Bikesdirect Mini Velo upgrade thread
#551
The width would kill it. The Soma doesn't have the room in the frame or fork for fat tires. That plus the canti's and barcons are why I didn't pull the trigger. I've looked at the Nano a few times,but comparing the geo chart to my Qualifier,I think it would take a bunch of mods to get it to fit right,and I've already got projects stacked up. But at least I've got my Hooligans.
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#552
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The width would kill it. The Soma doesn't have the room in the frame or fork for fat tires. That plus the canti's and barcons are why I didn't pull the trigger. I've looked at the Nano a few times,but comparing the geo chart to my Qualifier,I think it would take a bunch of mods to get it to fit right,and I've already got projects stacked up. But at least I've got my Hooligans.
smallwheeler yea it has nothing to do with rationality. I am the type who is not afraid to paint myself into a corner in the pursuit of what I want and I take risks that don't always work out. I am also willing to take a cheap bike and dump way too much money into it if I think it has potential. I really wanted a Hooligan but when I rode one and I really didn't like it, the geometry just didn't suit me, eventually I found my Origin8 Bully(a $315 sorta cheapy bike) and I loved it from day one. I thought it could become a great bike and $1300 dollars worth of trial and error later it is the best bike I have ever owned and you couldn't convince me to part with it. Now you could argue with me all day that the hooligan was a better quality bike and a better value but if I didn't like it whats the point, I think for some it is similar with the nano but to each his own.
P.S. I really want the soma but the Bully bankrupted me for the next year.........No More Bikes right now!!!
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#553
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Bikes: Vilano Urbana, DownTube FS9, Montaque paratrooper, Nano mini-velo, Motobecane CX, Raleigh 20, MIFA folder, ROG Pony, Iverson Grand Touring folder, Exclusiv German folder
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Hi
fellows
I been reading this post amazing what all of you have done,so now I also wants to get one mercier.I am not sure which side I need,I am 1,70cm,inside legs 76cm.I wass looking at my others bikes like my touring bike the top tube is 55cm (the frame is hand make going down like a mountain bike) my bike friday nwt the main tube is 53cm,and the bike I use for ride to work a road bike(I made modifications) the top tube is 52cm.And can you use wider tires like 2x1,75 schwalbe marathon puncture resistens
Thanks
fellows
I been reading this post amazing what all of you have done,so now I also wants to get one mercier.I am not sure which side I need,I am 1,70cm,inside legs 76cm.I wass looking at my others bikes like my touring bike the top tube is 55cm (the frame is hand make going down like a mountain bike) my bike friday nwt the main tube is 53cm,and the bike I use for ride to work a road bike(I made modifications) the top tube is 52cm.And can you use wider tires like 2x1,75 schwalbe marathon puncture resistens
Thanks
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Hi
fellows
I been reading this post amazing what all of you have done,so now I also wants to get one mercier.I am not sure which side I need,I am 1,70cm,inside legs 76cm.I wass looking at my others bikes like my touring bike the top tube is 55cm (the frame is hand make going down like a mountain bike) my bike friday nwt the main tube is 53cm,and the bike I use for ride to work a road bike(I made modifications) the top tube is 52cm.And can you use wider tires like 2x1,75 schwalbe marathon puncture resistens
Thanks
fellows
I been reading this post amazing what all of you have done,so now I also wants to get one mercier.I am not sure which side I need,I am 1,70cm,inside legs 76cm.I wass looking at my others bikes like my touring bike the top tube is 55cm (the frame is hand make going down like a mountain bike) my bike friday nwt the main tube is 53cm,and the bike I use for ride to work a road bike(I made modifications) the top tube is 52cm.And can you use wider tires like 2x1,75 schwalbe marathon puncture resistens
Thanks
Yes, 20x1.75 tires will fit.
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Yes, I'm 1.8m (6'), so probably the perspective of someone closer to your 5'5" height would be better, but I can certainly understand how a 53cm frame would seem large to you. If I had the same height ratio with any of my bikes, I'd think they were huge! Maybe the smaller size is better, and you can do as many of us have done, what Poguemahone calls going "up and out," with tall seat posts and long, high rise stems. It will probably make the bike feel sportier, more toss-able, and more fun.
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Bikes: Fuji Comp 29r, Downtube, Tommi Sea fat bike, Nashbar SS 29r half-fat, Full suspension mini-velo/MTB, Loopwheel M-Velo
1.7m: just a hair under 5'7", with a 30" inseam(76)
1.8m: just under 5'11"
You're 1.828 at 6'. Not trying to be nit-picky, but there's a 4" spread with tenth m's, so decimals are important.
1.8m: just under 5'11"
You're 1.828 at 6'. Not trying to be nit-picky, but there's a 4" spread with tenth m's, so decimals are important.
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Here's their geometry chart, showing standover height & other pertinent info.. With the 53, you'd have less than an inch of standover clearance. Probably better off with the 48.
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...geo_chart.html
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...geo_chart.html
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Yes, quite pedantic, since the accurate heights for both of us were stated, and the point of the post was proportionality. That 6' is 1.82m rather than 1.8 makes no difference to the point.
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I used Velox 16mm cloth, so the 15mm you're looking at should be fine. All it needs to do is cover the nipple heads.
Please be sure to replace the innertubes and stock up a couple back, as the original tubes are very low grade, and 20" prestas pretty scarce in most parts of the world. At one time I called 6 bike shops, and none stocked that tube, so I special ordered a couple to keep at home, plus one on the bike. The stock tubes I would not even keep as spares; just pitch 'em in rubbish.
Please be sure to replace the innertubes and stock up a couple back, as the original tubes are very low grade, and 20" prestas pretty scarce in most parts of the world. At one time I called 6 bike shops, and none stocked that tube, so I special ordered a couple to keep at home, plus one on the bike. The stock tubes I would not even keep as spares; just pitch 'em in rubbish.
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#567
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Bikes: Custom Mongoose Beast, Ratted 26" Huffy, Alton Mini Velo, 58 Schwinn Wasp & Puch moped (Bobbed)
Here is my Alton Corsa 7 Speed Mini Velo that I picked up a couple months ago.

