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Old 11-30-15 | 08:20 PM
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I have my Speed P8, and I'd like to know if I'm going to run into issues converting it to IGH. The rear derailleur isn't a standard type, as the hanger is part of the derailleur itself. Will a chain tensioner work here? I guess that's my main question. I'm going with a Nexus 8 speed hub, with rim brakes. I'm hoping there won't be a problem,...

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Wait,...all you pros and no assistance??? What gives,...???
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Old 12-02-15 | 04:37 PM
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Pros ? shall we negotiate the terms of payment first? < Rattles Tin cup for tips >

You could go by NYCewheels they make money selling things. Folding bikes & compact bicycles by Brompton, Dahon, Tern & Montague – NYCeWheels.com

sure you can Buy an add on derailleur hanger then Get a Chain tensioner (Paul's Melvin for example?)

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I have my Speed P8, and I'd like to know if I'm going to run into issues converting it to IGH. ...
Yes.

AFAIK, the only Dahon Speed frame with horizontal drop outs is the Speed Uno. It has a coaster brake and no bosses for v-brakes. I don't know if it feasible to add those.

FWIW, I am a BIG fan of IGHs.

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It can be done with vertical drops like on the Speed 8 (I've done it a couple of ways).. one is to install a EBB for standard BB .. I used a Forward Components on my Titanium 2 speed Sachs Automatic, but Trickstuff has one also..






Another is to play with gears to come up with a 'magic ratio' ... having a 1/2 link on hand helps ..

Other methods is to use something like a Singulator which mounts to the existing hanger, or there are chainstay mounted tensioners, like a Kore

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So there are options for running the Nexus with vertical ends.. here's one I just converted for a customer to an Alfine SG S7000 that didn't need a tensioner, but the Moulton has a modified long vertical drop out that allows some adjustability...

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Wait,...all you pros and no assistance??? What gives,...???
Well your question involved a Dahon Speed P8... not quite on the pro's list of folders.


Jeez, I'm kidding! Just wanted to ruffle some feathers! So let's talk religion or politics...


Oh, BTW, Bruce... did I ever mention how much I'd like to find out where you live so that I can rob you of your bikes?
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I actually own a bike that I have converted to IGH that I use a chain tensioner with. It's my Puma Nevis, and it works amazingly well. My Speed P8 is designed differently, as it doesn't have a built in place to just add a chain tensioner.

I'm not going to mess with the bottom bracket, as that won't affect my using an IGH. What I'd luv to know is if anyone could suggest a tensioner that could work with the Speed P8, so I would maintain proper tension on the chain. I'm liking the Kore tensioner suggestion,...or just going 1/2 link. I'm a huge fan of half link chains. A half link, sized correctly, should eliminate the need for a tensioner.
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Oh, BTW, Bruce... did I ever mention how much I'd like to find out where you live so that I can rob you of your bikes?
Yeah, you're a ways away, but if you ever make it to Marin, look me up, I still have a few bikes knocking about that we could go out on ..... I'm hacking my Airnimal Chameleon as we speak... should be a burner if I ever finish..
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What I'd luv to know is if anyone could suggest a tensioner that could work with the Speed P8,


Looking at this, you could probably use the Neos and just lock it into position..

or, remove it and bolt a Singulator or the like up to the mounting hole..

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I think it can be done.....
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Looking at this, you could probably use the Neos and just lock it into position..

or, remove it and bolt a Singulator or the like up to the mounting hole..

I think I might be ordering one shortly from one of you guys. Thanks, again, Bruce!!!
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