Quick, Fast and Hurry Up
10-09-14 | 05:03 AM
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From: northern michigan
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Quick, Fast and Hurry Up
Probably most of us here have delved into the realm of N+1, having different bikes for different purposes (one only has to look at the various forums here). Do you have a bike for that time when you have a need for speed?
10-09-14 | 05:09 AM
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From: Des Moines, Ia
Bikes: Trek Domane 5.2, Trek 520, Surly Straggler, Trek Roscoe 8, Fisher HK2
My go fast bike is my Trek Domane 5.2. For my general or quick rides I have my Surly Straggler. For slow I have a couple of mountain bikes
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10-09-14 | 05:10 AM
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From: Oakville Ontario
The only time my bikes go fast is when they are being hauled on or in a vehicle.
10-09-14 | 05:57 AM
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From: Not far from the Withlacoochee Trail. 🚴🏻
Bikes: 2018 Lynskey Helix Pro
Both of my bikes can go fast. I just can't keep up with them.
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I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. - Psalm 103:8
I am a cyclist. I am not the fastest or the fittest. But I will get to where I'm going with a smile on my face.
10-09-14 | 07:08 AM
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From: northern michigan
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
Come on guys, fast as it relates to YOU, not to the sprinters on The Tour. 
My 3 bikes have rather tight geometry for road racing. The Trek 760 is begging me to be rode hard but is not the fastest. When it's time to cut loose I top off the Michelins on the '88 Cannondale Criterium Series...the one with the Sakae Fx aluminum fork (more straight then stiff) and Vuelta wheels.
We all know the bike needs an engine and that too will be worked on in the offseason.
My 3 bikes have rather tight geometry for road racing. The Trek 760 is begging me to be rode hard but is not the fastest. When it's time to cut loose I top off the Michelins on the '88 Cannondale Criterium Series...the one with the Sakae Fx aluminum fork (more straight then stiff) and Vuelta wheels.
We all know the bike needs an engine and that too will be worked on in the offseason.
10-09-14 | 07:13 AM
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From: Yankeetown/Orlando, Florida
Bikes: Road Bikes: 2014 Giant Propel Advanced 1; 1989 Klein Quantum, 2013 Giant Defy 2, & Mountain Bike: 2013 Cannondale Six
My Propel is as fast as I need for most things...but I did a Time Trial recently and just couldn't keep up with the TT bikes with the full disc wheels on the back.
10-09-14 | 07:40 AM
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From: Lake Geneva, WI
Bikes: Ridley Helium SLX, Canyon Endurance SL, De Rosa Professional, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Schwinn Paramount (1 painted, 1 chrome), Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Raleigh Roker, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2
None of my bikes are built for the podium. My bikes are recreation century-ride bikes with triple crankset and relaxed geometry.
I have added a few features to the Pedal Force CG2 that provide a little more speed than my vintage or Cyclocross bikes.
Designed for tackling fast and hard long days in the saddle, the CG2 features a full carbon frame, tapered head tube, BB30 bottom bracket, internal cable routing, and a balanced geometry for a confidence-inspiring ride. It is available in eight sizes so you won't need to compromise on getting the perfect bike fit. More importantly the geometry was perfect for me with a 59cm VTT and a 210mm head-tube. So I took the plunge. At $450 for the frame and $100 for the fork, it was not a huge gamble.
When it arrived I was impressed. Very robust and large diameter head-tube, down-tube, BB area and chain-stays. The internal routing of the cabling was super-neat and the over-all quality was excellent. I built it up with my what-works-for-me Shimano 105 & Ultegra triple drivetrain. I later replaced the Velocity A23/Shimano wheelset for HED Ardennes wheels. It's now wearing Vittoria Corsa CX 700x25 tires on the 23mm wide rims.
Handling: Great stability using FSA compact bars. I’m also using a Profile Designs Stryke Aero-bars, and the bike remains very stable with excellent control with the aero-bars. I noticed some handling sluggishness at speeds of less than 15 mph. So this is more of a sports-bike than Criterion racer.
