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Zapdaba 12-11-14 12:54 AM

A good bike...
 
A good bike disappears into the experience of riding it, the simple complexity of your stimulated perceptions and the true beauty of the floating world you pass through while riding. Time flies, but a good bike is a timeless machine.

rekmeyata 12-11-14 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Zapdaba (Post 17380019)
A good bike disappears into the experience of riding it, the simple complexity of your stimulated perceptions and the true beauty of the floating world you pass through while riding. Time flies, but a good bike is a timeless machine.

Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.

Zapdaba 12-11-14 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 17380984)
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.

I wasn't speaking on that level. Have you ever had a ride where you feel unhooked from the mechanics of routine and, briefly at least, in a state of mind not dominated or even formed by time?

But on the mechanical level, I believe astroarchaeologists have now determined that the first bicycles were formed shortly after the Big Bang; however, it took many billions of years before they wound up on Earth, via asteroids. So they are kind of timeless.

Gerryattrick 12-11-14 02:57 PM

I want some of what you're on. :)

JohnDThompson 12-11-14 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 17380984)
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.

Haven't you forgotten "N+1?"

Seriously, I still ride bikes from the 70s...

bruce19 12-11-14 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Zapdaba (Post 17381424)
I wasn't speaking on that level. Have you ever had a ride where you feel unhooked from the mechanics of routine and, briefly at least, in a state of mind not dominated or even formed by time?

Some of my life is like that. But, on the bike I (and others) call it "riding without the chain."

rekmeyata 12-11-14 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Zapdaba (Post 17381424)
I wasn't speaking on that level. Have you ever had a ride where you feel unhooked from the mechanics of routine and, briefly at least, in a state of mind not dominated or even formed by time?

But on the mechanical level, I believe astroarchaeologists have now determined that the first bicycles were formed shortly after the Big Bang; however, it took many billions of years before they wound up on Earth, via asteroids. So they are kind of timeless.

Well I guess that makes us timeless too.

bikemig 12-11-14 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Gerryattrick (Post 17381619)
I want some of what you're on. :)

That goes for me too.

BluesDawg 12-11-14 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 17380984)
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.

Buzzkill.

BlazingPedals 12-11-14 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by BluesDawg (Post 17382298)
Buzzkill.

It's our job.

Zapdaba 12-11-14 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by BluesDawg (Post 17382298)
Buzzkill.

I like you.

h2oxtc 12-12-14 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by bruce19 (Post 17381981)
Some of my life is like that. But, on the bike I (and others) call it "riding without the chain."

I like the quote ... there are some days that are just special like that!

Rick@OCRR 12-12-14 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by Zapdaba (Post 17380019)
A good bike disappears into the experience of riding it.

I've experienced that when the bike is working perfectly and I'm digging deep, in a struggle to get maximum power down, thinking the next pedal stroke, the next breath . . . but not about the bike. It does seem to disappear . . . !

It's there, of course, but your concentration is so completely focused on exceeding the perceived limitations of your body, not being consumed by the pain, pushing through the pain barriers, that there's nothing upstairs left to think about the bike.

Not during those intense moments.

Rick / OCRR

Zapdaba 12-12-14 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR (Post 17385325)
I've experienced that when the bike is working perfectly and I'm digging deep, in a struggle to get maximum power down, thinking the next pedal stroke, the next breath . . . but not about the bike. It does seem to disappear . . . !

It's there, of course, but your concentration is so completely focused on exceeding the perceived limitations of your body, not being consumed by the pain, pushing through the pain barriers, that there's nothing upstairs left to think about the bike.

Not during those intense moments.

Rick / OCRR

well said!

Zapdaba 12-12-14 10:50 PM

I rode my mountain bike (2.1 tires) to work two days ago. Not fun, even though it is a great mountain bike. My commute is 1.4 miles one way. It was like bringing a tuba to a Stairway to Heaven solo competition. A good bike off road. Not a good bike on road. Def not timeless.

GlennR 12-13-14 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 17380984)
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.

I agree and disagree.
Three years ago I purchased a new Trek Madone 4.6c and thought it would have it forever. Yesterday I ordered a Emonda SLR and put the Madone up for sale.

Forty years ago I purchased a new VW Beetle... Its timeless and I still have it.

bruce19 12-13-14 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 17385721)
I agree and disagree.
Three years ago I purchased a new Trek Madone 4.6c and thought it would have it forever. Yesterday I ordered a Emonda SLR and put the Madone up for sale.

Forty years ago I purchased a new VW Beetle... Its timeless and I still have it.

Wish I still had my '66 Corvette Coupe or my '74 Lotus Elan. :(

North Coast Joe 12-13-14 07:17 AM

There are more "good bikes" per square head in Colorado, Oregon and Washington. I do hear they're starting to appear in Alaska and D.C., though.

I do know the feeling Zapdaba's describing, though. Good rolling tires, silent drivetrain and soon you'll forget it's not part of your person.

rando_couche 12-13-14 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Gerryattrick (Post 17381619)
I want some of what you're on. :)

It's called "a bike".

K100Fran 12-13-14 10:23 AM

It's tough trying to class up a classless joint...

Gerryattrick 12-13-14 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by rando_couche (Post 17386001)
It's called "a bike".

Silly me. I hadn't realised that was what he was writing about.

And I was not thinking about a joint, classless or otherwise.

K100Fran 12-13-14 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by Gerryattrick (Post 17386139)
Silly me. I hadn't realised that was what he was writing about.

And I was not thinking about a joint, classless or otherwise.

of course it was said with a smile...:)

Wileyrat 12-13-14 11:22 AM

I think I have one of those "timeless" road bikes. I'm getting used to people coming up and admiring it for it's "timeless looks" until I realized most of those guys are either old like us and it takes them back to their younger days, or they're guys that weren't born when the bike was built.

rekmeyata 12-13-14 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 17385721)
I agree and disagree.
Three years ago I purchased a new Trek Madone 4.6c and thought it would have it forever. Yesterday I ordered a Emonda SLR and put the Madone up for sale.

Forty years ago I purchased a new VW Beetle... Its timeless and I still have it.

I never was much of a fan of VW Beetles new or old, but it is cool you kept it all those years so for you that would be timeless. I bought a 58 Plymouth Fury 2dr Golden Commando about 36 years ago and still own it, I guess that's timeless for me at least until I either sell it, I die, or a some sort of natural disaster befalls upon it. Nothing lasts forever, even the great Pyramids are falling apart.

GlennR 12-13-14 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by rekmeyata (Post 17386587)
I never was much of a fan of VW Beetles new or old,

They're not all slow.... 200hp, 5 speed and go kart handling ;)


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