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Old 12-11-14, 12:54 AM
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A good bike...

A good bike disappears into the experience of riding it, the simple complexity of your stimulated perceptions and the true beauty of the floating world you pass through while riding. Time flies, but a good bike is a timeless machine.
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Originally Posted by Zapdaba View Post
A good bike disappears into the experience of riding it, the simple complexity of your stimulated perceptions and the true beauty of the floating world you pass through while riding. Time flies, but a good bike is a timeless machine.
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.
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Old 12-11-14, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.
I wasn't speaking on that level. Have you ever had a ride where you feel unhooked from the mechanics of routine and, briefly at least, in a state of mind not dominated or even formed by time?

But on the mechanical level, I believe astroarchaeologists have now determined that the first bicycles were formed shortly after the Big Bang; however, it took many billions of years before they wound up on Earth, via asteroids. So they are kind of timeless.
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I want some of what you're on.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.
Haven't you forgotten "N+1?"

Seriously, I still ride bikes from the 70s...
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Old 12-11-14, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapdaba View Post
I wasn't speaking on that level. Have you ever had a ride where you feel unhooked from the mechanics of routine and, briefly at least, in a state of mind not dominated or even formed by time?
Some of my life is like that. But, on the bike I (and others) call it "riding without the chain."
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Old 12-11-14, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapdaba View Post
I wasn't speaking on that level. Have you ever had a ride where you feel unhooked from the mechanics of routine and, briefly at least, in a state of mind not dominated or even formed by time?

But on the mechanical level, I believe astroarchaeologists have now determined that the first bicycles were formed shortly after the Big Bang; however, it took many billions of years before they wound up on Earth, via asteroids. So they are kind of timeless.
Well I guess that makes us timeless too.
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Old 12-11-14, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerryattrick View Post
I want some of what you're on.
That goes for me too.
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Old 12-11-14, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.
Buzzkill.
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Old 12-11-14, 07:42 PM
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Buzzkill.
It's our job.
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Old 12-11-14, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg View Post
Buzzkill.
I like you.
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Originally Posted by bruce19 View Post
Some of my life is like that. But, on the bike I (and others) call it "riding without the chain."
I like the quote ... there are some days that are just special like that!
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Old 12-12-14, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapdaba View Post
A good bike disappears into the experience of riding it.
I've experienced that when the bike is working perfectly and I'm digging deep, in a struggle to get maximum power down, thinking the next pedal stroke, the next breath . . . but not about the bike. It does seem to disappear . . . !

It's there, of course, but your concentration is so completely focused on exceeding the perceived limitations of your body, not being consumed by the pain, pushing through the pain barriers, that there's nothing upstairs left to think about the bike.

Not during those intense moments.

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Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR View Post
I've experienced that when the bike is working perfectly and I'm digging deep, in a struggle to get maximum power down, thinking the next pedal stroke, the next breath . . . but not about the bike. It does seem to disappear . . . !

It's there, of course, but your concentration is so completely focused on exceeding the perceived limitations of your body, not being consumed by the pain, pushing through the pain barriers, that there's nothing upstairs left to think about the bike.

Not during those intense moments.

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well said!
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I rode my mountain bike (2.1 tires) to work two days ago. Not fun, even though it is a great mountain bike. My commute is 1.4 miles one way. It was like bringing a tuba to a Stairway to Heaven solo competition. A good bike off road. Not a good bike on road. Def not timeless.
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Old 12-13-14, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
Timeless? no someday the bike will have a failure and get replaced by a newer model, just like cars and other stuff, so nothing is timeless.
I agree and disagree.
Three years ago I purchased a new Trek Madone 4.6c and thought it would have it forever. Yesterday I ordered a Emonda SLR and put the Madone up for sale.

Forty years ago I purchased a new VW Beetle... Its timeless and I still have it.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
I agree and disagree.
Three years ago I purchased a new Trek Madone 4.6c and thought it would have it forever. Yesterday I ordered a Emonda SLR and put the Madone up for sale.

Forty years ago I purchased a new VW Beetle... Its timeless and I still have it.
Wish I still had my '66 Corvette Coupe or my '74 Lotus Elan.
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There are more "good bikes" per square head in Colorado, Oregon and Washington. I do hear they're starting to appear in Alaska and D.C., though.

I do know the feeling Zapdaba's describing, though. Good rolling tires, silent drivetrain and soon you'll forget it's not part of your person.
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Originally Posted by Gerryattrick View Post
I want some of what you're on.
It's called "a bike".
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It's tough trying to class up a classless joint...
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Originally Posted by rando_couche View Post
It's called "a bike".
Silly me. I hadn't realised that was what he was writing about.

And I was not thinking about a joint, classless or otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Gerryattrick View Post
Silly me. I hadn't realised that was what he was writing about.

And I was not thinking about a joint, classless or otherwise.
of course it was said with a smile...
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I think I have one of those "timeless" road bikes. I'm getting used to people coming up and admiring it for it's "timeless looks" until I realized most of those guys are either old like us and it takes them back to their younger days, or they're guys that weren't born when the bike was built.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2 View Post
I agree and disagree.
Three years ago I purchased a new Trek Madone 4.6c and thought it would have it forever. Yesterday I ordered a Emonda SLR and put the Madone up for sale.

Forty years ago I purchased a new VW Beetle... Its timeless and I still have it.
I never was much of a fan of VW Beetles new or old, but it is cool you kept it all those years so for you that would be timeless. I bought a 58 Plymouth Fury 2dr Golden Commando about 36 years ago and still own it, I guess that's timeless for me at least until I either sell it, I die, or a some sort of natural disaster befalls upon it. Nothing lasts forever, even the great Pyramids are falling apart.
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata View Post
I never was much of a fan of VW Beetles new or old,
They're not all slow.... 200hp, 5 speed and go kart handling
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