Only thing worth changing imo is tyres,chainring guard, and shorter cage mech.
I tend to upgrade brake blocks and cables as a matter of course on folders.
Get rid of the chain catcher if fitted by installing,paffic chain tensioner near bottom bracket as mk 4 come with standard. To avoid the catcher getting jammed in cassette. Expensive if happens. I had to buy new rear mech.
Hence I dont run the chain catcher anymore on my birdies. Its not an issue on an IHG bike.
Else prefference for saddles,grips and peddles as usual.

I located where I got the idea that Birdy Disk was hydraulically actuated: from the Riese & Muller site:

https://www.r-m.de/en-gb/folding-bike/birdy/#

"Hydraulic disk brakes
The fastest route to a standstill.
The hydraulic Shimano Deore disk brakes deliver maximum performance, no matter what the weather. The large brake disks allow the braking effect to be distributed most effectively. They don’t produce rim wear and impress with their consistent braking performance."

Anyone?

Yes, Mark III is the latest generation Birdy. USD1,850 sounds about right for the Standard model. The Ten-speed, Touring with SRAM DualDrive, and the Rohloff models will be more. Unless you really want/need a Birdy, you'd do better to spring for a Reach which actually costs less.

Looks like it's $ 2,450 on their site

USD1,850 is Singapore price.

Is the Mark 2 worth getting for $1,500 or is that too much and or better to get Mark 3?

Depends on the model and spec.
Titanium rolhoff disc version= yes
There are several birdie models.
Called different names in different countries and tend to have different specs. Unless this has changed last few years.
The monocoque frame is avialable in any mark except the mk1.
Hubs vary. IHG, rear mech,or dual drive
Racks vary, touring, sport or city types. Vary from no racks to front and back panniers.
Brakes are disc or V brakes on all but mk1 afaik.
£1500 reguardless sounds cheap.

The specs of the Mark 2 Birdy I am interested in is this:

• Frame: BIRDY Monocoque
• Fork: BIRDY spring suspension
• Color: Scotch Brite + Coating Black
• Head Sets: AL-2 1-1/8" H:27.5mm A-head type
• BB Parts: 68/113mm steel axle
• Seat Post: BIRDY AL7075 34.9x570mm black anodized w/ laser scale
• Tire: Maxxis BIRDY 18x1.5" 90psi kevlar inside w/reflective sidewall
• Rim: Alex DA16 w/ ground side walls & indicator 24H
• Hub: F- BIRDY 24H / R: Shimano Alivio 36H
• Chainwheel: BIRDY 56T w/ double chainguard
• Freewheel: Shimano CS-HG50 9speed 11~32T
• Derailleur: Shimano Alivio 9 speed
• Shifter: Shimano Alivio 9speed right only
• Saddle: Velo VL-3023 black
• Pedal: VP-197 silver cage w/BS reflectors
• Handlebar: AL2014 520mm black anodized
• Stem: BIRDY adjustable stme 10degree
• Brake: Avid SD5 V-brake
• Brake Lever: Avid FR5 for V-brake
• Accessory: Bell
• Suspension Unit: Red PU
• Dimensions Folded (HxWxL): 23.6" x 15.4" x 28.3" (60cm x 39cm x 72cm)
• Weight (w/o pedal): 24 lbs (10.9kg)

Is $1,500 a good deal for that bike? Or is this $1,850 Mark 3 Birdy better and worth the extra money over the Mark 2? http://www.nycewheels.com/birdy-stan...ding-bike.html . Also Birdys are pretty fast? I know it mostly depends on the rider and how much effort is put in but just curious if it can go fast compared to other folding bikes

One more thing, what are the difference between Mark 2/3 9 Speed Birdy and the New Classic?

