, it will trigger a footage cut off that will stop recording and turn off the device after one hour. With the included 8GB microSD card this would mean you'll have captured and saved roughly the hour before the incident and the hour after (subject to the device still working and having sufficient battery remaining). This protects the most important footage & audio for your use later."
bransom is offline  
Reply
Old 07-23-14 | 12:50 PM
  #129  
Null66's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,114
Likes: 3
From: Garner, NC 27529

Bikes: Built up DT, 2007 Fuji tourer (donor bike, RIP), 1995 1220 Trek

Glad you're alive.
Hope you heal well.

glad I haven't seen the video.
Null66 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-23-14 | 03:35 PM
  #130  
LAJ's Avatar
LAJ
So it is
15 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 22,878
Likes: 6,382
From: Westminster, CO

Bikes: Luzerne, 684, Boreas, Wheelhouse, Alize©®, Bayamo, Cayo

Positive and healing thoughts, Metric Man. Good you're still around.
LAJ is offline  
Reply
Old 07-23-14 | 04:51 PM
  #131  
Murray Missile's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 3,434
Likes: 1,603
From: 700 Ft. above sea level.

Bikes: Not as many as there were awhile ago.

Originally Posted by volosong
A dim light is better than nothing. Just be sure to use it on strobe mode, (during the day - don't think strobes are legal at night).
Came up behind a cyclist a couple weeks ago about 3:30 on a sunny afternoon and I spotted his brightly colored jersey at least a mile away. I knew what I was seeing right away as that stretch of road is popular with local cyclists and I'm always on the watch for them. We reached an intersection about the same time and I hung back as I was making a right turn and didn't want to cut him off. It wasn't until I made my turn and got within 15 feet of him that I noticed his red strobe. I was going to say something but he took off across the intersection before I could get his attention. I had my eyes on him the entire time and never saw his strobe until I was literally on top of him, it was pretty much useless. As to night time legality it would depend on your local laws but I run multiple strobes at night and have had several favorable comments from the police and motorists.
__________________
".....distasteful and easily triggered."
Murray Missile is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-14 | 01:08 PM
  #132  
BlazingPedals's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,548
Likes: 797
From: Middle of da Mitten

Bikes: Trek 7500, RANS V-Rex, Optima Baron, Velokraft NoCom, M-5 Carbon Highracer, Catrike Speed

Originally Posted by Murray Missile
never saw his strobe until I was literally on top of him...
I've seen this before, too. LEDs will continue to work until the battery is completely dead; but they do so with steadily dimming output. It's easy to check that it's blinking and assume it's OK.
BlazingPedals is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-14 | 02:00 PM
  #133  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 154
Likes: 2
From: Northern Burbs of Atlanta

Bikes: Fuji Absolute, Cannondale CAAD10, Orbea Ordu m-30, Cannondale Jeckyl

Originally Posted by OldTryGuy
The 8.5' limit is for the BODY of the vehicle. People forget that mirrors extend out another 6" to 2'. The mirror very often causes the impact.
In 3 of my 4 incidents with cars over the last 30 years, it's been mirrors that tagged me, 2 of those were LEO's . The 4 was t-bone into a left turner. I've been lucky in that only two of these resulting in me on the pavement, the other two were just some nasty bruises.

Using mirrors on the bike is a good thing, but it has to be part of the normal scan, if you are looking in the mirror you aren't watching what is in front of you. In some motorcycle safety courses and combat pilot training they teach the same concept, and it applies to us as cyclist. Threat assessment. Scan, Evaluate, Prepare, Act, Repeat. Always know what is around you, but even that won't protect you all the time.We have to change the culture of drivers first, and that only happens as more people get out and ride.

We can get angry, but the reality is, hostility breeds hostility. So long as we live in the us versus them hive mentality, we perpetuate the loop. Educate, be nice, engage and help change the culture that makes it 'popular' to "hate bicyclists" or to "hate cagers".

I'm thrilled that the OP survived this, and is handling it as gracefully as he is. I just hope that we as cyclists can follow his lead and be graceful about it as well.
dru_ is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-14 | 04:11 PM
  #134  
Bikey Mikey's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 3,325
Likes: 2
From: Newport News, VA USA

Bikes: Diamondback Edgewood LX; Giant Defy 1

Originally Posted by dru_
In 3 of my 4 incidents with cars over the last 30 years, it's been mirrors that tagged me, 2 of those were LEO's . The 4 was t-bone into a left turner. I've been lucky in that only two of these resulting in me on the pavement, the other two were just some nasty bruises.

