ORI - Best in 16" wheel class?
01-06-08 | 06:18 PM
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You probably can't put a hub gear on there because of chain slack issues when folded.
It also looks like you have to remove the front wheel in order to get a compact fold.
With all those other bikes the OP has, and now pimping this bike, "shill" comes to my mind. But 'tis the season I guess.
Merry Christmas!
It also looks like you have to remove the front wheel in order to get a compact fold.
With all those other bikes the OP has, and now pimping this bike, "shill" comes to my mind. But 'tis the season I guess.
Merry Christmas!
01-07-08 | 12:47 AM
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Small wheels ARE better!
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You don't have to remove the front wheel - and the fold is a 10sec job. very easy and straightforward. See here for demo (albeit rather more violent than my usual folding routine. Gloves aren't necessary. Since buying, I spent a fair part of a year on a mad multimode commute that at times involved multiple (packed) trains and had to fold and refold, and had no problems at all.
Definitely worth having a ride. A quality bike, that is well priced for what you get - manufacturing standards are high, finish is pretty much unscratchable (anodised, not powder coated), luggage system that is more elegant and more practical (I think) than the Brompton. All together very well thought out. Could do with an extra top gear, but I sorted by replacing the rear hub with a Capreo hub and smaller Capreo cassette. The bike as been around for about 3 years now, and has been slowly upgraded, so is a fairly well tested concept, with a fair few around in London. Although the stem looks odd, its practical and well engineered - providing a better fold and more space in the cockpit. Again, worth trying out before criticising.
As I've said in other threads, the comparator here is the Birdy, not the Brompton - its like a hard tailed Birdy,which is not a bad thing. Indeed a Birdy riding friend (who grew up on road bikes and) prefers its ride.
I generally discount A to B on the basis that they overate Bromptons and their reviews can sometimes be a bit um unreliable. Peter Eland was incredibly generous in his review in Velovision a couple of years back. (For those who haven't subscribed yet, Velovision is by far the best cycling mag out there by some way)
Definitely worth having a ride. A quality bike, that is well priced for what you get - manufacturing standards are high, finish is pretty much unscratchable (anodised, not powder coated), luggage system that is more elegant and more practical (I think) than the Brompton. All together very well thought out. Could do with an extra top gear, but I sorted by replacing the rear hub with a Capreo hub and smaller Capreo cassette. The bike as been around for about 3 years now, and has been slowly upgraded, so is a fairly well tested concept, with a fair few around in London. Although the stem looks odd, its practical and well engineered - providing a better fold and more space in the cockpit. Again, worth trying out before criticising.
As I've said in other threads, the comparator here is the Birdy, not the Brompton - its like a hard tailed Birdy,which is not a bad thing. Indeed a Birdy riding friend (who grew up on road bikes and) prefers its ride.
I generally discount A to B on the basis that they overate Bromptons and their reviews can sometimes be a bit um unreliable. Peter Eland was incredibly generous in his review in Velovision a couple of years back. (For those who haven't subscribed yet, Velovision is by far the best cycling mag out there by some way)
Hi Matt,
Glad you are enjoying your Ori. Nothing like a satisfied owner testifying to the quality of the bike, and not from shills. I would love to compare the Ori with the 2 16" bikes that I have, the Brompton and the Tikit. Perhaps we can trade notes after a test ride. If its worth its salt, I will certainly add the Ori to my fold.
Not sure about comparing the Ori to Birdys since I think its designed as a commuter than a tourer. But I really have a problem getting used to its goose neck stem... Thanks for sharing.
OnF
01-07-08 | 04:38 AM
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You don't have to remove the front wheel - and the fold is a 10sec job. very easy and straightforward. See here for demo (albeit rather more violent than my usual folding routine. Gloves aren't necessary. Since buying, I spent a fair part of a year on a mad multimode commute that at times involved multiple (packed) trains and had to fold and refold, and had no problems at all.
01-07-08 | 02:15 PM
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To fold or not to fold?
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The Mezzo comes in hub geared form as the Mezzo i4, with a 4 speed Nexus hub. Perhaps not the ideal hub, but apparently quite serviceable. There are no chain slack issues - the fold incorporates a chain tensioning device. All v clever. Having said that, I've never seen a Mezzo i4 out in the wild...
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01-07-08 | 03:53 PM
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Very good Matt52. But there will be a lot of skepticism until more people are exposed to the bike.
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01-07-08 | 04:52 PM
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01-27-09 | 03:38 AM
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sorry, just rereading this old tread, I thought it would be a good place to reask the question " any problems converting a mezzo/ori to cespro hub? I was told by UK distrbutor that the chain would catch the chain stay. Is this a case of people not knowing their product?"
01-27-09 | 05:19 AM
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I have a Swift with a straight bar and my wife has a Brompton with the M-bars. I weigh 195 pounds/88.8 kg. There's a marked difference between the two in terms of their flex. I mean the bikes, though the same can be said of the people. Whereas the Swift is very stiff, the Brompton has quite a lot of flex up front in the stem riser and bars and some also in the frame. The Brompton flexes more than a new Dahon Mu or new Dahon Speed, though I have not ridden a recent model-year Dahon that has been "broken in" and gotten flexier with use. Perhaps then these two Dahons would feel less stiff than the Brompton?
01-27-09 | 01:11 PM
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01-28-09 | 07:30 AM
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This may be what I've been looking for
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01-28-09 | 05:48 PM
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Since the thread was resurrected...
I have a Swift with a straight bar and my wife has a Brompton with the M-bars. I weigh 195 pounds/88.8 kg. There's a marked difference between the two in terms of their flex. I mean the bikes, though the same can be said of the people. Whereas the Swift is very stiff, the Brompton has quite a lot of flex up front in the stem riser and bars and some also in the frame. The Brompton flexes more than a new Dahon Mu or new Dahon Speed, though I have not ridden a recent model-year Dahon that has been "broken in" and gotten flexier with use. Perhaps then these two Dahons would feel less stiff than the Brompton?
I have a Swift with a straight bar and my wife has a Brompton with the M-bars. I weigh 195 pounds/88.8 kg. There's a marked difference between the two in terms of their flex. I mean the bikes, though the same can be said of the people. Whereas the Swift is very stiff, the Brompton has quite a lot of flex up front in the stem riser and bars and some also in the frame. The Brompton flexes more than a new Dahon Mu or new Dahon Speed, though I have not ridden a recent model-year Dahon that has been "broken in" and gotten flexier with use. Perhaps then these two Dahons would feel less stiff than the Brompton?
