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I got my bike repainted at Marinoni in Februrar and had an Athena 8 speed grouppo. I wanted to increase my cassette with a bigger range beyond my 12-28 but with that hub, it was impossible. So given its age, and the difficulty in finding parts for the few years they ran 8 speeds, I decided to totally rebuild my bike and decided to go with the beautiful silver Campy 11 speed Centaur grouppo.with a Campy Scirrocco wheelset. But once the bike was put together, I was aghast at how radically everything felt after having my old ride fitting like a glove. It was all to do with the shifters which have changed radically since my steeply raked Athenas. First, the Centaurs have a much longer flat part between the bar and the start of the hood's rise, plus that flat part is just so long. So first, I got a 80 cm stem which helped a bit, then I rotated the bars upwards which both increased the angle, but also angled the brake levers outwards at the same time. I can;t see that those shifters have any adjustment screw for that as of yet. Anyway, desperately seeking help from what seems to be a knowledgable crowd. Other steps I might try:- a 60 cm stem and my shop showed me some older 3T bars that have recesses for the shifting cables(nice) and have the bars curve downwards in a shorter distance from the top part of the bar. And ideas appreciated and looked to find issues like mine but failed so far.. Thanks in advance. Unfortunately, I was told only after that I need 10 posts to load a photo.
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Drop bars now have shorter reach to them as well as a shallower drop than many of the old style drop bars from BITD. And some of the old bars just don't seem to get STI's or whatever Campy's name is for them at the right angle to the bar.
So maybe a new bar and maybe a shorter stem yet. I really like the new shallow reach shallow drop bars that we have today. They let you stay on the hoods in a more aero position than did the old bars.
Most of us like the hoods pointed almost straight ahead to have the body almost parallel to the ground. Some might angle them inward too.
Oh, I found your picture of the bike...
https://www.bikeforums.net/g/picture/33656173
Till you get the 10 posts and maybe a day later, all you need to do is tell us you uploaded to the Gallery and we can find it.
I'd want those shifters a little further down the curve and the bar rotated so the top of the bar is more horizontal. But that's going to leave those drops pointing more downward. Which you might actually like, but other tend to think looks funny. My drops point toward the rear hub. Some people tell me I'm wrong for that.
That old style "7" stem will be a issue for many things to come. If you are industrious enough, you might want to consider changing it to threadless. But that takes some brazing experience or money for someone else's experience. But you can get adapters that have a quill on the end but allow for a pista type stem.
So maybe a new bar and maybe a shorter stem yet. I really like the new shallow reach shallow drop bars that we have today. They let you stay on the hoods in a more aero position than did the old bars.
Most of us like the hoods pointed almost straight ahead to have the body almost parallel to the ground. Some might angle them inward too.
Oh, I found your picture of the bike...
https://www.bikeforums.net/g/picture/33656173
Till you get the 10 posts and maybe a day later, all you need to do is tell us you uploaded to the Gallery and we can find it.
I'd want those shifters a little further down the curve and the bar rotated so the top of the bar is more horizontal. But that's going to leave those drops pointing more downward. Which you might actually like, but other tend to think looks funny. My drops point toward the rear hub. Some people tell me I'm wrong for that.
That old style "7" stem will be a issue for many things to come. If you are industrious enough, you might want to consider changing it to threadless. But that takes some brazing experience or money for someone else's experience. But you can get adapters that have a quill on the end but allow for a pista type stem.
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The Soma Highway One compact drop bar is available with a 26.0 mm clamping diameter. The flat top and short reach are designed to work better with dual control levers. https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar
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Threaded to threadless adapters are cheap and work perfectly. Then one has access to a zillion inexpensive stems. Google "Threaded stem to threadless adapter".
Do as Iride01 suggests. You'll probably slightly change your hand position on the hoods so that the outside edge of the heel of your hand rests on the hood/bar top. I did exactly this many years ago on my bike. Works great.
What's happened is that our standard position on a road bike has changed somewhat over the decades and bike build configuration has changed to accommodate it. We adapt our position to suit the new technology. It's all fine.
Do as Iride01 suggests. You'll probably slightly change your hand position on the hoods so that the outside edge of the heel of your hand rests on the hood/bar top. I did exactly this many years ago on my bike. Works great.
What's happened is that our standard position on a road bike has changed somewhat over the decades and bike build configuration has changed to accommodate it. We adapt our position to suit the new technology. It's all fine.
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These bikes all use older 3TTT bars and Campagnolo 10 speed brifters. You can see how they line up with the top of the bars. Very comfortable, once you find a stem of the right length.
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I was curious though what that is sticking out above the stem cap on the Trek in the top picture. Just a mount point for something?
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As for the colors . . . I am no big fan of dull bikes! Even plain old silver bikes deserve to pop. (Edit to clarify: that handlebar tape is, ahem, aubergine.)
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