Saddles that only contact the sit-bones.
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Saddles that only contact the sit-bones.
Unfortunately, due to a medical condition (hydrocele), I cannot use any saddle that makes contact with my scrotum. It's like a night of hard drinking. I feel fine at the time, but I pay for it the next day. I only ride for fitness and enjoyment, so precise control is not needed. My current ride is a Nasbar TR1. I'm going to have to retrofit it with a noseless saddle.
So here are the sit-bone only saddles I know about:
-Spongy Wonder
-Spiderflex
-Nexride
What are some others? Any give me your opinions on these choices please.
So here are the sit-bone only saddles I know about:
-Spongy Wonder
-Spiderflex
-Nexride
What are some others? Any give me your opinions on these choices please.
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A riding buddy of mine has ridden his BiSaddle for many years. He's a randonneur and has ridden PBP on it. In his opinion there is no downside to this saddle.
Revolutionary Noseless Bicycle Saddle -
Yep, it's expensive, but it's the only saddle he can ride. I've looked into the saddles you mention as well as others, and don't think I'd like any of them.
Revolutionary Noseless Bicycle Saddle -
Yep, it's expensive, but it's the only saddle he can ride. I've looked into the saddles you mention as well as others, and don't think I'd like any of them.
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A riding buddy of mine has ridden his BiSaddle for many years. He's a randonneur and has ridden PBP on it. In his opinion there is no downside to this saddle.
Revolutionary Noseless Bicycle Saddle -
Yep, it's expensive, but it's the only saddle he can ride. I've looked into the saddles you mention as well as others, and don't think I'd like any of them.
Revolutionary Noseless Bicycle Saddle -
Yep, it's expensive, but it's the only saddle he can ride. I've looked into the saddles you mention as well as others, and don't think I'd like any of them.
Here is mine

Here is your buddy one

Bisaddle has even less room than the pro hub x2 which can be a problem knowing that we're sitting dynamically while riding which means we're constantly changing position. Bisaddle offers no margin. I don't buy it.
My advice is to go for the one that offers more grip as most of those saddle are likely to have the same downside of constantly sliding forward putting pressure on wrists and hands unless you plan to ride a cruiser.
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Here is mine
Here is your buddy one
Bisaddle has even less room than the pro hub x2 which can be a problem knowing that we're sitting dynamically while riding which means we're constantly changing position. Bisaddle offers no margin. I don't buy it.
My advice is to go for the one that offers more grip as most of those saddle are likely to have the same downside of constantly sliding forward putting pressure on wrists and hands unless you plan to ride a cruiser.
Here is your buddy one
Bisaddle has even less room than the pro hub x2 which can be a problem knowing that we're sitting dynamically while riding which means we're constantly changing position. Bisaddle offers no margin. I don't buy it.
My advice is to go for the one that offers more grip as most of those saddle are likely to have the same downside of constantly sliding forward putting pressure on wrists and hands unless you plan to ride a cruiser.
I don't see any reason why a rigid saddle which only differs from a traditional saddle in that it lacks a nose should cause one to place more weight on one's hands or to slide forward. The saddle should be properly adjusted level like any saddle, and positioned so that one is balanced on it with little weight on the hands - just like any saddle. Noseless saddles which pivot or have more oval shaped pads, such as Eric's, could certainly cause one to slide forward, either because the pad moves or because it has to be tilted down in front to avoid pressure on the upper thighs.
I would avoid any noseless saddle which is not shaped like a normal saddle back where one sits on it. I know that my nosed saddles have nothing on them to prevent me from sliding forward. They're just level and positioned correctly.
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I dunno, Eric. I've never seen a nosed saddle which was shaped like yours in its after parts. OTOH, the BiSaddle looks like a normal cut-out saddle minus the nose.
I don't see any reason why a rigid saddle which only differs from a traditional saddle in that it lacks a nose should cause one to place more weight on one's hands or to slide forward. The saddle should be properly adjusted level like any saddle, and positioned so that one is balanced on it with little weight on the hands - just like any saddle. Noseless saddles which pivot or have more oval shaped pads, such as Eric's, could certainly cause one to slide forward, either because the pad moves or because it has to be tilted down in front to avoid pressure on the upper thighs.
I would avoid any noseless saddle which is not shaped like a normal saddle back where one sits on it. I know that my nosed saddles have nothing on them to prevent me from sliding forward. They're just level and positioned correctly.
I don't see any reason why a rigid saddle which only differs from a traditional saddle in that it lacks a nose should cause one to place more weight on one's hands or to slide forward. The saddle should be properly adjusted level like any saddle, and positioned so that one is balanced on it with little weight on the hands - just like any saddle. Noseless saddles which pivot or have more oval shaped pads, such as Eric's, could certainly cause one to slide forward, either because the pad moves or because it has to be tilted down in front to avoid pressure on the upper thighs.
I would avoid any noseless saddle which is not shaped like a normal saddle back where one sits on it. I know that my nosed saddles have nothing on them to prevent me from sliding forward. They're just level and positioned correctly.
Leveling has nothing to do with it. Whatever how the saddle is placed there will still be pressure on hands and wrists or sliding forward unless one is riding in a more upright position like on a cruiser.
Here you can see where the sit bones lie down on the bisaddle (same goes for the pro hub x2, spongywonder, spiderflex, nexride, ddwings, tridtech, moonsaddle..)
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DavidPT40 once you've got your cruiser ready (handlebar closer to the saddle and way higher than the saddle) then any of these should do spongywonder, spiderflex, pro hub x2, easyseat 2...
Since they are pretty much at the same level i would go for the cheapest one.
(to increase grip you can use an anti-slip shoe pad)
More info here
(not all that i know of are here but most of them are)
Your guide to 16 noseless sperm-saving seats - Health & Families - Life and Style - The Independent
Bicycle seats that won?t cause impotence or prostate cancer
Since they are pretty much at the same level i would go for the cheapest one.
(to increase grip you can use an anti-slip shoe pad)
More info here
(not all that i know of are here but most of them are)
Your guide to 16 noseless sperm-saving seats - Health & Families - Life and Style - The Independent
Bicycle seats that won?t cause impotence or prostate cancer
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If you haven't tried a noseless saddle try one and you will understand what i mean
Leveling has nothing to do with it. Whatever how the saddle is placed there will still be pressure on hands and wrists or sliding forward unless one is riding in a more upright position like on a cruiser.
Here you can see where the sit bones lie down on the bisaddle (same goes for the pro hub x2, spongywonder, spiderflex, nexride, ddwings, tridtech, moonsaddle..)

