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Old 12-15-17 | 12:30 AM
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What is the trend /future of bicycles?

Bicycle had been invented for more than 100 years. What is the future or trend of bicycles? Electrical ? Smart bike?
AI or auto-riding bike? I just watched some videos on YouTube, the AI robotics are so scary.
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Old 12-15-17 | 02:27 AM
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More niche ebikes I’d say.
There’s one corner of the market that seems quite under explored - ebikes for riders who just want a bit of help.
Not all want the 1000W motors and the huge and heavy battery pack turning the bike into something else.
I like riding.
Don’t want a thinly disguised moped.
For unloaded or lightly loaded city/urban riding - and My fondness for pedaling - I don’t need high watt motors.
I have access to sockets both home and at My destination, I don’t need a huge battery capacity.

But 2x16 miles of commuting, particularly during winter conditions - meaning studded tires, inches of snow/slush etc. is quite tiring.
I’d like to see ebikes nearly indistinguishable from regular bikes, built for riders who only want a bit of help.
I’m guessing, but 50W extra consistently would probably do wonders for cancelling out the influence of snow and heavy tires. It’d be like summer riding all year.
And 1-2 hour battery life would do me fine.
With a design that doesn’t cause drag when unpowered, an ebike like this would be rideable/enjoyable even with a flat battery.
Someone else might use a similar setup to be able to ride with stronger riding buddies.
Or maybe a clean-looking SS with hill- and takeoff assistance ”only”. No E-cruise ability.
E-bike folders that don’t get too heavy to carry.
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electric bikes will become more popular as battery technology improves and costs reduce.
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Old 12-16-17 | 12:21 AM
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Probably better marketed as "Augmented bikes" that give a proportion of power wrt the pedalling.
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Old 12-16-17 | 02:43 AM
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As new lighter materials become available at affordable prices racing bikes will continue to drop in weight maybe 5kg or less is achievable. As fossil fuels become more expensive and damage to the environment is more evident more efficient single person vehicles will become the norm including e-bikes although I feel single person micro cars will become more popular to protect those from the elements while travelling. So pedal assist micro cars could be a possibility. I guess e-bikes with fairings could become more common resembling lightweight motorcycles with the fairings including solar panels. Same for for fully enclosed rider vehicles with a lot of the bodywork having such panels.

I think as more people switch to e-bikes but want comfort and protection from the elements the pedal assist will become less important and reduced as the bikes increase in weight to offer such protection. Fully enclosed e-bikes resembling fully enclosed motorcycles of today could be common.
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Old 12-16-17 | 04:09 AM
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I think bicycle is the best and pollution free solution to transport.
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Old 12-16-17 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dabac
More niche ebikes I’d say.
There’s one corner of the market that seems quite under explored - ebikes for riders who just want a bit of help.
Not all want the 1000W motors and the huge and heavy battery pack turning the bike into something else.
I like riding.
Don’t want a thinly disguised moped.
For unloaded or lightly loaded city/urban riding - and My fondness for pedaling - I don’t need high watt motors.
I have access to sockets both home and at My destination, I don’t need a huge battery capacity.

But 2x16 miles of commuting, particularly during winter conditions - meaning studded tires, inches of snow/slush etc. is quite tiring.
I’d like to see ebikes nearly indistinguishable from regular bikes, built for riders who only want a bit of help.
I’m guessing, but 50W extra consistently would probably do wonders for cancelling out the influence of snow and heavy tires. It’d be like summer riding all year.
And 1-2 hour battery life would do me fine.

With a design that doesn’t cause drag when unpowered, an ebike like this would be rideable/enjoyable even with a flat battery.
Someone else might use a similar setup to be able to ride with stronger riding buddies.
Or maybe a clean-looking SS with hill- and takeoff assistance ”only”. No E-cruise ability.
E-bike folders that don’t get too heavy to carry.
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There are already some systems developed like friction drive small umits. Some of them like Share roller can be used on several bikes.
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Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana
As new lighter materials become available at affordable prices racing bikes will continue to drop in weight maybe 5kg or less is achievable.
Factory 4.5kg is available today - all it takes is a charge card. Not light enough? Well under 3kg is possible if you know the right people.

A folding bike will be heavier - its structure is interrupted by hinged elements fitted in robust mounts. Still, many of the ideas and components used in those flyweight bikes above could be applied to a folder.

With dieting and exercise , I wonder what today's lightest bike that will fold to, oh, say fit in the frunk of a Tesla Model S could weigh? Dahon Hammerhead:

Dahon Hammerhead.jpg

I've seen both bikefridays and Bromptons in the trunk of a late model Porsche 911, but both had to be partially disassembled. Hmm. A factory fold Curl might fit...

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In 1888 Mr. Dunlop re-invented Mr. Thomson's 1847 pneumatic tire, blessing cyclists with low rolling resistance and a cushioned ride and cursing cyclists with flats ever since.

So work continues on non-pneumatic tires. Every few years a new non-pneumatic will hit the market with great fanfare. They've been universally miserable.

This hasn't stopped garage inventors and huge corporations from trying, though, and who knows what the future might hold? Here's Bridgestone's latest prototype air-free cycle tire:

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Originally Posted by badmother
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There are already some systems developed like friction drive small umits. Some of them like Share roller can be used on several bikes.
I am actually testing one
so far so good
astonishing good actually
and not expensive like 300 bucks
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Old 12-16-17 | 02:22 PM
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Factory 4.5kg is available today - all it takes is a charge card. Not light enough? Well under 3kg is possible if you know the right people.

A folding bike will be heavier - its structure is interrupted by hinged elements fitted in robust mounts. Still, many of the ideas and components used in those flyweight bikes above could be applied to a folder.

With dieting and exercise , I wonder what today's lightest bike that will fold to, oh, say fit in the frunk of a Tesla Model S could weigh? Dahon Hammerhead:

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I've seen both bikefridays and Bromptons in the trunk of a late model Porsche 911, but both had to be partially disassembled. Hmm. A factory fold Curl might fit...
Impressive weights on those bikes. Now the wait as the technology filters down to mass market prices. Just thinking about folding bikes, some of the old folding bikes from the 60s and 70s weigh the same as many of the budget folding bikes of today at around 15-16kg but then maybe those early folding bikes wouldn't meet the same safety standards of today. I guess a greater influx of lower weight sub 10kg carbon folding bikes is coming too. Currently prices are a bit too high for mass acceptance.
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Montague has an interesting folder at the intersection of several of these points, the Boston ZE:

Montague Electric Bikes - Boston ZE

I'd be more interested in it if it didn't have the cell phone integration, which is why I'm planning on a Geoorbital wheel for my Montague Swissbike X50 (which I have almost finished kitting out).

I'd really like to see a design like to the Helix (or the Helix when it begins shipping) which had 26" wheels and an electric option.
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Very light bike with integrated gps/map coordination and built in brake lights/signals. Optional contained motorization units with long range and light weight that snap on/off. Modular systems that allow configuration quickly from single rider to cargo or passenger mode.
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I am actually testing one
so far so good
astonishing good actually
and not expensive like 300 bucks
Sounds good if you live in the US of A but when it reaches my place it`ll be twice the price with shipping and costums and...

Been thinking of strapping a rechargable drill to my bike with a friktion thingy installed
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