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Does your folder has a kickstand?

Old 07-05-09, 10:29 PM
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Does your folder has a kickstand?

I am looking for ways to reducer the weight of my NWT and removing the kickstand is one of the options. I wonder what other people are doing kickstand wise.

Does your folder has a kickstand? If not, is it because you bike can stand up even without a kickstand (e.g. Brompton)?

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Old 07-05-09, 10:34 PM
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I use it. necessary for loading up 15kg or so of groceries.
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Old 07-05-09, 11:20 PM
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i have it on all my folders. i tried removing it and it's quite a hassle not having it so i put them back on.
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Old 07-05-09, 11:44 PM
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My bikes have always had a kickstand. Can't imagine not having one.

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Old 07-05-09, 11:51 PM
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After I took the kickstand off of my Mu Uno and weighed it, I whacked myself on the head wondering what I was doing and promptly put it back on.. the convenience far out shines the few grams that it weighs ..
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Old 07-06-09, 12:24 AM
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Haha, I took the one on my Dahon Mu C9 off because if I need to put it somewhere, it would be folded anyway. Ruins the look on the bike, too.
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Old 07-06-09, 01:58 AM
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I have a Brompton so no need for a kickstand.

The 1963 Moulton I bought recently came with a kickstand but that was swiftly removed
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Old 07-06-09, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceMetras View Post
. the convenience far out shines the few grams that it weighs ..
I agree.

As I never ride my Downtube IXFS, I'm donating it to my sister, so have fitted a kickstand to that. I had to extend it a couple of inches, but as it's mounted higher up, it's more stable than the usual low down position anyway.

There's one on my recumbent too, also very convenient, for (un)loading, brief stops etc..

Riding in areas which are often wet, & sometimes muddy, laying a bike down isn't a very good choice.

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Old 07-06-09, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BruceMetras View Post
After I took the kickstand off of my Mu Uno and weighed it, I whacked myself on the head wondering what I was doing and promptly put it back on.. the convenience far out shines the few grams that it weighs ..
I removed the kickstand from my Mu Sport as I figured it to be useless for me. Plus the kickstand gets in the way of the handlepost when folded (inside fold with telescoping handlepost full down). When I put the bike anywhere, I also usually lock it on to something, so just lean it against that. In some hurried situation I rotate the pedal back in position against, e.g., a curb. Holds up as well as a kickstand. Otherwise I usually just put in in "fold stage 1", just fold it in half by a 180 fork rotation bringing handlebar and seat together, then it stands balanced on a pedal plus a wheel. This is neat and also serves partially as a theft insurance. Also this is the best fold to wheel the bike around. This fold stage just takes 1 sec. In the subway I usually quick fold it around a pole. "Fold stage 2" includes folding the handlepost and standard fold the bike in half (takes ~4 secs), then it stands as a tripod, again using one pedal as a stand (and the seat as a wheeling handle). This tripod is quite stable and also works in subways or trains (without a pole). I also use this when I enter a store, for example, to quickly buy something while putting the bike aside in a corner. You can slide in the seatpost as well (full fold) but this mostly is not needed.

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Old 07-06-09, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by pibach View Post
......... In some hurried situation I rotate the pedal back in position against a curb. Holds up as well as a kickstand.

Otherwise I usually just put in in "fold stage 1", just fold it in half by a 180 rotation bringing handlebar and seat together, then it stands on a pedal plus a wheel. This is neat and also serves partially as a theft insurance. Also best fold to wheel the bike around. This fold stage just takes 1 sec. In the subway I usually quick fold it around a pole. "Fold stage 2" includes folding the handlepost and fold the bike in half (takes ~4 secs), then it stands as a tripod, again using one pedal as a stand (and the seat as a wheeling handle). This tripod is quite stable and also works in subways or trains (without a pole). ........
Yes, I've done that too, but there's often 30 kph + winds here, so that's weather dependent!


Good idea!

Re' "theft deterrent", on a couple of bikes I now have one pedal a MKS with removable coupler, so I take off that pedal, & put it in my bag whilst I nip into the building.