Using mirrors on the bike is a good thing, but it has to be part of the normal scan, if you are looking in the mirror you aren't watching what is in front of you. In some motorcycle safety courses and combat pilot training they teach the same concept, and it applies to us as cyclist. Threat assessment. Scan, Evaluate, Prepare, Act, Repeat. Always know what is around you, but even that won't protect you all the time.We have to change the culture of drivers first, and that only happens as more people get out and ride.

We can get angry, but the reality is, hostility breeds hostility. So long as we live in the us versus them hive mentality, we perpetuate the loop. Educate, be nice, engage and help change the culture that makes it 'popular' to "hate bicyclists" or to "hate cagers".

I'm thrilled that the OP survived this, and is handling it as gracefully as he is. I just hope that we as cyclists can follow his lead and be graceful about it as well.
Depends on the blinkie. I have a Radbot 1000 & a Cygolite Hotshot on the rear--I've told that, during the day, the lights can be seen from quite far back.
Bikey Mikey is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-14 | 06:08 PM
  #135  
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,766
Likes: 89
From: East Bay Area ,CA

Bikes: not enough

Originally Posted by bransom
The Fly6 will loop the recording once the memory card is full. Their site says the included 8 gig card will record about 2 hrs worth of video before it starts overwriting the earliest on the card. As for what happens in an accident, their site says, "...we included an incident protection function where if your bike is tilted over at more than 45 degrees for more than 3 seconds, it will trigger a footage cut off that will stop recording and turn off the device after one hour. With the included 8GB microSD card this would mean you'll have captured and saved roughly the hour before the incident and the hour after (subject to the device still working and having sufficient battery remaining). This protects the most important footage & audio for your use later."
I've gone to 32gb card with the fly6 unit.. I was only getting ~3hrs out of a 16gb card.. usually less.
spdntrxi is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-14 | 11:35 PM
  #136  
Jimbosays's Avatar
Let's Ride!
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 178
Likes: 4
From: Central Florida

Bikes: Giant Suede (Comfort cruiser - "The Rocking Chair"); Giant Escape 2 (700mm Hybrid - "The S.U.V."); Specialized Secteur Elite (Road Bike - "The Scooter"); Surly Troll (Touring Bike - "Load Up & Go Anywhere")

All of this accident talk has made me order a Road ID tag today!

* Road ID Tour de France Discount *

Road ID – Tour de France Sale – Save 15% off any Road ID with coupon code ‘TDF14′.

Expiration Date: 7/27/2014

Road ID Info/Order Link:

Road ID | USA's #1 Source for Runners ID, Cycling ID & Medical ID Tags
Jimbosays is offline  
Reply
Old 07-25-14 | 06:20 AM
  #137  
DnvrFox's Avatar
Banned.
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 20,915
Likes: 12
How about one of those RFID ?? thingies they insert under the skin of dogs and cats? If they were all inserted in the same place, it could be easily found by medical personnel and have a LOT of info on it that would be readable by some sort of scanner device. Allergies, address, etc.????
DnvrFox is offline  
Reply
Old 07-25-14 | 07:15 AM
  #138  
dynodonn's Avatar
On the lam
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,470
Likes: 96
From: The Village
Originally Posted by dru_
I just hope that we as cyclists can follow his lead and be graceful about it as well.
Sorry, if this happened to me, I sure wouldn't go about it gracefully at all. The OP has his way of dealing with a situation such as this, and I have mine, especially in light to the motorist's incompetence, whether if it was done deliberately or not.
dynodonn is offline  
Reply
Old 07-25-14 | 04:10 PM
  #139  
JanMM's Avatar
rebmeM roineS
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 16,230
Likes: 363
From: Metro Indy, IN

Bikes: Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer

Originally Posted by DnvrFox
How about one of those RFID ?? thingies they insert under the skin of dogs and cats? If they were all inserted in the same place, it could be easily found by medical personnel and have a LOT of info on it that would be readable by some sort of scanner device. Allergies, address, etc.????
They'd probably have to consult a Vet to come in and read the device......................woof!
__________________
Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
JanMM is offline  
Reply
Old 07-26-14 | 04:28 PM
  #140  
USMCRet's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 49
Likes: 1
What a completely horrendous video. I'm so glad you are okay.
USMCRet is offline  
Reply
Old 07-26-14 | 06:41 PM
  #141  
dprayvd's Avatar
makn'a phonecall to doggy
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: The blue suit.
Originally Posted by dynodonn
Sorry, if this happened to me, I sure wouldn't go about it gracefully at all. The OP has his way of dealing with a situation such as this, and I have mine, especially in light to the motorist's incompetence, whether if it was done deliberately or not.
Concur.

