Hello
can anyone recommend me a better kickstand for a NWT,its goes on my nervs every time the bike fall when is just loaded with a ortlieb handle bar
Thanks

Does the kickstand have the right length for the bike? The one that came with my NWT was too long (BF did not grind it enough) so the bike did not have enough tilt to be stable. I ground it myself to shorten it and the bike is more stable now.

Kam

Most -- if not all -- kickstands can be cut to fit the NWT. That is, shortened to accomodate the 20" wheels.

https://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1034

Kamtsa
how do I know if the kickstand have the right length for my bike?
Thanks

https://www.thorusa.com/dahon/accessories/pletscher.htm

might wanna check out some of these ...
:-)

Thanks Thor

Place the bike on a flat surface and push the bike slightly to the right and the left and see if it easily loses its balance. Before I shorten my kickstand, a slight wind would drop it to the right (the opposite side of the kickstand) so I shortened it to tilt it more to the left.

I see that Thor has adjustable kickstands (though I can't figure out from the picture how the adjustments are made). This may be a good way to experiment with different lengths.

Kam

This is a question about more than the kickstand in my opinion. I have started putting a spring going from the fender mount bolt on the front fork to somewhere on the downtube (or similar) on my bikes, especially the utility/touring bikes. On some of my older folders (from the 70`s) the spring is there from the factory. This spring was quite common on older utility type bikes, and I see some newer "Dutch type bikes" has got them. I also remember this being dicussed in the utility forums some time back, and somebody came up with a link to a place to buy it.

I find it can easely be made using an old spoke to make a S hook in each end and cut rubber rings from an old tube. Add as many as you need to get the strenght you need in the "spring". Can be fastened to downtube with a piece of steel band (like the plumbers use) innside a piece of an old tube.

I also often use a two legged kickstand on front loaded bikes.

In the touring forums I also remember peopel using two kickstands on loaded bikes. One mounted in the crank area, one near the rear axel, like on most MTB`s.

Also I think the angel of the kockstand is important, not just the length. If the leg hits the ground too close to the bike it is going to fall over faster than if the leg hits the ground further away from the bike.

A small bag mounted to the bars is quite high up and can therefor give you a lot of troubbel. One of many reasons why I want front racks on the folders.

Hi guys
thanks for all the answers
Regards