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Old 07-06-09, 05:44 AM
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On my SWBs I have stands, hey, I figure I already look dorky enough so why not add that extra dorkiness of a kickstand??!! But seriously, for touring and shopping I wouldn't be without one.
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Old 07-06-09, 11:56 AM
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I use my kickstand every day; I wouldn't be without it.
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Old 07-06-09, 02:27 PM
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Normally they have kickstands on them - it's just easier when they are stored in the garage and when riding locally.

However, I will likely remove the cable lock holder and the kickstands before we do our next 30-40 mile ride, simply to reduce the weight we have to propel forward. They come off and go back on very easily.

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Old 07-06-09, 07:55 PM
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I've got one on my Jack right now (might switch it to a two-legged stand eventually), but not on my Speed D7 (temporarily, just to see how it works out, it'll probably go back on at some point).
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Old 07-06-09, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceMetras View Post
the convenience far out shines the few grams that it weighs ..
+1. It's far too useful to worry about the weight.
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Old 07-06-09, 11:38 PM
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I started today an experiment of not using the kickstand of my NWT. If it will go well for few weeks, I will remove it completely.

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Old 07-07-09, 01:56 AM
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I put kickstands on all my bikes, folding and non-folding, that didn't have one. I also put a golf ball into the end, for soft surfaces like sand. An aluminum alloy stand does not weigh enough to worry about. I figure it looks more "dorky" to lay a bike on the ground than riding a bike with one.
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Old 07-07-09, 08:49 AM
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Here is a picture from my non kickstand experiment. A kickstand free photo op at sunset.
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Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
Here is a picture from my non kickstand experiment. A kickstand free photo op at sunset.
That is one nice photo. Says all that needs to be said about getting out on your bike!
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Old 07-07-09, 02:11 PM
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Other. I have a kickstand for my folder, but it's still in the box. I've never mounted it. If I do a long tour on it (BF NWT) I'll mount it before the tour.

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Originally Posted by Paul Braithwait View Post
That is one nice photo. Says all that needs to be said about getting out on your bike!
I always found it more satisfying to bike near bodies of water. I am not sure why.

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Old 07-07-09, 02:53 PM
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I checked "Other" because I'm between kickstands. My Tote/Cycle came with a kickstand, but the kickstand/plate combination never seemed too steady, and I was always retightening it. I found a kickstand at our co-op that connected to the rear axle. That was not a perfect fit, but much better than the old kickstand until the day I forgot to put it up and it got all bent up the first time I leaned to the left. Oops. I'm reluctant to go back to my original, but I hate not having one, so I'm looking for one that attaches to the rear triangle somehow.

I have a Raleigh 20 that has an attached kickstand, I think (it's new (to me, obviously)), and my full-sized bike has a double-legged kickstand.

I try to listen to the anti-kickstand side and do without, but every time I take my Tote/Cycle out, I ended up missing that kickstand. It's just not natural to me to be without one.
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Old 07-07-09, 03:54 PM
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... so I'm looking for one that attaches to the rear triangle somehow.
Is this is what you are looking for?

http://www.rei.com/product/724326



For some time I consider to move to a rear kickstand since the stock kickstand interferes with the pedals when standing.

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No kickstand. Might want one if I was doing serious touring, but not for the riding I do.
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Old 07-08-09, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by kamtsa View Post
Is this is what you are looking for?

http://www.rei.com/product/724326

For some time I consider to move to a rear kickstand since the stock kickstand interferes with the pedals when standing.

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Thanks, yeah, that's similar to what I'm looking for, except that appears to be for 26" and up, and I need 20", but the same concept. The other thing that concerns me is that it doesn't look like it has any adjustability in the mounting. My rear triangle is a little fatter than some, so I'm hoping to find one that's not perfectly molded to a standard rear triangle. Pletscher has one that look like it might fit the bill, the Pletscher REAR Multi ZOOM. I'll probably be trying one of them out, soon.
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