Not even one moment....
dprayvd is offline  
Reply
Old 07-26-14 | 08:43 PM
  #142  
Metric Man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Old Fart Racing
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,347
Likes: 0
From: Draper UT

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Originally Posted by dprayvd
Concur.

Not even one moment....
No one should assume I have not pursued this any further. Counsel has been obtained.

Last edited by Metric Man; 07-27-14 at 07:08 AM.
Metric Man is offline  
Reply
Old 07-27-14 | 04:03 AM
  #143  
autoteacher's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 286
Likes: 1
From: The Witch City

Bikes: 4 Raleinghs

Metric,

Damn! Good luck on your recovery and take your time! Damn!

M
autoteacher is offline  
Reply
Old 07-27-14 | 07:58 AM
  #144  
dprayvd's Avatar
makn'a phonecall to doggy
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 489
Likes: 0
From: The blue suit.
OP, 'twas another poster who suggested magnanimity.

I feel you deserve from the driver a good deal of pay, and driver a good deal of loss.
dprayvd is offline  
Reply
Old 07-27-14 | 08:09 AM
  #145  
Metric Man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Old Fart Racing
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,347
Likes: 0
From: Draper UT

Bikes: 2015 Trek Domane 6.9 disc D/A Di2

Originally Posted by dprayvd
OP, 'twas another poster who suggested magnanimity.

I feel you deserve from the driver a good deal of pay, and driver a good deal of loss.
Yes, I was posting with an iPhone and didn't grab the correct quote, apologies.

I just want all to know that while I hold no grudge against the driver, that does not mean there will be no repercussions from his actions. I personally can't keep bitterness and hatred in my heart against this man, it will eat me up. I have obtained counsel in Texas and they are pursuing many different avenues to obtain "justice" in this matter.
Metric Man is offline  
Reply
Old 07-27-14 | 04:28 PM
  #146  
Semper Fidelis
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,000
Likes: 7

Bikes: Tiemeyer Road Bike & Ridley Domicles

Wow this is really a horrific video of what happened to you. I hope you have a very speedy recovery and hope everything works out for you in the future. I have ridden the roads here in Texas for over 20 years and coming form Ventura Ca.the drivers here in Texas do suck!

I ride with 2 blinking strobe lights on back of my bikes, but imho rather lights or gopro it will never be enough safety for the rider as so many drivers feel they own the road.

gary
HAMMER MAN is offline  
Reply
Old 07-27-14 | 07:28 PM
  #147  
Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 44
Likes: 1
From: Half Moon Bay, CA

Bikes: Trek 5500, Santa Cruz Superlight, 2015 Lynskey Sportive Disc

Glad you are still with us Metric Man. Also glad you are pursuing justice. Heal fast.
coastalrider is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-14 | 01:03 PM
  #148  
BlazingPedals's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,548
Likes: 797
From: Middle of da Mitten

Bikes: Trek 7500, RANS V-Rex, Optima Baron, Velokraft NoCom, M-5 Carbon Highracer, Catrike Speed

It's troubling that the police chief's statement seems to imply it would have been okay to hit him if he'd been in the travel lane. The truck driver had a responsibility to not hit a vehicle in front of him, regardless of lane positioning. Hitting someone who was on the shoulder should have added *another* ticketable offense, not provided the only one.
BlazingPedals is offline  
Reply
Old 07-28-14 | 09:09 PM
  #149  
GeneO's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,528
Likes: 152
From: midwest

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1

OMG. My worst nightmare and why I try to ride on trails. I am glad you are OK. With that kind of speed, a rear view mirror wouldn't help you avoid it. You are lucky to be alive. I really don't know the circumstances of the driver, but I hope justice is fairly doled out. I see drivers veer on and off the shoulder a lot, and pulling up besides them they are either texting (usually) or on their cell or dialing and distracted.

I haven't read every response, but it should be in the police investigation to recall the drivers cell phone records in such a serious accident.
GeneO is offline  
Reply
Old 07-29-14 | 11:16 AM
  #150  
scroca's Avatar
commuter and barbarian
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,494
Likes: 3
From: Potomac, MT, USA
Metric Man, I'm glad you survived and I hope you fully and quickly recover.

That was brutal.
scroca is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.