Ride: Putting a big rider on a big frame-size will often produce a complaint ride with some unwanted flex. The ride of the CG2 is generally complaint with an acceptable amount of filtered road feel. The frame has a slightly springy feel that I did not expect, the frame is not cast iron stiff. No unwanted flex, ever. The ride overall is better than the Soma steel bike made of Tange Prestige, and I feel less fatigue on the CG2 at 100 miles than with my prior Titanium or steel bikes. It really is a substantial difference. Is the CG2 as good as the best Carbon bikes from Specialized, Trek or other famous builders? I can’t say, but I have no complaints in the ride comfort of the CG2.
Having said all that, the bike might be too stiff for a light rider on a smaller frame.
Acceleration and maintaining speed: this is what it is all about. The bike added about 1 mph to the pace of my 60 mile fitness ride. The Aero-bars provide much of that improvement, along with the light race tires. The bike picks up speed with much less effort than my prior bikes. The bike holds speed with less effort also. I can hold approximately 18mph for 4 or 5 hours as a solo rider. That’s fast enough for me.
People often expect a carbon bike to be excessively expensive or not comfortable enough for longer rides. That might have been true 10 years ago, but carbon fiber is now better designed, provides great performance and is less expensive than expected.
I have added a few features to the Pedal Force CG2 that provide a little more speed than my vintage or Cyclocross bikes.
Designed for tackling fast and hard long days in the saddle, the CG2 features a full carbon frame, tapered head tube, BB30 bottom bracket, internal cable routing, and a balanced geometry for a confidence-inspiring ride. It is available in eight sizes so you won't need to compromise on getting the perfect bike fit. More importantly the geometry was perfect for me with a 59cm VTT and a 210mm head-tube. So I took the plunge. At $450 for the frame and $100 for the fork, it was not a huge gamble.
When it arrived I was impressed. Very robust and large diameter head-tube, down-tube, BB area and chain-stays. The internal routing of the cabling was super-neat and the over-all quality was excellent. I built it up with my what-works-for-me Shimano 105 & Ultegra triple drivetrain. I later replaced the Velocity A23/Shimano wheelset for HED Ardennes wheels. It's now wearing Vittoria Corsa CX 700x25 tires on the 23mm wide rims.
Handling: Great stability using FSA compact bars. I’m also using a Profile Designs Stryke Aero-bars, and the bike remains very stable with excellent control with the aero-bars. I noticed some handling sluggishness at speeds of less than 15 mph. So this is more of a sports-bike than Criterion racer.
Ride: Putting a big rider on a big frame-size will often produce a complaint ride with some unwanted flex. The ride of the CG2 is generally complaint with an acceptable amount of filtered road feel. The frame has a slightly springy feel that I did not expect, the frame is not cast iron stiff. No unwanted flex, ever. The ride overall is better than the Soma steel bike made of Tange Prestige, and I feel less fatigue on the CG2 at 100 miles than with my prior Titanium or steel bikes. It really is a substantial difference. Is the CG2 as good as the best Carbon bikes from Specialized, Trek or other famous builders? I can’t say, but I have no complaints in the ride comfort of the CG2.
Having said all that, the bike might be too stiff for a light rider on a smaller frame.
Acceleration and maintaining speed: this is what it is all about. The bike added about 1 mph to the pace of my 60 mile fitness ride. The Aero-bars provide much of that improvement, along with the light race tires. The bike picks up speed with much less effort than my prior bikes. The bike holds speed with less effort also. I can hold approximately 18mph for 4 or 5 hours as a solo rider. That’s fast enough for me.
People often expect a carbon bike to be excessively expensive or not comfortable enough for longer rides. That might have been true 10 years ago, but carbon fiber is now better designed, provides great performance and is less expensive than expected.
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When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
Last edited by Barrettscv; 10-09-14 at 10:45 AM.
10-09-14 | 08:06 AM
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From: northern michigan
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
None of my bikes are built for the podium. My bikes are century bikes with triple crankset and relaxed geometry.
I have added a few features to the Pedal Force CG2 that provide a little more speed than my vintage or Cyclocross bikes.