Leveling has nothing to do with it. Whatever how the saddle is placed there will still be pressure on hands and wrists or sliding forward unless one is riding in a more upright position like on a cruiser.
Here you can see where the sit bones lie down on the bisaddle (same goes for the pro hub x2, spongywonder, spiderflex, nexride, ddwings, tridtech, moonsaddle..)

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As I said, my friend has ridden multiple 1200k brevets on his saddle, his bars are lower than his saddle, and on brevets other than PBP he uses aerobars. The pressure points on a BiSaddle would be identical to those on any well fitted nosed saddle with a cutout. I don't touch my nosed saddles anywhere but on my sitbones.
The pressure distribution above and below even shows where one sit and it's not like a nosed saddle, there is nothing in front of where the sit bones lie down.
Go try one then come back to me.
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When looking at the pictures above, how is the person seated on the saddle? Is he upright? Or is he in a lower position? Is the seat level? tilted up? or tilted down? How much does the rider weigh? How much weight is he supporting on his hands? How much pressure is exerted or released in pedaling?
Each and every point I mentioned can make a significant difference in how one's weight is distributed on the saddle. Withou any details, the above images are not particularly useful.
Each and every point I mentioned can make a significant difference in how one's weight is distributed on the saddle. Withou any details, the above images are not particularly useful.
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When looking at the pictures above, how is the person seated on the saddle? Is he upright? Or is he in a lower position? Is the seat level? tilted up? or tilted down? How much does the rider weigh? How much weight is he supporting on his hands? How much pressure is exerted or released in pedaling?
Each and every point I mentioned can make a significant difference in how one's weight is distributed on the saddle. Withou any details, the above images are not particularly useful.
Each and every point I mentioned can make a significant difference in how one's weight is distributed on the saddle. Withou any details, the above images are not particularly useful.
Also you could tell CDC guys how wrong they did their tests, their phone number can be found here
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/bike/
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SpongyWonder
I've used SpongyWonder saddles on both my bikes (hybrid & touring) for about 13 years, and have been really pleased. I was told by my urologist in 2002 (at age 52) to stop riding bikes - which was unthinkable - and I ordered a SpongyWonder shortly after. It took only a day or two to get used to the absence of the nose, and it completely solved my numbness problem. I average about 3000 km a year in around town riding, and tour every few years as well - I did the Pacific Coast bike route from Vancouver to Mexico last fall, another 3000km, without problems. For me this seat was a life changer.
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I have no experience with it, but another "alternative" saddle is MoonSaddle
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What about ISM Saddles? They are essentially a regular saddle with the nose cut off but still giving you enough saddle between your legs to aid steering. That's the downside of some of the completely noseless saddles is their lack of steering ability to the point where it can be almost dangerous.
J.
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+1. I couldn't get used to an Adamo Road that I borrowed from the LBS for a couple of weeks. The front of the saddle (which is not really a nose since the saddle is noseless) was too wide for me, even after following their setup guide. Presumably others find it fine as it is one of their bestsellers.
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+1. I couldn't get used to an Adamo Road that I borrowed from the LBS for a couple of weeks. The front of the saddle (which is not really a nose since the saddle is noseless) was too wide for me, even after following their setup guide. Presumably others find it fine as it is one of their bestsellers.
I don't use one but know quite a few people that do and that's the typical commentary on them. I think it would be worth a try because I think giving up too much of the seat between the legs is not a good idea for safety. You're losing a fair amount of control over the bike.
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Personally I like the Kontact saddle (kontactbike.com) because it positions you on your sit bones and has a narrow nose. The unique position of the rear portion allows the back of your thighs their full range of motion without rubbing the saddle. The inclusion of the narrow nose assists with bike handling while not being intrusive. It does take a few long rides to get used to, because your wight is shifted to your sit bones. They have a 30 day try before you buy program so it is worth a shot.
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