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garagegirl 03-12-08 12:57 AM

Formula One BMX small wheeler on ebay
 
I came across this crazy thing and thought some of you might be into it-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=025

chainstrainer 03-12-08 01:17 AM

How does it fold? Isn't this just a kid's bike? Why would this be of interest to this forum?
So many questions. I think I know the answers, though.

Diode100 03-12-08 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by chainstrainer (Post 6327348)
....... Why would this be of interest to this forum?

The advert uses the word ''steel'' four times, that's enough to get people excited around here.

chainstrainer 03-12-08 01:30 AM

I guess there should be a "Steel" forum then. I'm an aluminum man myself. I know, I know - don't start up anything, okay?

alecw35 03-12-08 02:16 AM

Think thats got a few upgrades

Dura Ace mech

I saw one in Richards bicycle book.
Seems like a good bike

Dahon.Steve 03-12-08 03:40 AM

I like the geometry of the bike. I happen to think this bike would make a very good folder as the geometry is aggressive instead of being straight up.

jur 03-12-08 03:51 AM

I've seen one or two of these on the net over the years. They're collectable.

social suicide 03-12-08 06:54 AM

Any bike folds. I had a Sears Spyder when I was 9 that folded under my Mom's Chrysler station wagon.....

LittlePixel 03-12-08 07:01 AM

I think this is definitely of interest because this forum informally embraces the non-folding minibike... :)

Ok so here's what I know about F1 BMX. Definitely not a kids bikes - F1 BMX series was a short-lived series in 1988 for fast and loose dirt racing on the flat with geared frames and pursuit geometry.

I love these frames and they're pretty rare - there was another like this on the Fixed Gear Gallery a couple of years ago that had had the fixie treatment;

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005...CC_aol_2-1.jpg
Will's Fixed Gear Schwinn Qualifier


Only a few manufacturers made frames; Diamondback F1, Schwinn Qualifier, Haro Dart... Anyone know any others?

http://bmxmuseum.com/image/f1..3_lg.jpg
http://bmxmuseum.com/image/f1side_lg.jpg
A Haro Dart

See also the the Mongoose Moosegoose also for larger sized BMX frames (very similar to the minibikes popular in Asia and the new non-folding Dahons)
http://collection.rydjor.com/images/...on/1979mon.jpg
Mongoose Moosegoose

I'm sure someone here turned an F1 into a nice tourer... [goes and looks]...
Yes - here
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...0&d=1145710703

There a fair few threads here if you search for 'moosegoose' 'f1' or 'minibike'

Also you can get replica frames made new: Rockfish:
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2007...sGrinder-1.jpg

Lastly - don't do this: It's not big or clever. Look at the rake!
http://www.grinderbikes.com/diamondback_01.jpg

alecw35 03-12-08 07:12 AM

there cool bikes

not sure of the mongoose tho

brakemeister 03-12-08 09:07 AM

very short lived ...... Shimano driven actually , they made a group for those bikes. They invisioned Parking lot racing , just like BMX racing on dirt. We made a few bikes at the time ( velo Schauff ) after riding them ( the little frames ) we concentratet more on MTB instead. BMX was huge around that time, but the sales were going down, hence the new idea about F 1 bikes ....
thor

garagegirl 03-12-08 09:51 AM

I'm glad you showed up littlepixel! I actually posted this here because I saw your post on a blog about them when I was trying to research what this thing was.

4cmd3 03-12-08 10:07 AM

freaking awesome!

what size wheels are those? 406 or 451?

LittlePixel 03-12-08 01:12 PM

I think they're all 406 though 451s would be excellent in one of those frames if you can manage to make them fit...

@ garagegirl- you're welcome! I don't need many excuses to go off on one about minibikes, especially vintage ones...

