Top tube height
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Top tube height
I just purchased a Cannondale CAAD8 105 from a LBS. It's my first road bike and prior the purchase, the LBS owner had fitted me to the bike using an indoor trainer. The one thing he didn't do was make me check clearance through standover. I took my bike out for a ride the other night and noticed my goods were pressed against the top tube when straddled over the frame.. I'm 5ft 4in, torso is longer than my legs. My inseam is 71.3cm and the top tube height is 74.4cm. When straddled over the frame barefoot, I'd have to be on my toes to be somewhat "comfortable".. When wearing my cycling shoes, it's almost the same as when on my toes, but regardless, shoes or no shoes, my goods are pressed against the top tube. Should I be worried about this? Not sure if it's something I should bring up to the LBS owner.
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I also have proportionately short legs and level top tube bikes tend to fit me very tight when I'm straddling them. But the fit that matters is when you're riding, not standing.
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48cm would be a pretty small frame, and happens to the be the smallest size listed for the CAAD8. The Synapse apparently comes in a 44cm.
I ride what would be considered a snug fit with my bike. It has never been a problem, and I've never considered it to be a particular danger to the jewels. I have a habit of sitting on the top tube while stopped. Keep in mind, once riding, the top tube height is irrelevant.
I ride what would be considered a snug fit with my bike. It has never been a problem, and I've never considered it to be a particular danger to the jewels. I have a habit of sitting on the top tube while stopped. Keep in mind, once riding, the top tube height is irrelevant.
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In the days before slanted top tubes no one worried about standover clearance or the lack thereof.
Standover clearance only became a "thing" after bike manufacturers started making "compact" frames (slanted top tubes) so standover clearance became a feature to sell a bike. Then sales people started "sizing" a bike for customers based on standover clearance like it meant anything. Sizing a bike based on standover clearance is the least professional way to do it.
If the bike fits you when riding then it fits you. Standover clearance or the lack thereof is the last thing I would consider in a fit. Not the first.
For the record, I have short legs. If I can put 2 feet flat on the ground over the top tube then I have standover clearance whether anything is touching or not. On my first racing bikes I didn't even come close to putting 2 feet flat on the ground.
Anthony
Standover clearance only became a "thing" after bike manufacturers started making "compact" frames (slanted top tubes) so standover clearance became a feature to sell a bike. Then sales people started "sizing" a bike for customers based on standover clearance like it meant anything. Sizing a bike based on standover clearance is the least professional way to do it.
If the bike fits you when riding then it fits you. Standover clearance or the lack thereof is the last thing I would consider in a fit. Not the first.
For the record, I have short legs. If I can put 2 feet flat on the ground over the top tube then I have standover clearance whether anything is touching or not. On my first racing bikes I didn't even come close to putting 2 feet flat on the ground.
Anthony
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I only see 54 Cannondale CAAD8 5 Compact Bike - 2015 - REI.com
IDK what you actually got , measure the Bike .. seat tube length is "size"..
BITD the C'dale down tube was the only one welded to the head tube , for small sizes
the top tube lower on the down tube.. Big fat aluminum tubes made it work ..
maybe you wanted the brand and component mix and got that but the smallest size is just large.. For you ..
When you put down 1 foot, lean the bike to one side so it wont be as High..
Company web site : Cannondale Bicycles
IDK what you actually got , measure the Bike .. seat tube length is "size"..
BITD the C'dale down tube was the only one welded to the head tube , for small sizes
the top tube lower on the down tube.. Big fat aluminum tubes made it work ..
maybe you wanted the brand and component mix and got that but the smallest size is just large.. For you ..
When you put down 1 foot, lean the bike to one side so it wont be as High..
Company web site : Cannondale Bicycles
Last edited by fietsbob; 11-30-15 at 06:31 PM.
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In the days before slanted top tubes no one worried about standover clearance or the lack there of.
Standover clearance only became a "thing" after bike manufacturers started making "compact" frames (slanted top tubes) so standover clearance became a feature to sell a bike. Then sales people started "sizing" a bike for customers based on standover clearance like it meant anything. Sizing a bike based on standover clearance is the least professional way to do it.
If the bike fits you when riding then it fits you. Standover clearance or the lack there of is the last thing I would consider in a fit. Not the first.
For the record, I have short legs. If I can put 2 feet flat on the ground over the top tube then I have standover clearance whether anything is touching or not. On my first racing bikes I didn't even come close to putting 2 feet flat on the ground.
Anthony
Standover clearance only became a "thing" after bike manufacturers started making "compact" frames (slanted top tubes) so standover clearance became a feature to sell a bike. Then sales people started "sizing" a bike for customers based on standover clearance like it meant anything. Sizing a bike based on standover clearance is the least professional way to do it.
If the bike fits you when riding then it fits you. Standover clearance or the lack there of is the last thing I would consider in a fit. Not the first.
For the record, I have short legs. If I can put 2 feet flat on the ground over the top tube then I have standover clearance whether anything is touching or not. On my first racing bikes I didn't even come close to putting 2 feet flat on the ground.
Anthony
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I think top tube height is important but only if it actually hits your body when you get off the saddle, or if it causes you anxiety about getting hit. You should not become injured and you should not be anxious about the bike. But it's not a measure of actual fit "goodness." The modern concepts of reach and stack are much better indicators.
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It does sound like it's a bit big for you, but only a bit. It may not be a problem for you while riding. You can learn to straddle the bike by tipping it to one side or by lifting a leg a bit. This shouldn't be a deal breaker unless it is much too big for you. A snug stand over doesn't tell us enough, so either it's too big for you or it's close enough to the right size.
Is the seat all the way down? That would be a bad sign. When your foot is at the bottom of the pedal stroke, is your foot pointed down, or is it level? Is your knee straight or slightly bent?
Are you leaning very far forward, or is the saddle to handlebar fit comfortable?
Is the seat all the way down? That would be a bad sign. When your foot is at the bottom of the pedal stroke, is your foot pointed down, or is it level? Is your knee straight or slightly bent?
Are you leaning very far forward, or is the saddle to handlebar fit comfortable?
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The reach of a 48 cm CAAD 8 should be fine, maybe even a little short with the stock stem, for a 5'4" woman with a long torso. But I can empathize with your consternation about the lack of straddle clearance. Also, I'm thinking you might have difficulty getting the handlebar low enough, especially if your arms are at all proportional to your torso. Unfortunately, riders with non-average proportions have to put up with all sorts of compromises when fitting themselves to stock road bikes.
I'd certainly talk with the shop owner about how you feel. Were I in his situation, I'd gladly set you up on the bike you bought and the smaller edition, as comfortably and properly as I could, and let you ride them both for a day. A 44 with a longer stem and a little persistence with the fit is not an outrageous request. The last thing I'd want is a customer who is not confident she made the right purchase.
I'd certainly talk with the shop owner about how you feel. Were I in his situation, I'd gladly set you up on the bike you bought and the smaller edition, as comfortably and properly as I could, and let you ride them both for a day. A 44 with a longer stem and a little persistence with the fit is not an outrageous request. The last thing I'd want is a customer who is not confident she made the right purchase.
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