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linberl 11-14-16 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by shrooms (Post 19190897)
BF charges $55 to build a wheel plus the prices of components and shipping. Danscomp.com is a better place to build custom wheels because to build a wheel and shipping will be free if you pay for parts.

My personal choices to order a custom wheelset with DT swiss 350 hubs or buy one from China. I bought a set from China with Novates D041SB/D042SB hubs which are almost as good as DW Swiss ones. Can't beat a $142 set with a nice sealed bearings hubs, double wall rims, and 32 spokes wheels.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NOVA...9-3b5ba19e0b43

So $142 fro two wheels is a great deal. It says dis brake, though, and I have rim brakes. Will they work? Can you tell me what specs you ordered so I don't screw it up (but with v brakes)? Obviously you are happy with them - how long have you had them? How long did it take to get them? I just checked danscomp-custom wheels aren't free shipping :-(

fietsbob 11-14-16 12:48 PM

I Hope The idea that you [your bike shop] can substitute a MTB Length Longer Axle, in a road length hub was understood.

around Here there are lots of Woods so Lots of Mountain Biking..

The basement has a few Broken Rear wheel , the Rim damage has the wheel replaced.

so there are spare Axles and spacers to convert a 130, to 135 for very little money.

You say You desire to replace the shift lever Too, this would be the time ,, get that 8 speed replacement.

linberl 11-14-16 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 19191134)
I Hope The idea that you [your bike shop] can substitute a MTB Length Longer Axle, in a road length hub was understood.

around Here there are lots of Woods so Lots of Mountain Biking..

The basement has a few Broken Rear wheel , the Rim damage has the wheel replaced.

so there are spare Axles and spacers to convert a 130, to 135 for very little money.

You say You desire to replace the shift lever Too, this would be the time ,, get that 8 speed replacement.

I found the conflicting opinions on whether using spacers would require redishing a little off-putting. The cost of a 130mm wheel, new axle, spacer, and redishing comes pretty close to the same as a new 135mm wheel which I wouldn't have to mess with. It's not just a matter of a longer axle, right? There's more to it than that. So if I'm going to buy a new wheel anyway, why not get the right size?

fietsbob 11-14-16 01:18 PM

5mm is 5 mm if you can tolerate the tire being Off Center to the right tat half CM, Fine.

I just worked in Bike Shops . As I said we have perfectly good used Parts to re Use..



I understand your desire to cut costs , where you Live is Really Expensive, and that is non Negotiable.




I was to have my 50th High school reunion , in Napa. this Year, but I haven't been there since my Father died .. 16 years ..





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badmother 11-14-16 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by linberl (Post 19191045)
So $142 fro two wheels is a great deal. It says dis brake, though, and I have rim brakes. Will they work? Can you tell me what specs you ordered so I don't screw it up (but with v brakes)? Obviously you are happy with them - how long have you had them? How long did it take to get them? I just checked danscomp-custom wheels aren't free shipping :-(

I think I remember somebody posting some weeks ago about buying a BF for his GF and the bike arrived with disc hubs so the front wheel was dished. Personally I would not pay full price for two new wheels with disk brake hubs on a bike that can not use disc brakes...

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here it is: http://www.bikeforums.net/folding-bi...-question.html

I use BA`s on my NWT and I am sure there are no space for those tyres in the fork if I try to fit a wheel like this. Why buy extra hassle at full price is what I would ask myself.

I keep spare wheels ready for use so I would not face this problem. I do what Fietsbob say. Take good MTB hubs from wheels where the rim is toast and build what you need. I keep one set of wheels for my white folder with studded tyres for winter so I just swap wheels twice a year. Those wheels is alos spare wheels for summer if disaster strikes.

