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Old 04-17-19, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultralight View Post
Here you go. All I had on my camera was a wide angle lens for a quick snap. A longer lens would have been much better but that's the best I have time for. If my schedule was 'normal', I would be doing a review....

Basically, I think of Bromptons as the smallest package relative to wheel size among folding bikes. (Meaning the % of protusion relative to wheel size is small.) But the Helix, using the same formula, is actually even more efficient. The two wheels are on top of each other and the frame is BELOW the wheel's top edge. Just beautiful engineering. Everyone of the joints are double locking so that if the primary fail, there is still a secondary for backup and safety. OK, over and out.

I'll be keeping an eye out on user impressions.

If it's good, hopefully this will go mainstream.
Generally, I tend to not be the first buyer, but more the 9th buyer of things.
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Old 04-17-19, 01:33 PM
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For some reason that picture makes me think of The DeLorean.
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Old 04-17-19, 09:18 PM
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DeLorean - that is going waaay back. Yes, I can see that - the titanium and also an unconventional physical look.

As to impressions, I put up a review thread. Hopefully others will follow suit.
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Old 04-22-19, 08:55 AM
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Youtube review


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Old 04-28-19, 12:22 PM
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Latest update is posted.
Difficulties in assembly are being solved, & a new assembler will start Monday.
20 bikes have been shipped.
Another 30 are ready but for awaiting forks & steerers.
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Old 04-28-19, 02:30 PM
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Production

Also, one part that delayed the assembly process considerably was simplified, saving much assembly time. Right now, they are two months behind schedule. From now on, expecting three bikes per day.
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Old 04-29-19, 01:53 AM
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Peter and his small team seem to not only be perfectionists, but also resourceful to match, and that is a rare combination. Perfectionists that adhere to plan at all costs are not hard to find. Having the vision to extend the design to fit the real requirements as they unfold is something to be appreciated. I wish them and the rest of us (waiting for their bikes) success!
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Old 05-02-19, 06:45 PM
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I've been a long-time lurker on here, having talked myself out of being a backer originally as I couldn't convince myself to take the risk. I followed this thread for a long time and, if I'm honest, I had become pretty pessimistic about the chances of the bikes materializing as time went on. I had probably written it off as never gonna happen about a year ago and hadn't checked back here in quite a while.
Even though I don't have a horse in the race I'm still delighted that bikes are getting delivered, albeit slowly.
Of course, now I wish I had pulled the trigger and would be getting my bike in the next few months. I'm still sold on the product and will no doubt will be in line for one at some point once production catches up with the backlog. No doubt I'll be paying a lot more than I would have done as a backer :-(
Kudos to everyone who took the chance on what looks like it has turned out to be a really nice bike. I never would have thought it would come good after so long.

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Old 05-03-19, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Robmac123 View Post
I've been a long-time lurker on here, having talked myself out of being a backer originally as I couldn't convince myself to take the risk. I followed this thread for a long time and, if I'm honest, I had become pretty pessimistic about the chances of the bikes materializing as time went on. I had probably written it off as never gonna happen about a year ago and hadn't checked back here in quite a while.
Even though I don't have a horse in the race I'm still delighted that bikes are getting delivered, albeit slowly.
Of course, now I wish I had pulled the trigger and would be getting my bike in the next few months. I'm still sold on the product and will no doubt will be in line for one at some point once production catches up with the backlog. No doubt I'll be paying a lot more than I would have done as a backer :-(
Kudos to everyone who took the chance on what looks like it has turned out to be a really nice bike. I never would have thought it would come good after so long.
I hear you on the risk. Bikes up to 30 has now shipped it seems so the production is starting to accelerate. I had a long exhausting day and upon soming home right before sunset, pointed my Helix up hill and went for a 20 minutes hard ride. Still marveling at how nicely it rides. So yes, I do recommend it and now when you order, there is confidence that you will indeed get the bike barring anything catastrophic.
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Old 05-11-19, 12:30 PM
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If I could stick the following:

1. Brooks saddle.
2. Brompton front bag clip
3. e-bike upgrade

This would be pretty close to my ideal bike.

For now, I'll see how it plays out.
Still like my (used) brompton.
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Old 05-11-19, 03:27 PM
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Mounting a Brooks saddle (or any other standard rail saddle) shouldn't be a problem.

But the two others seems almost impossible.

The Brompton front block will hit the lefty fork when turning right. You must wait for the proprietary Helix front bag mounting.

eBike upgrade seems very difficult.
- a front hub motor would need a lefty fork compatible hub motor.
- a bottom bracket motor will probably cause problem to fold the bike
- a rear hub motor is maybe possible but Helix has very special dropouts that will make the mounting more difficult.
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Old 05-11-19, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jipe View Post
Mounting a Brooks saddle (or any other standard rail saddle) shouldn't be a problem.

But the two others seems almost impossible.

