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Old 05-30-19, 10:43 AM
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Has anyone noticed that the front cables come out far in front of the stem. If the picture is right this could be an issue. I assume that it is because of the front rack add on but without the rack looks like trouble. Looks like this bike is all about the ride.
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Old 05-30-19, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldingStyle View Post
I think it's interesting as a project, but it's too heavy, a little expensive, has too many steps to fold; in the end we'll see how it goes on the market.
Comparison with Brompton:


However there was already a 20" bike with vertical folding, and it was more compact. Nyfti Raio 2.0 (35 x 45 x 75 cm)35
x 47 x 75 cm.35 x 47 x 75 cm.
So, has anyone on this forum ridden a NYFTI? What's it like to ride? Durable??
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Old 05-31-19, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pahana View Post
Has anyone noticed that the front cables come out far in front of the stem. If the picture is right this could be an issue.
No biggie. This is common on bikes with folding handleposts and adjustable handlebars: Dahons and their design emulators Downtube, Origami, Tern, etc.
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Old 05-31-19, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FolderBeholder View Post
In my opinion what separates the Brompton from nearly all other mainstream folders....it’s part of the “X-factor” in their design: that the handlebars require NO adjusting to fold or after unfolding.
All designs have compromises of some sort. The one-size-fits-most Brompton frame combined with the non-adjustable handlebars yields some degree of rider adapting to the bike rather than the other way around. Then, to keep the fold flat with those non-adjustable handlebars, Brompton must place the brake levers directly beneath the handgrips



rather than at the ergonomically better angle nearly every other bicycle manufacturer in the world uses



My BikeFriday tikit doesn't require adjusting the saddle or handlebars to fold/unfold. That bike's compromise is a relatively large fold (particularly for a 16" bike).

Lots of choices in the market; pick the compromise that works for you.
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Old 05-31-19, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldingStyle View Post
However there was already a 20" bike with vertical folding, and it was more compact. Nyfti Raio 2.0 (35 x 45 x 75 cm)
The Raio looks like it could be a nice bike. Too bad it doesn't seem to be available outside of the Philippines. It's does the Brompton rear wheel under thing, though less tightly. It can take rack and fenders, which is a must for me. At <~$500, the price is right, if that's what the price would be in the US.

He says something about the Brompton, but I don't know what:
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Old 05-31-19, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wilfried View Post
The Raio looks like it could be a nice bike.
There are 3 hinges rather than 2 and the drivetrain stays exposed in the folded bike. For the price, though, the bike would be worth a consideration.

Incidentally, if every folding bike gets compared to X, you get a message that you should actually go with X if you can afford it .
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Old 08-23-19, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FolderBeholder View Post
In my opinion what separates the Brompton from nearly all other mainstream folders....it’s part of the “X-factor” in their design: that the handlebars require NO adjusting to fold or after unfolding.
The Birdy’s handlebars do not require adjustments too in the folding and unfolding.
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Old 08-23-19, 09:06 AM
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Not interested in this at all. Its overpriced, overweight, and that weird fold doesn’t seem to make the bike more portable.
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Old 08-23-19, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dropbear View Post
The Birdy’s handlebars do not require adjustments too in the folding and unfolding.
Neither does the Dahon Vitesse, but I usually just ignore the Brompton fanboy chatter.
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Old 08-26-19, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wesgreen View Post
Neither does the Dahon Vitesse, but I usually just ignore the Brompton fanboy chatter.
Not " fanboy chatter"; Brompton seems to be largely the standard by which others are typically measured. For good, bad or otherwise.

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Old 08-27-19, 04:59 AM
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Stupid price for the new Tern BYB. I’ll keep my old Dahons and Bromptons.
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Old 08-28-19, 09:56 AM
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The rear rack design is a bit strange on the BYB. It's offset to the right side. Not sure why. Only thing I could thing of is that it's because it has "low rider" rails instead of a full flat top rack, so the right pannier needs to be pushed further outward to clear the derailleur. And not having a full flat top rack means that you can't carry boxes or anything bulky. Although the frame appears to have extra eyelets so that you can mount your own rack.
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Old 08-28-19, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wilfried View Post
The Raio looks like it could be a nice bike. Too bad it doesn't seem to be available outside of the Philippines. It's does the Brompton rear wheel under thing, though less tightly. It can take rack and fenders, which is a must for me. At <~$500, the price is right, if that's what the price would be in the US.

He says something about the Brompton, but I don't know what:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrFvcfM4QE
He said the Raio makers loved the Brompton fold, but it's expensive. So they came up with a folding bike within a lower budget, not B priced nor Dahon entry level price.

They ship worldwide.
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Old 08-29-19, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bmxfolderbike View Post
He said the Raio makers loved the Brompton fold, but it's expensive. So they came up with a folding bike within a lower budget, not B priced nor Dahon entry level price.

They ship worldwide.
If there's a way to get 1 I'm actually interested,...
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Old 08-29-19, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by wilfried View Post
It does the
Di Blasi

rear wheel under thing...
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Old 09-02-19, 08:59 AM
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I think a flat top rear rack with even more offset on the right (but not beyond the pedal width) would be more functional for standing and trolleying. Looks like they just stuck on office chair casters. I wonder if the weight penalty is better than just 2 single wheels.
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Old 09-04-19, 12:23 PM
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I also wonder about how they decided on those spoke numbers.
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