You may not need studded tyres where you are.. :)

I would go for the recumbent wheel, you get tyre tube and casette included. Just ask them first to be sure.

shrooms 11-14-16 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by linberl (Post 19191045)
So $142 fro two wheels is a great deal. It says dis brake, though, and I have rim brakes. Will they work? Can you tell me what specs you ordered so I don't screw it up (but with v brakes)? Obviously you are happy with them - how long have you had them? How long did it take to get them? I just checked danscomp-custom wheels aren't free shipping :-(

With the Chinese wheels you can use calipers or V-brakes or disc brakes all depends on your bike. My specifics are 406 rims 25mm wide, 32h spokes, 100mm front and 135mm rear, Quick Release. Also, freehub for 8+ speed cassette. So, every specific is similar to yours.
I ordered the wheels a few days ago because I had to get them on sale. Today and tomorrow they are again on sale. Once I get them I can share my feedback. I made a lot of research before I was ready to purchase.
The Novatec hubs have cartridge bearings which I can replace myself once they get bad there are many quality options. Also, the hubs are a bit heavier because they have Cr-Mo steel axles which is another plus for durability.

There other retailers on aliexpress if you want rims with machined finish. Search "406 novatec wheelset" you will see a few more options.

linberl 11-14-16 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by shrooms (Post 19192278)
With the Chinese wheels you can use calipers or V-brakes or disc brakes all depends on your bike. My specifics are 406 rims 25mm wide, 32h spokes, 100mm front and 135mm rear, Quick Release. Also, freehub for 8+ speed cassette. So, every specific is similar to yours.
I ordered the wheels a few days ago because I had to get them on sale. Today and tomorrow they are again on sale. Once I get them I can share my feedback. I made a lot of research before I was ready to purchase.
The Novatec hubs have cartridge bearings which I can replace myself once they get bad there are many quality options. Also, the hubs are a bit heavier because they have Cr-Mo steel axles which is another plus for durability.

There other retailers on aliexpress if you want rims with machined finish. Search "406 novatec wheelset" you will see a few more options.

Thanks for the specs. I am going to hold off doing anything and would really appreciate you posting back once you have these and can give a review. I will live with the noise until then - it's not going to hurt anything. Every single wheel I've seen that is decent is $115 and up (including a couple slightly used ones) so this is a pretty great deal if the quality is really there. I'm sure they will go on sale again when I am ready, so please post or PM once you've ridden them a bit. I also like that I'm not paying for the cassette since I will use my 7 speed for a while and then use a 9 or 10 speed with a 34t max. Again, thanks!

Rick Imby 11-15-16 06:33 AM

I guess I missed what bike this was on. The Chinese hubs are 100mm front, I think all the Dahon and Terns use the 74mm front hub. You can see the wear track on the side of the rims indicating they will work for rim brakes.

leoho5 11-20-16 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by blakcloud (Post 19189680)
Can you explain to me how this works? It is just a spacer so the OLD is correct for 135 but you still need a longer axle so that some of the axle is protruding to fit into the dropouts.

135 axles are 146 mm in length, 130 are 141. That 5 mm has to come from somewhere.

Am I missing something here?

Actually, the adapter is only for QR axles and goes over the end of the original QR hub thereby extending it by 5mm.

linberl 11-28-16 12:12 AM

I emailed to see if this wheel is 135mm or 130mm. If it is 135mm, do you think it would work for my bike? The price is well within my ballpark. $50 on sale plus $20 shipping. Utah Trikes - Rear Wheel - 20in - TerraTrike Freehub - TerraTrike OEM Rim - Silver

Joe Remi 11-28-16 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by linberl (Post 19217529)
I emailed to see if this wheel is 135mm or 130mm. If it is 135mm, do you think it would work for my bike? The price is well within my ballpark. $50 on sale plus $20 shipping. Utah Trikes - Rear Wheel - 20in - TerraTrike Freehub - TerraTrike OEM Rim - Silver

Yep, it'll work fine, and that's a good deal from a great shop. I'm 99% sure it's 135, I don't think trikes ever use 130.

linberl 11-28-16 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Remi (Post 19217549)
Yep, it'll work fine, and that's a good deal from a great shop. I'm 99% sure it's 135, I don't think trikes ever use 130.

Yes, they just confirmed it is 135mm. I ordered it. Really happy to finally get a replacement wheel that I know will fit, that is sturdy. I have a spacer for my 7 speed (which fortunately has 3 rivets so I don't have to notch it). Once my 7 speed cassette wears out, I will upgrade to a 9 speed, I think.


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