Designed for tackling fast and hard long days in the saddle, the CG2 features a full carbon frame, tapered head tube, BB30 bottom bracket, internal cable routing, and a balanced geometry for a confidence-inspiring ride. It is available in eight sizes so you won't need to compromise on getting the perfect bike fit. More importantly the geometry was perfect for me with a 59cm VTT and a 210mm head-tube. So I took the plunge. At $450 for the frame and $100 for the fork, it was not a huge gamble.
When it arrived I was impressed. Very robust and large diameter head-tube, down-tube, BB area and chain-stays. The internal routing of the cabling was super-neat and the over-all quality was excellent. I built it up with my what-works-for-me Shimano 105 & Ultegra triple drivetrain and HED Ardennes wheels. I’m now using Vittoria Corsa CX 700x25 tires on the 23mm wide rims.
Handling: Great stability using FSA compact bars. I’m also using a Profile Designs Stryke Aero-bars, and the bike remains very stable with excellent control with the aero-bars. I noticed some handling sluggishness at speeds of less than 15 mph. So this is more of a sports-bike than Criterion racer.
Ride: Putting a big rider on a big frame-size will often produce a complaint ride with some unwanted flex. The ride of the CG2 is generally complaint with an acceptable amount of filtered road feel. The frame has a slightly springy feel that I did not expect, the frame is not cast iron stiff. No unwanted flex, ever. The ride overall is better than the Soma steel bike made of Tange Prestige, and I feel less fatigue on the CG2 at 100 miles than with my prior Titanium or steel bikes. It really is a substantial difference. Is the CG2 as good as the best Carbon bikes from Specialized, Trek or other famous builders? I can’t say, but I have no complaints in the ride comfort of the CG2.
Having said all that, the bike might be too stiff for a light rider on a smaller frame.
Acceleration and maintaining speed: this is what it is all about. The bike added about 1 mph to the pace of my 60 mile fitness ride. The Aero-bars provide much of that improvement, along with the light race tires. The bike picks up speed with much less effort than my prior bikes. The bike holds speed with less effort also. I can hold 18.5 mph for 6 hours as a solo rider. That’s fast enough for me.
People often expect a carbon bike to be excessively expensive or not comfortable enough for longer rides. That might have been true 10 years ago, but carbon fiber is now better designed, provides great performance and is less expensive than expected.
I have added a few features to the Pedal Force CG2 that provide a little more speed than my vintage or Cyclocross bikes.
Designed for tackling fast and hard long days in the saddle, the CG2 features a full carbon frame, tapered head tube, BB30 bottom bracket, internal cable routing, and a balanced geometry for a confidence-inspiring ride. It is available in eight sizes so you won't need to compromise on getting the perfect bike fit. More importantly the geometry was perfect for me with a 59cm VTT and a 210mm head-tube. So I took the plunge. At $450 for the frame and $100 for the fork, it was not a huge gamble.
When it arrived I was impressed. Very robust and large diameter head-tube, down-tube, BB area and chain-stays. The internal routing of the cabling was super-neat and the over-all quality was excellent. I built it up with my what-works-for-me Shimano 105 & Ultegra triple drivetrain and HED Ardennes wheels. I’m now using Vittoria Corsa CX 700x25 tires on the 23mm wide rims.
Handling: Great stability using FSA compact bars. I’m also using a Profile Designs Stryke Aero-bars, and the bike remains very stable with excellent control with the aero-bars. I noticed some handling sluggishness at speeds of less than 15 mph. So this is more of a sports-bike than Criterion racer.
Ride: Putting a big rider on a big frame-size will often produce a complaint ride with some unwanted flex. The ride of the CG2 is generally complaint with an acceptable amount of filtered road feel. The frame has a slightly springy feel that I did not expect, the frame is not cast iron stiff. No unwanted flex, ever. The ride overall is better than the Soma steel bike made of Tange Prestige, and I feel less fatigue on the CG2 at 100 miles than with my prior Titanium or steel bikes. It really is a substantial difference. Is the CG2 as good as the best Carbon bikes from Specialized, Trek or other famous builders? I can’t say, but I have no complaints in the ride comfort of the CG2.