James H Haury 03-13-08 02:37 PM

It is good to be reminded of these bikes . I like the fat Bmx tires ( i did the same thing with my BF Metro)on that last bike pumped up hard they are probably comfortable and still fast.I would go with moustache bars not drops.It would be nice to get a hold of one those but they are probably out of my financial reach.

senseamp 03-14-08 08:18 AM

http://houston.craigslist.org/bik/604519458.html

I went to look at this yesterday. Too small for me (and my wife was sat in the car frowning). Maybe someone else will save it?

social suicide 03-15-08 05:13 PM

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Cool. Non folding minibke. What the ?%#* is this?

brakemeister 03-15-08 05:52 PM

Thats a burro .... super super cool indeed.. however its VERY Expensive I mean very ... and the tires are heavy, meaning they wont ride like the the bikes we are ued to ... But on sand or just cruisng along they are hot...

thor

phatatude 03-15-08 09:21 PM

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These bikes are sweet... I need to focus here! The last thing I need is another bike project... I guess I could start lookin for next winter's project? :)

alecw35 03-16-08 04:11 AM

oh think my Lil blue bikes going under the spanner

how hard are those guys cornering?

sooperb

Sammyboy 03-16-08 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by LittlePixel (Post 6327889)
Lastly - don't do this: It's not big or clever. Look at the rake!
http://www.grinderbikes.com/diamondback_01.jpg

Au contraire Rodney, it's not big, but it's definitely clever, and rather awesome! Also, don't talk 20" fork rake with me, unless you can top this:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...2/Image073.jpg

trentschler 03-16-08 07:17 AM

A few months ago I built a mini partly inspired by the BMX F1 bikes. I described the design and build in my blog:

http://www.tonyrentschler.com/Bicycl...struction.html

http://idisk.mac.com/w.rentschler-Pu...s/IMG_0800.jpg

http://idisk.mac.com/w.rentschler-Pu...s/IMG_0809.jpg

alecw35 03-16-08 03:29 PM

I saw your website Trentschler

loads of good bikes I want...cant afford....dont have the tools to build...

Ive built chopped bikes with lots of rake on forks...
Still got those long forks in the shed have to build a bike for them

sahadev 03-16-08 04:00 PM

Great looking bike! Loved reading your complete and well written story. I would love to be able to build my own frames. That would truly qualify as "building up" a bike.

Keep up the great work.

James H Haury 03-16-08 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by trentschler (Post 6351422)
A few months ago I built a mini partly inspired by the BMX F1 bikes. I described the design and build in my blog:

http://www.tonyrentschler.com/Bicycl...struction.html

http://idisk.mac.com/w.rentschler-Pu...s/IMG_0800.jpg

http://idisk.mac.com/w.rentschler-Pu...s/IMG_0809.jpg

How did you make /what did you use for the handlebar stem?I picked up( someone discarded it.) a 20"wheeled bmx frame and am thinking of making it usable for my 5'8" self who likes to sit upright.

alecw35 03-17-08 04:30 AM

looks like ahead set forks with a tapered riser tube
clamps onto the fork tube then goes thinner at top for the stem

I built up my 3speed BMX
I used bars from a scooter...you used to get them with 12" mag wheels
The bars are simmilar to BMX ones but they were a bit higher.
I widened the ends to take proper grips/levers and bar ends.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...5/BMXclose.jpg

LittlePixel 04-29-08 06:12 AM

Jus' bumping this thread as a nice Haro Dart (fixie) turned up today on the FGG
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2008/apr/4/JoePesci.htm
Love the pursuit wheel combo of 406/451!

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2008...JoePesci-1.jpg

4cmd3 04-29-08 10:35 AM

Involuntary reaction: "Dude that's nice!"

alecw35 04-29-08 01:00 PM

is that bare steel?

cool

phatatude 04-29-08 01:13 PM

I found a guy here in the states that still makes these frames, his name is Nick (he lives on the East coast)... I emailed him (when this thread first started) and he emailed back, but he has been to busy for us to get any further than that in the process. They are relatively cheap and he sometimes sells them in various states of finished... Thomas Grinder is the guy from earlier on in this thead ,who owns the Orange one, bought his from Nick. At this point I kinda consider Thomas a friend since we have started emailing each other pretty regularly now. He lives in Colorado, and builds really flippin sweet bikes. The bikes he builds are usually single speeds (He calls his bikes "Grinders"). I recently talked him into keeping an R-20 he found to rebuild it. He has a differnt slant on things so his R-20 should be one to take note of when its done. The dude knows his poop...

He has a blog and a bike site...

Blog is http://grinderswheels.blogspot.com/
Site is http://grinderbikes.com/

R-20's : They can still hold their own....

come check the progress...
http://web.mac.com/phatatude/Green_S...enty_Blog.html


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