• Frame: BIRDY Classic
• Fork: BIRDY spring suspension
• Color: Blue
• Head Sets: FSA NO.10 Internal type
• BB Parts: 68/122.5mm steel axle
• Seat Post: BIRDY AL7075 34.9x570mm black anodized w/ laser scale
• Tire: Maxxis BIRDY 18x1.5" 90psi kevlar inside w/reflective sidewall
• Rim: Alex DV15 w/ ground side walls & indicator 24H
• Hub: F- BIRDY 24H / R- Shimano 8speed 36H
• Chainwheel: BIRDY 52T w/ double chainguard
• CG Freewheel: Shimano CS-HG41 8speed 11~32T
• Derailleur: Shimano Acera 8speed
• Shifter: Shimano Acera 8speed right only
• Saddle: Velo VL-312-2 black
• Pedal: VP-199A silver cage w/BS reflectors
• Handlebar: AL6061 520mm black anodized
• Stem: BIRDY standard stme 17degree
• Brake: Tektro 836AL V-brake
• Brake Lever: Tektro CL-330RS for V-brake
• Accessory: Bell
• Suspension Unit: Red PU
• Dimensions Folded (HxWxL): 24.4" x 13" x 28.3" (62cm x 33cm x 72cm)
• Weight: (w/o pedal) 24 lbs. (10.9kg)

You can try to post your questions the Facebook Pacific Cycles Birdy group.

BIRDY Mk3
http://www.pacific-cycles.com/images...52dd90758b.jpg

New Classic BIRDY
http://www.pacific-cycles.com/images...45b9dd4013.jpg

Main differences:
1. Frame: New Classic BIRDY has round tube frame, same as the Mk1 BIRDY, but of course many improvements compared with the Mk1 model. The New Classic BIRDY was introduced in 2014 as a special edition for BIRDY's 20th anniversary. New BIRDY (Mk2/3) has monocoque frame which looks more aesthetic, but of course more expensive than classic model.

2. Price: In Asia (especially Taiwan) many users consider the New Classic BIRDY as entry level model, so if you don't have much budget then New Classic BIRDY would be the best choice.

3. Specs: I think you can find it all on Pacific website.

I happen to have both models (actually New Classic for my wife T^T) and I have to say the New Classic is a very very good deal!!

It sound reasonable value to me, but I come form UK and dont know the value of money and goods in your country.

$1,500 is 1176.61 British Pound according to google

One more question before I feel confident in buying the 9 speed MK3, for riders 5'5" or shorter, do you struggle to reach the bar? Do you have to extend your arm 100% out and lean to get a good handle on the bar which makes it very uncomfortable to ride? Or are you able to ride comfortable and don't need to extend your arms all the way out?

I am 5'6", no over-extension for the arms. Very comfortable and feels like a full big bike. The birdy is ideal for 5' upwards and besides the birdy stem is height adjustable.

I don't know much about bikes but lowering the stem height will make it move closer to me?

I get thirsty when I ride (mouth breather :(). How does one mount a water bottle to a birdy monocoque without making the fold more difficult of more bulky yet keeping the bottle conveniently at hand?

Your angle of riding position will change. The birdy has a selection of 10 degree and 25 degree stems. The 25 degree will of course give you a longer distance between the saddle and the handlebar. Go to the bike store and have a test ride if you can.

I can't, it's across the country. No one hear me has a MK3 which is what I want

There was someone who posted about their Birdies, his and his wife's, and how short she is opposite to him. To improve the reach for his wife's Birdy, he installed a stem backwards, ie pointing backwards, bringing the handlebars closer. So that tells me there is a point where "one size fits most" won't work. Just not sure what that point is; however, simple solutions exist.

Owner said the degree of the stem is 21 degrees. Are the stems adjustable or does the bike just use a different stem?

Did he ever say how tall his wife was?

I think so; a search on this forum may turn up that thread. He doesn't post here any more for years. I can't think of helpful search terms except birdy.

It was this same thread, see post 242. Name of JulianEdgar.

what is your opinion of Colorplus Birdies? birdy x COLORPLUS rainbow red limited edition | COLORPLUS, colorful your life!
A stock Birdy -> $2000, the same Birdy as "Colorplus" -> $5000
I do not think they make so many improvements to justify that price

Way over the top, yet people pay. Only money I guess.... :lol:

Maybe someone can help to explain or give some insights about the front and rear suspensions of the Birdy made by Colorplus and Multi-S in comparison to the original stock front and rear suspensions of the Birdy. What are the advantages of these custom-made suspensions over the stock ones?

in overall peformance, it is better in a Birdy to have 20" wheels with light tires or the standard 18" wheels with more thick "baloon" tires?

I think a good after market suspension would be one lockable to be useful on and off road.