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Stem size and angles as it relates to mustache bars vs road drop bars

Old 12-04-22, 03:34 PM
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Stem size and angles as it relates to mustache bars vs road drop bars

So I know it is impossible to give exact answers but for those who have swapped between nitto mustache bars and drop bars (I know there a million different drop bars so don't worry about a particular drop bar just want to know your experience) or vise a versa what was the difference in stems lengths and angles between the two? Currently I have nitto mustache bars and a 80 mm stem with -17* drop. what would be a general change in stem specs going to something like a nitto b132 or 135 or noddle or similar bars? I posted a video in of my current set up in this thread if it helps. I like the mustache bars but figure on 60 mile and longer rides drop bars might be beneficial not that I have any complaints doing 50-60 mile rides with the mustache bars.

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Lower your stem as much as you can. If you don't see yourself staying in that position for very long then drops won't necessarily do anything for you. Mustache bars already give you the decent hand position similar to drops.

However I will say that I like the new short reach shallow drop bars that have been out for a while. The vintage bikes I rode for so long had drops with a huge amount of drop. Also, if you don't have STI's on those mustache bars, then you'll probably find the move to drops a little expensive due to the cost of STI's or dual control levers.
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
Lower your stem as much as you can. If you don't see yourself staying in that position for very long then drops won't necessarily do anything for you. Mustache bars already give you the decent hand position similar to drops.

However I will say that I like the new short reach shallow drop bars that have been out for a while. The vintage bikes I rode for so long had drops with a huge amount of drop. Also, if you don't have STI's on those mustache bars, then you'll probably find the move to drops a little expensive due to the cost of STI's or dual control levers.
I have a 1x11 with bar end shifter and that is what I will continue to use. I used to use bar end shifters back in the 80's so pretty used to them. I like riding on the drops of the mustache bars and rarely ride in any other position. I like the mustache bars but wouldn't mind doing shallow drops ie the nittos b132 or 135;s
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Hi Jeff,

Im your height and age, but run lighter. Maybe 1/2 shorter. I measured three other bikes of mine and all have the seat post 26 from the straightbars on mtb/trail bikes, and also 26 seat post to the top crosses of the drops on a Le Tour. The LeTour brakes are not as far forward of the crosses, as compared to the moustache bar of my xoxo.
I like the moustache bar, and would more if I were to move levers, but it would still be a reach for me. By measuring today I realized I am in a
four inch longer lean/stretch riding this bike, compared to most of or the rest of my remuda.

I grabbed an inexpensive senqui bar to
experiment. I will use my shortest SR first. I think it is 60mm. Then my arrangements allow for going farther in reach, in maybe 20 mm increments, or so.

Itll be a couple days yet, until I am able to manage this. And there wont be any riding yet, but I will be measuring and aligning things based on my other proven acceptable bike positions across the others.

It seems to me Ill find a good fit by bringing my brake hood hand position back by 2.5-3.5 inches. This bar itself brings me an inch or so closer. The longer stems are out I think. Likely to be using the 60mm.

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My other concern is drop width. 51 cm feels wide for me. Swapping to the others brings me closer to shoulder width at 42cm
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My other concern is drop width. 51 cm feels wide for me. Swapping to the others brings me closer to shoulder width at 42cm
I will be interested to see how it goes. I wish the stems came with removable face plates to make bar swapping easier.
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I like narrower drop bars. 38cm ideally. I rode with 42 cm bars on my previous bike for 4 years and though it was okay, I seemed to feel too braced and bore more of the road forces. My new bike came with 42 cm bars too, but changing them to 38 cm let me get rid of that braced feeling I had and the road forces get absorbed over a greater portion of my body. 38 cm bars were predominate on many of my older bikes I use to have.

If your elbows ever bother you, then consider if it is the wide hand spread.

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Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
I will be interested to see how it goes. I wish the stems came with removable face plates to make bar swapping easier.
They do. You just have to get a threadless adapter and a stem for a threadless steerer tube. Though I think I have seen some quill stems with a face plate to let you change bars easily without having to undo the tape from them and remove levers.

But if you are changing bars, you usually will have to take that stuff off anyway to put on the new bars.
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
They do. You just have to get a threadless adapter and a stem for a threadless steerer tube. Though I think I have seen some quill stems with a face plate to let you change bars easily without having to undo the tape from them and remove levers.

But if you are changing bars, you usually will have to take that stuff off anyway to put on the new bars.
I was talking about streetsurfer's and my bike. we both have xoxo's. yes velo orange and nitto both make 1' quill stems with removable face plates but
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