Having said all that, the bike might be too stiff for a light rider on a smaller frame.
Acceleration and maintaining speed: this is what it is all about. The bike added about 1 mph to the pace of my 60 mile fitness ride. The Aero-bars provide much of that improvement, along with the light race tires. The bike picks up speed with much less effort than my prior bikes. The bike holds speed with less effort also. I can hold 18.5 mph for 6 hours as a solo rider. That’s fast enough for me.
People often expect a carbon bike to be excessively expensive or not comfortable enough for longer rides. That might have been true 10 years ago, but carbon fiber is now better designed, provides great performance and is less expensive than expected.
10-09-14 | 08:17 AM
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Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;
My fastest bicycle is my 30-year-old 10kg Bianchi. As others have observed, once you obtain a bicycle of decent quality, performance is up to you.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
10-09-14 | 08:18 AM
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Bikes: '09 Trek 2.1 * '75 Sekine * 2010 Raleigh Talus 8.0 * '90 Giant Mtb * Raleigh M20 * Fuji Nevada mtb
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Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
10-09-14 | 08:55 AM
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10-09-14 | 09:03 AM
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From: northern michigan
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
10-09-14 | 09:05 AM
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From: northern michigan
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
10-09-14 | 09:40 AM
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From: northern michigan
Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712
10-09-14 | 10:32 AM
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10-09-14 | 10:40 AM
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Have bike, will travel
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From: Lake Geneva, WI
Bikes: Ridley Helium SLX, Canyon Endurance SL, De Rosa Professional, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Schwinn Paramount (1 painted, 1 chrome), Peugeot PX10, Serotta Nova X, Simoncini Cyclocross Special, Raleigh Roker, Pedal Force CG2 and CX2
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When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
When I ride my bike I feel free and happy and strong. I'm liberated from the usual nonsense of day to day life. Solid, dependable, silent, my bike is my horse, my fighter jet, my island, my friend. Together we will conquer that hill and thereafter the world.
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10-09-14 | 10:58 AM
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The TCR that I used to race is, pretty obviously, the "fast" bike. But only because it is set up more aggressively and I can go lower. On a technical descent I'm probably faster on the slightly heavier custom steel bike with the triple, because it handles a bit better and I'm more disposed to go for it on the turns.
EDIT. @Barrettscv that Serotta looks as if it would fit me perfectly, should you ever get bored with it...
EDIT. @Barrettscv that Serotta looks as if it would fit me perfectly, should you ever get bored with it...
Last edited by chasm54; 10-09-14 at 11:02 AM.
10-09-14 | 11:08 AM
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Bikes: 1999 DAHON Mariner, Day6 Semi Recumbent "FIREBALL", 1981 Custom Touring Paramount, 1983 Road Paramount, 2013 Giant Propel Advanced SL3, 2018 Specialized Red Roubaix Expert mech., 2002 Magna 7sp hybrid, 1976 Bassett Racing 45sp Cruiser
.......to stay with the guys I ride with and take a pull when it's my turn....CCBC Tuesday1 - YouTube No chance on that ride since I'm in El Paso watching grandsons.
Since Kittle and Degenkolb do pretty well on their Propel Advanced SL, I know there's lots more in my SL than I can ever hope to give it to live up to its capabilities.
Since Kittle and Degenkolb do pretty well on their Propel Advanced SL, I know there's lots more in my SL than I can ever hope to give it to live up to its capabilities.
10-09-14 | 11:20 AM
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Serious cyclists used to stop and admire the RB1.
10-09-14 | 11:39 AM
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Bikes: Genesis Equilibrium, Genesis Datum, Whyte 901, Dawes 701,1973 Harry Hall, 1989 Orbit America
.......to stay with the guys I ride with and take a pull when it's my turn....CCBC Tuesday1 - YouTube No chance on that ride since I'm in El Paso watching grandsons.
I was amazed at the cadence until I saw that the film was speeded up X2.