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Old 12-17-08, 12:08 PM
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Weirdest Folding Bike I've seen yet

Found a bike store in Okinawa I hadn't been to before and took my trusty camera with me. This thing folds up pretty small. Tall but thin. Don't think you could pay me to ride one but it was cool to look at.

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Link showing the fold

Here's the website. On the main page hit the "Carry Me" link. This particular bike is the carry all.

https://www.pacific-cycles.com/
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Pacific also produces a 2 speed version which is supposedly quite speedy.. although i don't know how practical it would be with wheels that tiny rolling over real world roads.
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paging makeinu and/or somnatash...
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Ooooooooh. They're not going to like their bike being called "weird"!
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Awwww... isn't it sooooo cute? It's like looking at a baby, or a puppy, or a kitten...

I like it!!!



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There is a two wheel version of this bike ("Carryme") and, as alluded to by Jur and SesameCrunch, there are a few of us around here who are big fans of it.

Personally I'm not interested in the three wheeler because I don't need a trike, but I imagine it has to be the lightest and smallest folding adult trike on the market. For more information search the forum for "Carryall".
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The gear ratio of Carryall is relatively low comparing with other tiny wheeled folders.

The gear ratio of Carryall:
https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...&cat2=7&pid=13
8*64/14 = 36.57 gear inches

The gear ratio of A-bike:
https://www.a-bike.co.uk/store/specification.php
6*(14*35)/(8*9) = 40.83 gear inches

The gear ratio of Handybike:
https://www.handybike.com/uk/technik.html
6*52/7 = 44.57 gear inches

The gear ratio of Zerobike:
https://www.zerobike.com/Desarrollos/...s%20ingles.htm
(3.69 meters = 145.28 inches)
145.28/π = 46.24 gear inces

The gear ratio of Carryme or CarryMe DS in low gear:
https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...&cat2=7&pid=11
8*84/14 = 48 gear inches

The gear ratio of Carryme DS in high gear:
https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...&cat2=7&pid=12
8*84*1.65/14 = 79.2 gear inches

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Weird or Anorectic? The European folding tandem that was hinged to fold like a DaHon but folded in a Z-pattern was weird for me.
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How fast could you corner on this thing without falling over? I guess it depends on how tall the rider is, but it looks pretty narrow to me.

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The Carryall's gear ratio is actually comparable to that of full sized trikes. My friend's Trifecta 20" adult trike manufactured by Worksman Bike, has a similar gear ratio. Ironically, the Trifect is a folding tricycle.

Adult trikes whether as tiny as the Carryall, or as big as a full size, are meant to be ridden at slow casual speeds, and be very easy to pedal. I can only imagine that the Carryall with it's low weight, and gear ratio, is almost completely effortless to pedal.

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The gear ratio of Carryall is relatively low comparing with other tiny wheeled folders.

The gear ratio of Carryall:
https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...&cat2=7&pid=13
8*64/14 = 36.57 gear inches

The gear ratio of A-bike:
https://www.a-bike.co.uk/store/specification.php
6*(14*35)/(8*9) = 40.83 gear inches

The gear ratio of Handybike:
https://www.handybike.com/uk/technik.html
6*52/7 = 44.57 gear inches

The gear ratio of Zerobike:
https://www.zerobike.com/Desarrollos/...s%20ingles.htm
(3.69 meters = 145.28 inches)
145.28/π = 46.24 gear inces

The gear ratio of Carryme or CarryMe DS in low gear:
https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...&cat2=7&pid=11
8*84/14 = 48 gear inches

The gear ratio of Carryme DS in high gear:
https://www.pacific-cycles.com/produc...&cat2=7&pid=12
8*84*1.65/14 = 79.2 gear inches
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Originally Posted by edwong3
The Carryall's gear ratio is actually comparable to that of full sized trikes. My friend's Trifecta 20" adult trike manufactured by Worksman Bike, has a similar gear ratio. Ironically, the Trifect is a folding tricycle.

Adult trikes whether as tiny as the Carryall, or as big as a full size, are meant to be ridden at slow casual speeds, and be very easy to pedal. I can only imagine that the Carryall with it's low weight, and gear ratio, is almost completely effortless to pedal.

Edward
Thanks Edward!

I found that the Diblasi folding tricycle provide a wide range of gear ratios from 30 to 60 gear inches.
https://www.diblasi.it/TabellaCompara...icycles&Lng=en

If a Carryall is equiped with a speed-drive just like CarryMe DS, it can provide a wider range of gear ratios from 36.57 to 60.34 gear inches.

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Yes Amuro, there are tricycles with multiple gears. The most common are the three speed internal hubs, but I've also seen derailleur based drive trains too, mainly 5-6 speed. The drive system in the CarryMe DS is a two speed, so it's either the cruising gear (lower ratio), or a very high overdrive...no in between gears at all.

Adult tricycles are fun to ride, though I've never tried a CarryAll. It's a difference experience

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Thanks Edward!

I found that the Diblasi folding tricycle provide a wide range of gear ratios from 30 to 60 gear inches.
https://www.diblasi.it/TabellaCompara...icycles&Lng=en

If a Carryall is equiped with a speed-drive just like CarryMe DS, it can provide a wider range of gear ratios from 36.57 to 60.34 gear inches.
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Originally Posted by edwong3
Yes Amuro, there are tricycles with multiple gears. The most common are the three speed internal hubs, but I've also seen derailleur based drive trains too, mainly 5-6 speed. The drive system in the CarryMe DS is a two speed, so it's either the cruising gear (lower ratio), or a very high overdrive...no in between gears at all.

Adult tricycles are fun to ride, though I've never tried a CarryAll. It's a difference experience

Edward
Thanks Edward!
I hope that I'll get a chance to try one.

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Originally Posted by khearn
How fast could you corner on this thing without falling over? I guess it depends on how tall the rider is, but it looks pretty narrow to me...
Before "quad-motorcycles" came out, my brother-in-law used "motor-trikes" in his farm as utility vehicles. One was 80cc and the other was 200cc, both auto-clutches and both fast. The faster I cornered, the more I encountered stronger resistance to turning - no matter how hard to leaned over. It's like having a tug-o-war with this pig of a thing. Toppling over while cornering became its safety issue, which is why they were eventually phased-out from the marketplace.

However, during that time my brother-in-law had taught me the correct way to turn a trike at speed. It's the most bizarre and unnatural feeling I've ever had on a bike, but it works... even while accelerating! What you do is tip the trike onto two wheels and ride it like a bicycle. Get this... you tip the trike the opposite to what you would expect, inside (left) rear wheel up - when turning left! You still have to lean over to the left though, or you face plant over to the right (then the trike lands on top of you ).

The way to learn is to teach yourself to tip one of the rear wheels up and ride (or coast) the trike in a straight path, before attempting your first corner.

I'm sure this technique will work on the Pacific CarryMe, but probably not while pedalling... and with such little wheels, it'll probably disintegrate the bearings.

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