The Brompton front block will hit the lefty fork when turning right. You must wait for the proprietary Helix front bag mounting.

eBike upgrade seems very difficult.
- a front hub motor would need a lefty fork compatible hub motor.
- a bottom bracket motor will probably cause problem to fold the bike
- a rear hub motor is maybe possible but Helix has very special dropouts that will make the mounting more difficult.
The Helix will have a rear hub motor option (only the model with 11 speed cassette), they have already been working on that; it will take some time to be offered but they have mentioned it a few times (incl. a picture of the motorized wheel).
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Old 05-15-19, 10:06 PM
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Congratulations to the Inventor & Developer (Peter?) of the Helix. 24" wheels pretty cool.Interesting design and fold.
Haven't been following the bike forums like I 'used to been' but delighted with the looks of this.

Recently toured around Brussels on my Ti-Swift and was happy to have that bike with me (so easy to transport) & fun to ride.
I have become a folder advocate again! Next project is to get my old Raleigh 20 back on the road.
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Old 05-16-19, 02:43 PM
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So what are the odds of this taking off and becoming mass-produced? If so, what price could it be sold at? I'm wondering if it would come down to the base level for a Brompton ($1500-1600, right?).

Congratulations to the Helix team and its supporters. I stopped reading the thread because it was a repetition of naysayers and supporters on the same old arguments. I confess I wasn't exactly expecting it to work, but definitely hoped it would. Can't imagine any fans of folders not wanting a great new entry into the folding bike industry.
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Old 05-17-19, 02:45 AM
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That's de point: what is the production price of Helix ?

The combination of titanium and a very complex design requiring many CNC machined specific parts normally means a high production price.

There were already many posts about that without any real conclusion.

Offering an eBike version of Helix is I think very important for the commercial success of the project because there is now a very high demand for an electric assist folding bike and the market of the not assisted folding bikes is more or less stagnating.
Moreover, it is possible to sell an assisted eBike for a much higher price than a not assisted bike meaning higher margins for eBikes what would help a lot Helix (look at the price of the eBrompton: the price difference between the eBrompton and Brompton seems to me much higher that the additional costs of the electric assist).
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Update

There has been an update.
"Over 40 bikes" delivered thus far. Integrating a comprehensive quality control system from scratch has taken a long time and resources. The team has grown and another machine is due, as well as a second work shift. They are now planning how to gradually catch up with the back log and also to update the software.
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Old 05-22-19, 05:45 PM
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Pretty disappointed at how far behind schedule they are, but glad to see that the team has expanded and hear (again) that their pace is increasing. The team photo is entirely comprised of older (well mid 30s and up) guys, which probably and hopefully means that Peter's perfectionism extends to team assembly. They look like a team with plenty of experience, anyway

It seems like I'll never get my bike this year at the current pace, but I can dream. Anyone else got theirs yet?
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It seems like I'll never get my bike this year at the current pace, but I can dream. Anyone else got theirs yet?
At the current pace, mine should arrive in 2023.
But I expect assembly to pick up, since much
current effort is devoted streamlining production.
Perhaps by the time mine is due, I'll get fenders,
an electric hub, & titanium cup holder.
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Old 05-23-19, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kraftwerk View Post
Congratulations to the Inventor & Developer (Peter?) of the Helix. 24" wheels pretty cool.Interesting design and fold.
Haven't been following the bike forums like I 'used to been' but delighted with the looks of this.

Recently toured around Brussels on my Ti-Swift and was happy to have that bike with me (so easy to transport) & fun to ride.
I have become a folder advocate again! Next project is to get my old Raleigh 20 back on the road.
As in a titanium swift folding bike? Can you post a pic?
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Old 05-23-19, 06:22 PM
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As in a titanium swift folding bike? Can you post a pic?
Titanium Swift frame, anyone interested?

Closer to halfway through you will find photos that visible.
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Closer to halfway through you will find photos that visible.

That is amazing, seriously considering that ti swift frameset from aliexpress, do you know if anyone bought one and posted about it?
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TWOBRIDGES<
If you do a search and read the WHOLE thread (its a bit long) you will find stories of happy customers who had ordered Ti Swift's
( there was about 10 approximately... ) There are photos too. Mine got a lot of attention in Brussels last month, I tell ya.

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Is this bike in stock, or is it a custom-order with a long wait? Is the factory in Taiwan? I'm unfamiliar with this bike and the ordering and manufacturing process.
Thank you.
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Is this bike in stock, or is it a custom-order with a long wait? Is the factory in Taiwan? I'm unfamiliar with this bike and the ordering and manufacturing process.
Thank you.
Dude, this is a 3+ year long thread about this bike that you have posted in. Maybe just read up a bit to know the saga?
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Originally Posted by ImplodingVoice View Post
Is this bike in stock, or is it a custom-order with a long wait? Is the factory in Taiwan? I'm unfamiliar with this bike and the ordering and manufacturing process.
Thank you.
It isn't clear if you are asking about the Helix or the Ti Swift (which, for some reason, found it's way into this thread).
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