Modes done.
Innova Mini Velo 20" Tire(406/20 x 1.35)
Fenders (customized to fit)
Leather Saddle
Biltwell Inc. Kung Fu Grips
M-Wave Mini Front Pannier Bag Bicycle Rack (Black) modified to work on the back.
Reflective rim tape and decals.
Soon it will have a 53T/39T chainring and derailleur

Modes done.
Innova Mini Velo 20" Tire(406/20 x 1.35)
Fenders (customized to fit)
Leather Saddle
Biltwell Inc. Kung Fu Grips
M-Wave Mini Front Pannier Bag Bicycle Rack (Black) modified to work on the back.
Reflective rim tape and decals.
Soon it will have a 53T/39T chainring and derailleur
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Interesting setup; the rack was quite clever and sane. Seeing the UoM magnet on the fridge, are you rolling that here in A2?
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Ok I changed out the chainring (53T/39T), but still waiting on the shifter to install the front derailleur.

Does the chain length look right in these two pictures (Top on the large chainring and smallest cog, Bottom on largest chainring and largest cog). The reason I ask is because this is the original chain which when I measured around both of the biggest gears it looked to be two links longer as it should measure.

Chain on smallest chainring and smallest cog.

Before (old chainring 48T)

After (new chainring 53T/39T)

Does the chain length look right in these two pictures (Top on the large chainring and smallest cog, Bottom on largest chainring and largest cog). The reason I ask is because this is the original chain which when I measured around both of the biggest gears it looked to be two links longer as it should measure.

Chain on smallest chainring and smallest cog.

Before (old chainring 48T)

After (new chainring 53T/39T)
#572
Chain looks fine.
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Bikes: Custom Mongoose Beast, Ratted 26" Huffy, Alton Mini Velo, 58 Schwinn Wasp & Puch moped (Bobbed)
Ran into a couple issues with the front derailleur when I went to do the final install. First thing was I bought the wrong one (3 ring), should of got a double ring one. The next was I couldn't get it to shift into high (outside ring) gear. Turns out my BB spindle was to long. I was able to fix it by flipping the spindle around which pull the chainring in enough so it would shift into high gear. Still need it a little shorter because I get a little bit of chain rub in the highest gear setting (large ring & smallest cog).




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Thank you





